Tuesday, January 20, 2015

John Martignoni is telling us something important about Vatican Council II

 John Martignoni , the apologist on EWTN, who is also a member of the Diocesan Staff of Bishop Robert J.Baker, in the Diocese of Birmingham in Alabama, where the offices of EWTN and the NCR are situated, contradicts the article written on the EWTN website (by the late Fr.William Most). He also contradicts the interview of Cardinal Gerhard Muller by Edward Pentin, placed on the Vatican website.He is  telling us something important about Vatican Council II.He does this when he says 'Zero cases of something are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus' .
Even Bishop Robert Baker would agree that zero cases of something are not exceptions. This is common knowledge.
It is also common knowledge that we cannot see the dead on earth.The bishop and John Martignoni would not be saying anything extraordinary.
So when Vatican Council II makes the following statement in Ad Gentes 7, it is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as interpreted by Fr.Leonard Feeney, the Church Councils, popes and saints.It refers to zero cases.
Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6)-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II 
It does not contradict the following  orthodox passage in Ad Gentes 7 which agrees with the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church.Those who are aware or are in inculpable ignorance do not contradict the necessity for all  in 2015 ,to be formal members of the Catholic Church,with 'faith and baptism', to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.
all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
There should not be confusion also with this line.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching..- Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
We do not know of any one who will be damned  in 2015 who did not convert, knowing about the the Church through its preaching.Neither do we know of  someone who will be saved  in incuplable ignorance and without the baptism of water and Catholic Faith. These lines refer to a possibility known only to God and this possibility could include receiving the baptism of water. However either way, with or without the baptism of water, this is a zero case for us.Being saved in inculpable ignorance or with implicit desire( baptism of desire) are zero cases for us.So they must not be considered exceptions.This was the objective  mistake in the Marchetti Letter.
-Lionel Andrades

January 19, 2015

National Catholic Register does not comment as Jimmy Akins, Mark Shea,Edward Pentin and Pat Archbold assume the baptism of desire ( a zero case for John Martignoni) is an exception to the dogma http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/national-catholic-register-does-not.html



Doctors Refused to Help Their Quintuplets Unless They Aborted, Now Their Girls Are Seven

by Sarah Zagorski | Moscow, Russia | LifeNews.com |

In 2007, Dimitri and Varvara Artamkin found they were expecting quintuplet girls after a course of fertility treatments. They were very excited, but their excitement was short lived because doctors in Russia told them that they must abort some to ensure the survival of the rest.
Dimitri said, “We were very happy when we first found out but we couldn’t celebrate because the doctors told us straight away that it would be impossible to have all of them. Then all we could feel was worry.”
The practice of aborting babies to “save” others is called “selective reduction,” and is common when couples use fertility drugs. As LifeNews previously reported, this is because to increase success rates, IVF practitioners implant more than one embryo in the woman’s uterus in hopes that at least one will take. Then when more embryos than are desired implant, doctors “reduce” the pregnancy down to the desired number. Additionally, carrying more than two babies can cause serious health complications and many doctors feel uncomfortable handling high-risk pregnancies.
However, for Dimitri and Varvara, abortion wasn’t an option and they decided to try and find a doctor who would help them.
Dimitri said, “We just said no as soon as they told us. We prayed to be given children and God granted our prayer, to kill them would be totally against everything we believe. We go to church every week and believe very strongly in our faith. Varvara’s father is a priest in the Russian Orthodox church. For us, having the abortions was not even an option. It was a frightening and sad time for us but we knew we had to have all the babies. We could see all of them on the ultrasounds and each one was a little person. It was not something we even had to discuss.”
They eventually found a doctor who would help them at John Radcliff Hospital in Oxford, England. Amazingly, on November 10th, 2007, a team of 18 doctors and nurses delivered all five babies. According to the Daily Mail, they were delivered at 26-weeks and ranging in weight from just 1lb 13oz to 2lb 2oz. Each baby had one doctor and two nurses assigned to her, and within days they were all breathing by themselves.
At the time, Dimitri said, “They are so small, but very strong. They are little fighters.” Now their girls are healthy seven year olds. The couple recently visited the hospital to pay tribute to the medical staff that delivered their children. Dimitri said, “We are so thankful to the doctors and nurses who took care of Varvara and the girls – they did the most amazing job. We’ve come here to show our gratitude to them. We’ve shown the girls so many pictures of the team as they’ve grown up, so they were very excited to meet them in person and see the place where they were born. It’s very special to us all.”
The consultant obstetrician who oversaw their births, Dr Lawrence Impey, said, “It was planned like a military operation, and the stakes were high. Statistically, it didn’t look as though all five would make it – I had to talk to Varvara and Dimitri about the risks. So it’s wonderful to see all the girls so healthy and happy.”
Dimitri concluded, “We believe God gave the girls to us as a gift and sent us here to give them the best chance of survival. It was very important to us for them to know the people who did so much for them. We cannot thank them enough. I hope the girls will remember this visit for the rest of their lives, and always feel grateful for the care they received.”


March for Life : Steve Ertelt responds

Steve Ertelt:
Dear Lionel,
Your sad piece is an excellent example of the saying that some cut off their nose to spite their face.
First off, your fact checking is dreadful. Steve Ertelt is not at all involved in Lifesite and in fact despises LifeSite for its Catholic emphasis, coverage of homosexuality, unwillingness to compromise on moral principles and unwillingness to be pragmatic and support only Republican Party candidates, even those who are not really pro-life or pro-family.

So Steve is the founder of Lifesites but is not involved with Lifesites but sends me LIfeSite International's new reports and uses an e-mail with the Lifesite.com domain?
(Correction Jan 23, 2015 : Steve Ertelt is the Editor of Lifenews and Steve Jalsevec is the Editor of LifeSites.com)
Secondly you lump all of our staff in the same basket. For example, Hilary White is a firm Latin Mass Catholic who despises the Novus Ordo but who at the same time realizes that LifeSite is NOT a Catholic or otherwise religiously identified organization. We are a news service for the world on the issues that we cover and hence positively influence people of all or no faiths.
(Both organisations report on Catholic issues and misrepresent the Catholic teaching on salvation and Vatican Council II.)

True, however you have covered the last Synod and Lifesites has been correctly critical of the Eucharist being given to pro-abortion politicians.So also kindly say that the Catholic Church teaches that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell, unless they convert formally in the Church with 'faith and baptism' (AG 7).This is the dogmatic teaching of the Church and it is not contradicted by Vatican Council II.Please also express the Church's teachings on salvation, as Hilary White and John Henry Weston do on the Eucharist, abortion etc from a Catholic perspective.Lifesites has a big Catholic viewer/readership.John Henry Weston  also did a good expose on how Church collection in the USA is given to organisations whose values are anti-Catholic.So be consistent and report the salvation issue.It is related to Catholic family catechesis.

You know, we are deeply concerned about Pope Francis and his frequent severe criticisms of orthodox, especially faithful Catholics who overwhelmingly do not deserve such unjust and very harmful judgments from the pope. We hardly know anyone to whom such judgments of the pope applies.
He also does not interpret Vatican Council II in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Instead he uses a false premise and conclusion in the interpretation of the Council. He is forcing this interpretation of Vatican Council II ( with an irrationality) upon the Franciscans of the Immaculate. Could you please comment on this.
I appreciate the work of LIfesites. God bless you all.May you, who are not Catholic, find 'the fullness of the truth' in the Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation.
(Both organisations will not affirm the Catholic orthodox teaching on exclusive salvation in the Church; outside the Church there is no salvation, since they assume that people now in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance are physically visible on earth to be explicit exceptions to the traditional rigorist interpretation of the dogma.)
However, in your case I make an exception. Sadly, there are indeed a very tiny number of Catholics who fit the description of angry, destructive Pharisees who do not seem to love or know Jesus at all but are rather slaves to the the law without any comprehension of the love of God and one's fellow man that must accompany all references to the law.

When you refer to the law with reference to abortion and homosexuality kindly also refer to 'the law' with reference to salvation.

I have met only a tiny handful of "Christians" who fit that description and it is always disconcerting to have such an encounter. And here today I have another such encounter with yourself.

I am only asking you to affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church regarding salvation.When you expect Catholics to live the Church teachings on pro life issues you could encourage them also not to throw away Catholic teachings on the Creed, dogma on salvation and Vatican Council II.This would be consistent.
There is not a trace of charity in your remarks. As a fellow believer, I have to, in all charity, advise you that your approach is a highly damaging one to Christs's Church, no matter how you interpret Church teachings, and that you are placing your soul in danger. Please consider this.
(According to Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the defined dogma Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441, both Steve Ertelt and Steve Jalsevec, Protestants, are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the only Church Jesus founded but they will not report that this is the teaching of the Catholic Church.)

As a fellow believer?
According to the teachings of the Catholic Church you are on the way to Hell.I say this in all charity.Pelosi and Biden will not tell you this.
no matter how you interpret Church teachings

Would you make this interpretation- allowance for those Catholics who are pro abortion and interpret it as being O.K with the Church e.g U.S Catholic politicians?
and that you are placing your soul in danger

I am affirming the teachings of the Catholic Church. Vatican Council II (AG 7), Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc indicate Protestants need to convert into the Catholic Church to go to Heaven. I am reminding you of what the Church teaches.You ignore it when you report on issues-Catholic.
I am not saying that you are condemned.There is eternal hope for you if,before you die,  you accept Jesus as your Saviour in the Catholic Church and live the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church and receive the Sacraments, through with Jesus saves.
At the next March for Life in Rome please ask John Henry Weston , whose work at LifeSites I appreciate, to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in agreement with Vatican Council II. If he cannot affirm Church teachings on exclusive salvation, how can he expect other Catholics ,to be obedient on pro- life teachings ?
He does not affirm the teachings of the Church on salvation with Vatican Council II, with reference to the Franciscans of the Immaculate  and has blocked me from commenting on this issue on the Lifesites website.It is still politically acceptable to affirm pro life issues but not outside the Church there is no salvation, in agreement with Vatican Council II? So why criticize those who are pro abortion ? Since they could also be doing what is politically acceptable  with the Left?
This is said in charity which cannot be expressed in e-mails as when speaking personally face to face or via the telephone.So please don't judge my motives.
In Christ
-Lionel Andrades

January 19, 2015

March for Life : double standard of participants