Friday, June 26, 2015
The Church is necessary for salvation. We agree here. But LG 16 is an exception to EENS for the MICM?
Massive pre-Columbians do not exist today. We also cannot say that they are in Heaven. Nor that they are exceptions to the dogma today.
It is often said that the pagans who lived in the America's before Columbus went there were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
How can we say they are exceptions to the dogma today? These were cases in the past.They cannot be exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church today.
Neither can we say that they are in Heaven without the baptism of water. We do not know. We cannot judge. The dogma and Vatican Council II tells us that the ordinary means of salvation is the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.According to Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14) they did not have faith and baptism and so did not have salvation.
@radtrad For you and me every one needs to formally enter the Church for salvation TODAY. Massive pre-Columbians do not exist TODAY.
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