Thursday, February 15, 2018
HERETICS ON PARADE -Michael Voris
https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-heretics-on-parade
The baptism of blood could never be an exception to EENS. Since it is known only to God and is a hypothetical case for us. It cannot be seen in the present times to be an exception.
Comment:
Catholic Dictionary
Term
BAPTISM OF BLOOD
Definition
Martyrdom in the case of a person who died for the Christian faith before he or she could receive the sacrament. The effects of martyrdom of blood are the complete remission of sin and the title to immediate entrance into heaven. The expression entered the Christian vocabulary during the first three centuries when many catechumens awaiting baptism and pagans suddenly converted to the Christian faith were martyred before they could receive formal baptism of water.
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=32084
Lionel:
Yes I accept this.
Of course for you and me this would today be a hypothetical case.
Something that happened in the past and if it happens today it would only be known to God.
So when the popes and saints referred to it, it was with goodwill and speculation, since as human beings we can only hope in faith.When answering questions, the popes and the saints knew that finally it would only be God who would know.
So when the popes spoke about this subject, when asked about extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), they were not referring to an exception to EENS.
It could never be an exception. Since a hypothetical case is not known in the present times to be an exception.
It was the liberal theologians who referred to the baptism of blood(Baltimore Catechism) and they being exceptions to EENS(Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston).
They mixed up what was invisible as being visible, what was unknown as being known.
Then they concluded that there was known salvation outside the Church, so outside the Church there was salvation for them.
This was the error the liberal theolgians repeated at Vatican Council II and Pope Benedict XVI supported it in March 2016(Avvenire) when he said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century, with there being salvation outside the Church.So where was there a need for Mission he asked, wrongly suggesting that Vatican Council II indicated them.For him there was ' a development' with Vatican Council II with his New Theology, Cushingite Theology.he interpreted hypothetical cases(LG 16, UR 3 etc) as being known persons.Invisible cases of the baptism of desire(LG 14) and invincible ignorance(LG 16) were mistaken as being visible.This is now official.It is magisterial heresy and changes the interpretation of the Nicene Creed too.
Reinterpret Vatican Council II with these four links
When these terms and principles are understood especially in the first (1) link, you can re-interpret Vatican Council II.
Once you understand the main points of these four links it should be easier to look at Vatican Council II differently.You can then apply the different premise and conclusion to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
1.
FEBRUARY 13, 2018
Once these terms and principles are understood you can re-interpret Vatican Council II.It would be unbelievable for most Catholics.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/once-these-terms-and-principles-are.html
2.
FEBRUARY 13, 2018
Understanding the Fr. Leonard Feeney case helps in the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of the present Cushingism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/understanding-fr-leonard-
feeney-case.html
FEBRUARY 13, 2018
Understanding the Fr. Leonard Feeney case helps in the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of the present Cushingism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/understanding-fr-leonard-
feeney-case.html
feeney-case.html
3.
FEBRUARY 13, 2018
When choosing to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism observe the philosophical mistakes in the Council text http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/when-choosing-to-interpret-vatican.html
4.
FEBRUARY 15, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office (1949) 1-5
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and_82.html
3.
FEBRUARY 13, 2018
When choosing to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism observe the philosophical mistakes in the Council text http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/when-choosing-to-interpret-vatican.html
FEBRUARY 15, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office (1949) 1-5
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and_82.html
-Lionel Andrades
POSTED BY CATHOLIC MISSION AT 2
1-5 : To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office (1949) 1-5
FEBRUARY 14, 2018
To re- interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feneeyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -1
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-reinterpret-vatican-council-ii-and.html
FEBRUARY 14, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 - 2
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/february-19-2015-contents-of-letter-of.html
FEBRUARY 14, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switich from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -3
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and.html
FEBRUARY 14, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -4
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/june-21-2014-catholic-religious.html
FEBRUARY 15, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -5
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and_15.html
-LionelAndrades
5- To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949
DECEMBER 10, 2014
SSPX has only to interpret Vatican Council II with the left hand side column and there is no break with their traditional beliefs on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/sspx-has-only-to-interpret-vatican.html
Cardinal Malcolm Ranjit expects the SSPX to reject the Syllabus of Errors as he does and then accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the irrational red column
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/cardinal-malcolm-ranjit-expects-sspx
NOVEMBER 29, 2014
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 error clearly carried over into Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/letter-of-holy-office-1949-error.html
SEPTEMBER 25, 2016
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 has heresy and upon this heresy so much of Vatican Council II is based.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/the-letter-of-holy-office-1949-has.html
If Salza-Siscoe admit something obvious like the baptism of desire case is not visible in 2016 then it would mean Abp.Lefebvre and Bp.Fellay made a factual error
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/if-salza-siscoe-admit-something-obvious.html
SEPTEMBER 24, 2016
CDF/ Ecclesia Dei would have to clarify that Cushingism from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 is heresy and that Feeneyism is Catholic orthodoxy http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/cdf-ecclesia-dei-would-have-to-clarify.html
FEBRUARY 7, 2014
Third Order members of the Franciscans of the Immaculate clarify Cardinal Braz and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi's position : all religious communities must accept implicit or explicit salvation http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/third-order-members-of-franciscans-of.html
Third Order members of the Franciscans of the Immaculate clarify Cardinal Braz and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi's position : all religious communities must accept implicit or explicit salvation http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/third-order-members-of-franciscans-of.html
OCTOBER 11, 2015
When will Fr. Sabino Ardito SDB make an announcement on the Franciscans of the Immaculate doctrinal issue ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/when-will-fr-sabino-ardito-sdb-make.html
JANUARY 29, 2015
Lay Catholics should contact the Auxiliary bishops of Rome : Vicariate teaches a falsehood http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/lay-catholics-should-contact-auxiliary.html
April 23-Sept.11,2014 - still no clarification from the SSPX
Bishop Bernard Fellay made a factual mistake in Letter to Friends and Benefactors no. 82 : we cannot see the deadhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/bishop-bernard-fellay-has-made-factual.html#links
Bishop Bernard Tisseur de Mallerais repeats the error of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvrehttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/bishop-bernard-tisseur-de-mallerais.html#links
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was doctrinally wrong his spiritual heirs must admit for a reconciliation with the truth
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/archbishop-marcel-lefebvre-was.html
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davies, Dietrich Von Hildebrand and other traditionalists allowed the Church to continue on a wrong theological way
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/archbishop-marcel-lefebvre-michael.html
This group of traditionalists instead of correcting the factual error of 1949 consolidated it and did not expose it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/this-group-of-traditionalists-instead.html
If Louie Verrecchio answers the two questions frankly he would be at odds with the SSPX http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/10/if-louie-verrecchio-answers-two.html
CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF
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How can zero cases of something be considered exceptions ?- John Martignoni
DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html
DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.htmlJANUARY 10, 2018
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson and Fr.Stefano Visintin osb say there are no known cases of the baptism of desire in our reality : contradict Pope Benedict http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-and.html
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson and Fr.Stefano Visintin osb say there are no known cases of the baptism of desire in our reality : contradict Pope Benedict http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-and.html
JANUARY 10, 2018
Pope Benedict needs to recant : his errors have spread throughout the Church.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/pope-benedict-needs-to-recant-his.html
JANUARY 27, 2018
Pope Benedict is misleading the lay movements and religious communities since he will not recant and correct his error. Even bishops and cardinals have to accept the doctrinal deception.: two columns
DECEMBER 20, 2017
I do not reject the baptism of desire like the traditionalists (Peter and Michael Dimond at MHFM) and neither do I accept the baptism of desire like the liberals(Cardinal Ladaria and Pope Benedict).Both groups use an irrational premise http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/i-do-not-reject-baptism-of-desire-like.html
March 2, 2017
Who am I (Lionel) and what do I believe in ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/who-am-i-lionel-and-what-do-i-believe.html
JANUARY 1, 2018
German bishops interpret Vatican Council II with philosophical error - possible schism ahead? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/german-bishops-interpret-vatican.html
JANUARY 1, 2018
There are philosophical mistakes in Vatican Council II, objective mistakes.Errors in empirical observation. From professors of philosophy to the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith and the two popes they are teaching a lie.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/there-are-philosophical-mistakes-in.html
Pastorally Pope John XXIII accepted exceptions to EENS and so traditional de fide teaching was rejected in 1962.This was the understanding of the cardinals and bishops too at Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/pastorally-pope-john-xxiii-accepted.html
OCTOBER 4, 2014
False conclusion from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 incorporated in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church now used by Cardinal Kaspar at the Synod of the Family
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/10/false-conclusion-from-letter-of-holy.html
OCTOBER 3, 2014
What is pathetic is that the SSPX makes the same mistake :Muller-Fellay Meeting http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/10/what-is-pathetic-is-that-sspx-makes.html
-Lionel Andrades
March 2, 2017
Who am I (Lionel) and what do I believe in ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/who-am-i-lionel-and-what-do-i-believe.html
JANUARY 1, 2018
German bishops interpret Vatican Council II with philosophical error - possible schism ahead? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/german-bishops-interpret-vatican.html
JANUARY 1, 2018
There are philosophical mistakes in Vatican Council II, objective mistakes.Errors in empirical observation. From professors of philosophy to the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith and the two popes they are teaching a lie.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/there-are-philosophical-mistakes-in.html
Pastorally Pope John XXIII accepted exceptions to EENS and so traditional de fide teaching was rejected in 1962.This was the understanding of the cardinals and bishops too at Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/pastorally-pope-john-xxiii-accepted.html
OCTOBER 4, 2014
False conclusion from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 incorporated in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church now used by Cardinal Kaspar at the Synod of the Family
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/10/false-conclusion-from-letter-of-holy.html
OCTOBER 3, 2014
What is pathetic is that the SSPX makes the same mistake :Muller-Fellay Meeting http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/10/what-is-pathetic-is-that-sspx-makes.html
-Lionel Andrades
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