Saturday, October 7, 2017

Tell your bishop you affirm Vatican Council II(premise-free) : it is rational, simple and traditional and not a rupture with the past


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We now have a ready-made, made- to- fit Vatican Council II.Any Catholic can affirm it before a bishop or religious superior. Those days are over when the Vatican would ask religious communities  to affirm Vatican Council II for canonical status. Since Vatican Council II (premise-free) is traditional,rational and non heretical.
Call up your bishop and tell him you affirm Vatican Council II( premise-free) .Ask him what does he think about it.
If you are a lay Catholic who attends Mass at a SSPX chapel call up the Prior.Ask him what does he think about Vatican Council II ( premise-free).
Similarly if you belong to a liberal religious community, ask the superior if he or she is comfortable with it.
Tell him or her that you affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) like the missionaries and magisterium of the 16th century.If he says that's changed with Vatican Council II, tell him it hasn't with Vatican Council II (premise-free).Pre and post Vatican Council II theology is now in harmony.Vatican Council II interpreted with the premise was a rupture with Tradition, especially EENS.
So now when the Jesuits say all the natives in Goa, India would have been saved in invincible ignorance even if St.Francis Xavier did not go there,tell them it is not true.Since with Vatican Council II (premise-free) being saved in invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma EENS.
There was a mistake in 1960-65 at Vatican Council II.They picked up the objective error from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which inferred that invincible ignorance referred to known people saved outside the Church.Unknown people were mistaken as being known.This was the false premise.
So with the false premise Lumen Gentium 14 says those who know about Jesus and the Church and its necessity for salvation are on the way to Hell.In other words only those who know and not those in invincible ignorance, is their message.This is Vatican Council II with the false premise.It contradicts the dogma EENS which says all people need to enter the Church as members for salvation.It is not just those who know.If there is any one in ignorance, living in the forest who is to be saved, St. Thomas Aquinas says God will send a preacher to him.He does not say that invincible ignorance is an exception to the strict and traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS which he supported.
Without the false premise in Vatican Council II(LG 14 etc), we know all the natives in Goa were on the way to Hell without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. It was the same for the natives in the Americas before Columbus went there.
With Vatican Council II ( premise-free) there is nothing in Lumen Gentium 14 or Lumen Gentium itself, to contradict the traditional and strict interpretation of EENS.
With the 'old' Vatican Council II, the one interpreted with the false premise, Unitatis Redintigratio 3( Christians in imperfect communion with the Church) is referring to salvation for Protestants.The possibility is mentioned here since for the Church Fathers at Vatican Council II, at least for Cardinal Cushing and the Jesuits, there was known salvation outside the Church.A theoretical possibility for them was a known reality, hypothetical speculation was an actual case of a non Catholic saved outside the Church.This is Vatican Council II interpreted by the cardinals, with the false premise.That is changed now.
When invisible cases of Christians speculatively are considered saved in imperfect communion with the Church are not physically visible and known in our reality,UR 3 does not contradict EENS.It does not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology.There is no known Anonymous Christian saved outside the Church.There is no new ecclesiology.
Now with Vatican Council II( premise-free) there is no theological opening for the new ecumenism.
Vatican Council II with the false premise was needed to support the new ecclesiology upon which was based the new ecumenism.That is eliminated now.
We are back to the past ecclesiology which gave us theologically, only an ecumenism of return.
With Vatican Council II (premise-free) we have outside the Church there is no salvation. So tell your bishop or superior to support Catholic political parties which proclaim the non separation of Church and State and affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King in political legislation.
Since all non Catholics are on the way to Hell according to Vatican Council II(AG 7) Catholics know that the priority(to save souls from Hell) for the state-religion , is the Catholic Faith.There must be a separation of Satanic secularism and state.
If your bishop or superior does not want to accept Vatican Council II( premise-free) tell him or her that there is no other choice.Since Vatican Council II, with the false premise, is irrational,non traditional and heretical even though it is presently magisterial.It has to be rejected and replaced.

WHERE ARE THE PRACTICAL EXCEPTIONS TO EENS IN 2017?
How can you as a lay man state that people in Heaven allegedly saved outside the Church are visible on earth? Where are the practical exceptions to EENS in 2017? Do you know someone who will be saved without entering the Church, may be with the baptism of desire? Of course not.This was all nonsense. It contradicted the Principle of Non Contradiction and was made the official theology of the Church by the enemies of the Church and good people who accepted this without being aware of the confusion and deception.

NOSTRA AETATE
We love and serve every one because of Jesus. This is what Jesus asks us to do and not because Nostra Aetate indicates it.There is nothing in Nostra Aetate to contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.Nor does Nostra Aetate contradict Ad Gentes 7 which states all need faith and baptism for salvation.We know that most people are on the way to Hell at the time of death, since most people die outside the Church.In Heaven there are only Catholics (AG 7).Catholics are the new people of God the Chosen People (Nostra Aetate 4).There could be good and holy things in other religions(NA 2) but the religions are not paths to salvation.Islam is a false path to salvation and the Jewish synagogue of Satan of course leads to Hell.This is a magisterial teaching according to Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise.
So affirm Vatican Council II(premise-free) and tell your friends and relatives to do the same.If your a bishop or superior set an example for the others.
-Lionel Andrades
First Saturday
Feats of Our Lady of the Rosary.


 OCTOBER 7, 2017

SSPX canonical recognition is assured : Vatican Council II (premise-free) is no more an issue 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-canonical-recognition-is-assured.html


OCTOBER 7, 2017

SSPX must re-open negotiations for canonical status : cite new doctrinal references and explanations on this blog
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-must-re-open-negotiations-for.html

SSPX canonical recognition is assured : Vatican Council II (premise-free) is no more an issue

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They simply have to announce that they affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) and all the other doctrinal teachings of the Catholic Church.They do not reject Vatican Council II (premise-free).Instead they reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the irrational premise.So they are endorsing a premise-free Vatican Council II and demand canonical recognition.The Council is interpreted without assuming invisible people are visible,without claiming unknown people are known examples of salvation outside the Church.This premise-free Vatican Council II is rational and traditional.It is not a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.The SSPX affirms the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) as being hypothetical cases.Theoretically they would have to be followed with the baptism of water,since this is the de fide teaching of the Church; all need the baptism of water in the Catholic Church for salvation(Catechism of the Catholic Church n.1257).
They also affirm the Nicene Creed which states,'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and not three known baptisms.Desire,blood and invincible ignorance are not defacto,known and visible baptisms,like the baptism of water.
So they interpret Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases 
just being hypothetical. This also applies to all religious communities which already have canonical status.
In principle, they do not assume hypothetical cases are not hypothetical in the present times.
They affirm the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation.They also affirm Vatican Council II ( premise-free) in  harmony with the Athanasius Creed,since the Council  states all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7).
For them there is only an ecumenism of return based on the old ecclesiology which is not contradicted by Vatican Council II(premise-free).Since outside the Church there is no salvation and no known salvation,every one needs to enter the Catholic Church with no exception.
To further this ideal there must be no separation of Church and State.The Social Reign of Christ the King must be proclaimed.It is a priority in political legislation.
All non Catholics are on the way to Hell unless they enter and remain in the Catholic Church as members( Dominus Iesus 20,CDF,Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis s.j,Vatican Council II,Ad Gentes 7,Catechism of Pope Pius X, Catechism of Trent, Cantate Domino Council of Florence 1441 etc).So  inter-faith marriages are adultery.They are not a Sacrament.Marriages must be solemnised only among Catholics.Non Catholic spouses are outside the Church where there is no salvation.
The SSPX does not violate the Principle of Non Contradiction by supporting a Vatican Council II in which hypothetical cases are considered practical exceptions to traditional EENS.There are no practical exceptions for us humans.Invisible people in Heaven are not also visible on earth.
They also do not violate the Principle of Non Contradiction by supporting an EENS in which hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are considered practical exceptions. We cannot see or meet someone saved with BOD, BOB and I.I.
So the SSPX affirms a premise-free EENS and Vatican Council.Vatican Council II is no more an obstacle for the SSPX Reconciliation. All Catholic religious communities must choose this rational and traditional option.
The present Magisterium must cease to be in schism with the Magisterium of the past.They must affirm a premise-free Vatican Council II and EENS.
They must cease to be in heresy and affirm the Nicene Creed without the irrational premise.
They must be rational and interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases not being considered objectively known in 2017.
The two popes must affirm the past ecclesiology of the Church at every liturgy and Rite, since Vatican Council II ( premise-free) is not ' a development'.  
Over the years those who were interpreting Vatican Council II as a break with traditional Catholic theology were sincere.They did not make the visible-invisible, known-unknown distinction.Now they know the mistake and can correct it.
Now it is possible for individual SSPX priests to go to the Vatican or the local bishop and tell them that they affirm Vatican Council II(without the premise).Religious from other communities and lay people can do the same.
-Lionel Andrades
(First Saturday)
Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary


OCTOBER 7, 2017

SSPX must re-open negotiations for canonical status : cite new doctrinal references and explanations on this blog
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-must-re-open-negotiations-for.html

SSPX must re-open negotiations for canonical status : cite new doctrinal references and explanations on this blog

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The Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) must immediately open contacts with the Vatican for their canonical status.They must also assure Cardinal Raymond Burke, with precise doctrinal statements, that they are not in schism.They must demand canonical recognition. Don't me defensive on Vatican Council II ( without the premise).
The SSPX could cite the reports on this blog Eucharist and Mission and ask the CDF/Ecclesia Dei,Vatican,if Vatican Council II( premise-free) is acceptable to them.They could ask Ecclesia Dei if it is permitted to interpret Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical.Would this be approved by the Vatican and the Bishops' Conferences?
The doctrinal issue to be approved is simple.
1.Can the SSPX interpret the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I)as referring to hypothetical and theoretical cases and not practical exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS),for example, in 2017?
2.Can the SSPX interpret LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22, AG 7, AG 11 etc as being hypothetical cases known only to God? They are not references to known people saved outside the Church,without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So they are not practical exceptions to EENS as it was interpreted by the magisterium of the 16th century.
So the SSPX would be affirming Vatican Council II in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS, in which BOD, BOB and I.I are not exceptions.
If Ecclesia Dei agrees with these two points then Vatican Council II is no more an issue for the  SSPX. It is not an impediment for reconciliation.
Also Cardinal Raymond Burke can no more say that the SSPX is in schism for rejecting Vatican Council II.
The SSPX must begin negotiations immediately for its canonical status and cite the doctrinal and theological explanations given on this blog, as a reference.
-Lionel Andrades
(First Saturday)
Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary