Monday, April 1, 2013

Muslims everywhere in Rome



Pope Francis washed the feet of a Muslim woman during the Holy Thursday Mass at a detention centre in Rome where the majority of the inmates are Muslims as in  the other prisons in Italy.Most of the immigrants in Italy, legal and illegal, are Muslims.They are assisted by the Jesuit Astali Centre which has a battery of Christian lawyers to assist them stay on in Italy.Most of the residents in Romes municipal centres for the poor and homeless (Centro di Accoglienza) are Muslims. Even most of the Responsibles In charge at these centres are Muslims.The contracts, for food and laundry, at these centres are also given to Muslims. At the Centro de Accoglienza of the Office of Immigration in Boccea, Rome they have an indoor mosque.There is the call to prayer every morning and a special system for dinner during the fasting time of Ramazan.In certain localities like Marconi and Vittorio Emmanuel many Muslims live while  house mosques exist in most areas of Rome.

Supported by the Socialists and Communists they are employed in the Army, police, security, transport etc. They can be seen working at Rome's metro stations and public libraries.Most of the attendees at petrol stations are from Bangladesh.While vegetable and fruit markets are owned by Arabs and other Muslims.Jihadis from Bosnia and Mostar,Croatia have settled in Rome.

Many Muslims marry Christian women.The women have to convert. The Vicariate under Cardinal Ruini informed Christian women of their rights if there is a separation.He did not say that according to the teachings of the Church, they would be lost for all eternity,living in adultery and mortal sin. This would not be pleasing to the influential leftist Jews, who dominate other areas of society here , where Muslims do not have control.


Recently, newspapers have prominently stated that a Saudi sheik likes Rome and is investing in cultural projects.The media here is anti-Catholic and anti-Vatican but will not similarly  criticize Islam or Judaism.


Recently Magdi Alam a high profile convert from Islam, said the Church was not doing enough against the 'evil ideology of Islam'.So he  we was leaving the church.-Lionel Andrades

Muslim Imams in Australia hold that there is exclusive salvation in Islam- and the rest of us are going to Hell

It is reported that in 2007, it was estimated that nearly 20 imams in Australia were paid by Saudi Arabia.(1)


According to the Sunnis,there is exclusive salvation in only Islam and all the others need to convert to go to Paradise.


In Saudi Arabia there are areas not accessible to non Muslims.Christians are imprisoned if found praying.Saudi media is continuously criticizing ChristiansAccording to them Christians are unbelievers.


For the 20 Imams in Australia, Christianity is a false religion according to their Tradition (hadees) and so they have mission (dawah).Islam is missionary.


They reject the Qadiani (Mirzaities) calling themself Muslims. Since the Qadianis do not accept Mohammad, as the last prophet of God, though they accept the tenets of Islam. In Muslim countries Qadianis are imprisoned for proclaiming basic teachings of Mohammad.
 
In Rome a few years back at an Islamic madrassah-like school, the text books in Arabic said all Christians and Jews are going to Hell. This was an exclusive report in the Italian daily Il Messaggerro.

Some 600 years before Islam the Catholic Faith, the only Christian religion at that time, taught there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church. Now even though the Catholic religion still teaches in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church that all Muslims are on the path to Hell unless they convert before death, Catholic religious and lay people do not know the Faith.-Lionel Andrades

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Wahhabi influence in Australia is reported to expand. Saudi Arabia is estimated to spent $120 million on religious works in Australia beginning in 1970's. In March 2007, it was announced that Saudis were planning a $2.7 billion scholarship fund for Australian universities, organised to make the entry of Saudi students into Australia easier to receive tertiary education due to restrictions on their entry into the US and UK in the post-9/11 security environment. In 2007, it was estimated that nearly 20 imams in Australia were paid by Saudi Arabia, including Sheik Mohammed Swaiti, the most eminent Muslim cleric in Canberra and spiritual leader of the Abu Bakr mosque since 1994.

All Muslims including the Prophet Mohammad would be lost according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism is not taught by the Catholic Renewal and Evangelisation Diocesan Office in the Archdiocese of Sydney.

That all Muslims including the Prophet Mohammad would be lost according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, would not be the message or doctrine of the Catholic Renewal and Evangelisation Diocesan Office (CREDO) in the Archdiocese of Sydney.

According to Vatican Council II ( LG 14, AG 7)

Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."

Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
The Koran indicates that Mohammad knew about Jesus and the Church and yet he founded a new religion and neither did he convert.
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Vatican Council II also says all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.The founder of the Muslim religion did not choose to be baptised with water.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door...
God is fully glorified, provided that men fully and consciously accept His work of salvation, which He has accomplished in Christ.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church mentions this same requirement for salvation (CCC 846,845,1257). CREDO in Sydney has never stated that according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church all Muslims in Sydney need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water to go Heaven and to avoid Hell.

It would be heresy, a mortal sin for them not accept Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

It's also syncretistic to appeal to Muslims to enter the Church and only a belief in Jesus is enough.This would mean they would be saved even if they  are joining a Protestant community or the Orthodox Church or the Jehovah's Witnesses. According to the CREDO message, on the Archdiocese website, only a belief in Jesus is enough for salvation.This is Protestantism.

On the True Catholic discussion board Fr.John George of the Archdiocese of Sydney, and other Catholics are unable, as expected, to name any person in 2013 saved in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire, the seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church, elements of sanctification, a good conscience, being good and holy non Catholics etc. So CREDO could teach the doctrine that all non Catholics in Sydney, Muslims included, need to convert into the Church for salvation and there are no known exceptions.
This was also the traditional Catholic reason for mission.

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are traditional on this issue. They are in agreement with the saints and popes. Pope John Paul II was missionary in Dominus Iesus and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

The Archdiocese of Sydney could have respect and tolerance for Muslims and also speak the truth about the Catholic Faith.-Lionel Andrades


http://www.sydneycatholic.org/works/all_agencies_in_sydney.asp?ID=103




Video- Michael Voris indicates in another context that the Archdiocese of Sydney cannot name any exceptions. If the Archdiocese of New York does not know of any exceptions, then neither does the Archdiocese of Sydney. CREDO is in same position as Fr.Jonathan Morris.

http://youtu.be/ylVcrYlpOBc