Monday, July 15, 2013

It is not contrary to Vatican Council to have a Catholic State- Bishop Athanasius Schneider


Bishop Athanasius Schneider  said  that it is not contrary to Vatican Council to have a  Catholic State in which the Government recognizes true worship and tolerates other religions and does not persecute them. It would be recognized that the majority of the people of that state are Catholic and they want to hand this Tradition to their grandchildren.So they also have some privileges. This is the rule of democracy where the people are in a majority.(31.44)
 
To recognize true worship, a Catholic State, it is necessary also to recognize that Vatican Council II affirms outside the Church there is no salvation. When we recognize that the Council is affirming the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Ad Gentes 7, then Vatican Council II is also saying that other Christian communities and churches need Catholic  Faith  for salvation (AG 7).Christian religions are not paths to salvation and their members need to convert into the Church. With extra ecclesiam nulla salus the Council is traditional on other religions and ecumenism.

In principle a Christian could be saved but defacto in the present times all Christians need Catholic Faith for salvation. Catholic Faith includes the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church and the Sacraments.Vatican Council II no where states that defacto a Christian does not have to convert into the Church in the present times for salvation.
 
When we accept that outside the Church there is no salvation and  there are no known exceptions to this traditional teaching in Vatican Council II (LG 16,LG 8 etc  not being known exceptions but refer to in principle cases) we have a moral right to affirm that though there is tolerance and freedom for other religions, true worship is there in only the Catholic Church.Though de facto other religions do exist, de jure the only way to salvation is in the Catholic Church.So there is a Constitution of a Catholic State  in which the centre is not man, but God as understood by the Catholic Church.
 
This is the basis for a Catholic State  and the non separation of Church and  State. All this follows when we accept that Vatican Council II is affirming the  literal interpretation of the thrice defined dogma on exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades

Living Tradition has made a factual error : so have other Catholic media

The same error of allegedly being able to physically see the dead or know them personally on earth or Heaven, made by Living Tradition of the Roman Theological Forum, is also there in so many Catholic media, traditionalist and dissenting.
It's there on the websites presently of EWTN, Catholic Answers, Catholics United for the Faith, Catholic Legate...
They say they do not accept the literal interpretation of Fr. Leonard Feeney.Why ?. The answer," We can see the dead saved with the baptism of desire etc who are known exceptions to the traditional teaching on all needing  to enter the Church visibly to go to Heaven and avoid Hell."
 
They do not say that they are afraid they will be persecuted and that some of them could lose their big bank balance and comfortable lifestyle.It's easier to put the blame on the 'Feeneyites' and to condemn them. "Those ultra traditionalists who are so different from us good Catholics!".The Feeneyite scapegoat!Many writers on these Catholic websites know they have made a mistake but they don't want to support Fr.Leonard Feeney.So they lie.
 
So many of them misinform Catholics on the true teachings of the Catholic Church - Art Sippo, Patrick Madrid, Stever Ray...Even traditonalists at Rorate Caeili, the Latin Mass Societies,Mons.Ignacio Barreiro,Fr.Brian Harrison, SSPX and FSSP priests...
-Lionel Andrades


Living Tradition wanted to avoid being anti Semitic is now in a fix

 Msgr.Msgr. John F. McCarthy, J.C.D., S.T.D.,Editor and Assistant Editor Fr. Brian Harrison, Editor of  Living Tradition,an organ of the Roman Theological Forum, have made an objective, factual error.The Editors assumed that Redemptoris Missio (10) contradicted Fr. Leonard Feeney. For them those saved in invincible ignorance etc would be physically visible for all of us and personally known to them,to be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The Editors assumed that we could see the dead.
 
 It is a fact of life that we cannot see the dead.Objectively they are not visible to us.
So with no known exceptions to the dogma mentioned in Redemptoris Missio or any other Magisterial document, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma according to St.Robert Bellarmine- and Fr.Leonard Feeney.
 
Now how can they affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus in agreement with Fr.Leonard Feeney ?
 
Fr.Brian Harrison, the Assistant Editor at Living Tradition has on the Internet in another context, denied that he was anti-Semitic or held the literal interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation being there in only the Catholic Church;all in the present times, needing to be visible members of the Church .
Now the editors do not have a choice unless their theological papers keep insisting that they can see the dead on earth, who are exceptions to the 'rigorist interpretation' of Fr. Leonard Feeney.
With the leftists creating new hate laws which are pro-evil and anti-God, it is getting more difficult legally to be a Christian or living the Judaic-Christian-Islamic teachings.Will Msgr.Msgr. John F. McCarthy, J.C.D., S.T.D.and Fr. Brian Harrison be able to say on the Internet that there are no visible, no known, exceptions in 2013 to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?
-Lionel Andrades
 
July 14, 2013

Living Tradition, Catholic Theological Journal makes a factual, objective error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/07/living-tradition-catholic-theological.html#links