Friday, July 20, 2012

SSPX, ECCLESIA DEI ASK THE PAULIST FATHERS AND THE CHURCH OF SANTA SUSSANA ROME TO AFFIRM VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH CITATIONS

Father Gregory Apparcel the Rector of the Church of Santa Sussana Rome has in a homily said that he rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since Vatican Council II contradicts it.

Father Greg an American Paulist Father assumes Vatican Council II mentions explicit exceptions to the dogma on salvation.

The Paulist Fathers also believe that since there are explicit exceptions, the Church teaches a ‘theology of religions’.

In inter- religious dialogue they say the focus must be on God the Father even if it excludes Jesus according to their website.This is the result of their interpretation and acceptance of Vatican Council II.

The SSPX affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and is supported by Vatican Council II (AG 7). LG 16 on invincible ignorance and a good conscience does not contradict the dogma since we do not personally know any of these cases saved. So LG 16 cannot be cited by the Paulist Fathers to reject the dogma.

Since Ad Gentes 7 says all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation this is a rejection by Vatican Council II of ‘the theology of religions’.

The Paulist Fathers need to be asked to provide citations from Vatican Council II to support their liberal and heretical doctrinal positions and the claim that they accept Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades

PAULISTS FATHERS’ ORDINATION OF PRIESTS CONSIDERED ‘LICIT’

ECCLESIA DEI WHY DOES THE SSPX HAVE TO ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II, THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHILE THE PAULIST FATHERS ARE EXEMPTED ?

SSPX LINKS VATICAN COUNCIL II AND MAGISTERIUM TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

For the SSPX Vatican Council II can be interpreted according to the uninterrupted Magisterium, the Magisterium texts which contradict the liberal version of the Council and the uninterrupted Magisterium which is in agreement with Tradition expressed in the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 


Affirms faith in the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

For this reason it seems opportune that we reaffirm our faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the unique Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation; our faith in its monarchical constitution, desired by Our Lord Himself, by which the supreme power of government over the universal Church belongs only to the Pope, Vicar of Christ on earth; our faith in the universal Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ, Creator of both the natural and the supernatural orders, to Whom every man and every society must submit.-Society of St. Pius X General Chapter Statementhttp://www.dici.org/en/news/society-of-st-pius-x-general-chapter-statement/


Affirms the Magisterium Texts and Tradition

The Society continues to uphold the declarations and the teachings of the constant Magisterium of the Church in regard to all the novelties of the Second Vatican Council which remain tainted with errors, and also in regard to the reforms issued from it. We find our sure guide in this uninterrupted Magisterium which, by its teaching authority, transmits the revealed Deposit of Faith in perfect harmony with the truths that the entire Church has professed, always and everywhere.

Magisterium texts contradict liberal version of Vatican Council II with novelties

The Society continues to uphold the declarations and the teachings of the constant Magisterium of the Church in regard to all the novelties of the Second Vatican Council which remain tainted with errors, and also in regard to the reforms issued from it. We find our sure guide in this uninterrupted Magisterium which, by its teaching authority, transmits the revealed Deposit of Faith in perfect harmony with the truths that the entire Church has professed, always and everywhere.

Uninterrupted Magisterial texts apply to Vatican Council II.

We find our sure guide in this uninterrupted Magisterium which, by its teaching authority, transmits the revealed Deposit of Faith in perfect harmony with the truths that the entire Church has professed, always and everywhere.
-Lionel Andrades

SSPX COMMUNIQUE IMPORTANT FOR THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BOSTON AND THE FR.LEONARD FEENEY CASE

The Society of St.Pius X  communiqué is important for the Archdiocese of Boston which seems to be in a cover up of the Fr.Leonard Feeney case. The SSPX affirms the ‘rigorist interpretation’ of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus . It was Fr.Leonard Feeney who also affirmed the literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation and said there were no known exceptions. There were no explicit exceptions.

The SSPX realizes that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are always unknown to us and so they cannot be an exception to the traditional interpretation of the dogma. This is the same position as the priest from Boston.

It was the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Richard Cushing who came out with a theory of the explicitly known baptism of desire etc which were supposed to be exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

Presently there are two questions being asked of the Archdiocese of Boston and no one is answering them.

They perhaps know that if they answer those two questions it would result in the truth being known about the Fr.Leonard Feeney case. He was wrongly deprived of his priestly faculties for affirming the traditional teaching on the dogma and then he was excommunicated.

He and other Catholic professors were dismissed from Boston College because of their traditional Catholic views on outside the church no salvation.

Even until today the secular media refers to the baptism of desire being an exception and they claim  Fr. Leonard Feeney is in heresy..

The SSPX  communiqué has reaffirmed  faith in the Catholic Church and the dogma and also clarified that there is no ‘… possibility to find the means leading to salvation’ outside the Church.

They are saying like Vatican Council II that all non Catholics need to enter the Church with Catholics Faith and the baptism of water for salvation and there are no known exceptions; Lumen Gentium 16 and Lumen Gentium 8 are not explicit exceptions to the dogma and neither are they exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.-Lionel Andrades

‘…nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation’ is the all important line in the SSPX communiqué

The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) has in the past been affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus but at the same time would say invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are exceptions. This was the confusion in their doctrinal position.

So they were not in agreement with tradition (how can the dogma have explicit exceptions?) and neither were they in accord with Vatican Council II.

Now  their communiqué  has reaffirmed their faith in the Catholic Church and the dogma and also clarified that there is no‘… possibility to find the means leading to salvation’ outside the Church.

They are saying like Vatican Council II that all non Catholics need to enter the Church with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation and there are no known exceptions (1) ; Lumen Gentium 16 and Lumen Gentium 8 are not explicit exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation and neither are they exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.

In the liberal version of Vatican Council II, which the SSPX rejects in the communiqué, LG 16 and LG 8 are considered explicit and known to us. Hence they presume that  LG 16 and LG 8 contradict AG 7 and the dogma defined three times (2).

With the SSPX clarification the liberals cannot cite LG 16 or LG 8 as exceptions to the interpretation of the salvation dogma. They do not any more have citations from Vatican Council II.So there intrpretation is not one of continuity but a rupture.

The SSPX can cite AG 7 supporting their view of Vatican Council II and there are no exceptions in the Council texts.

There is only one interpretation of Vatican Council II with citations and it is the SSPX one. It has the hermeneutic of continuity-Lionel Andrades

1.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II