Monday, May 6, 2019

These points on faith and salvation were not covered by the Open Letter to the Bishops. They can still be studied and announced.

The Open Letter to the Bishops by the 19 signatories restrict themselves to morals and not  heresy on faith and salvation.
Both of the present popes interpret the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I) as referring to personally known people saved outside the Church. So this how they get their exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Hypothetical cases are objective examples of salvation outside the Church for them. It is with this false premise that they interpret Church dogmas and doctrines related to faith and salvation.
It is important to note that when the popes and saints over the centuries referred to BOD, BOB and I.I they meant hypothetical and theoretical cases,only. This is a given. They cannot be anything else.This is something obvious.
But the liberal theologians in the 1940's and then at Vatican Council II made a false inference. They assumed BOD, BOB and I.I were literally known and  so were practical exceptions to traditional EENS. They needed to get rid of the dogma EENS for whatever reason and the only way they could do it was by assuming there was known salvation outside the Church. Possibilities were considered known non Catholics saved outside the Church.
This was a ruse.Since obviously there were no such cases when even Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was the Prefect of the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF).
He allowed LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc , ALL HYPOTHETICAL, to be interpreted as being exceptions to traditional EENS. So it was implied that these were personally known people to be exceptions to EENS. Invisible people cannot be exceptions to the dogmatic teaching on all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.
So this was heresy. It was a heretical interpretation of Vatican Council II.
He could have interpretd LG 8 etc as not being exceptions to EENS and so there would be no basis for the new ecumenism, the new evangelisation and a new understanding of what is Church( ecclesiology).
But Cardinal Ratzinger maintained the heresy and the false narrative on Vatican Council II and was supported by others at the CDF.
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Now the signatories of the Open Letter have the text of Vatican Council II before them. The Council can be interpreted in harmony with EENS and the past ecclesiology or as a rupture. It depends upon how we interpret hypothetical cases.If LG 8, LG 16 etc refer to known or unknown people in the present times, decides the conclusion.
For the two popes LG 8 etc refer to personally known people and so there is a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors).
This is heresy and it is not denied by the two popes.
The heresy is there in two theological papers of the International Theological Society and it can be read in black and white.(See the right hand bar for details).So we have the evidence. We have the proof.

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With personally visible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I  the present two popes interpret the Nicene Creed to mean,'I believe in three or more known baptisms, desire, blood and invincible ignorance... and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'. This is first class heresy.We cannot change the understanding of the Nicene Creed.The whole Church now has to repeat the new interpretation of the Nicene Creed.

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So we have a false new theology created at Vatican Council II with alleged physically visible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I.Then this irrationality is applied to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). So there is no more the strict interpretation of EENS but EENS with BOD, BOB and I.I being exceptions. Now even GS 22, UR 2, NA 2 etc are interpreted as literal exceptions.
Pope Benedict confirmed that EENS was no more the same as it was for the missionaries in the 16th century(Avvenire, March 2016). He said there was ' a development' with Vatican Council II. Of course he means Vatican Council II with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc being exceptions to EENS.
So the  faith - teachings have been changed on EENS and  the Nicene Creed by  assuming invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8 etc are not invisible but are objective exceptions to EENS.
This has also given a new meaning to the Apostles Creed and the Profession of Faith (See the right hand bar for details). The Catechism of Pope Pius X would conradict itself. It says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and also mentions invincible( which is visible for the popes and the CDF).This is modernism.
This is not denied by the two popes.
For example when Pope Benedict said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century he could have said, "EENS TODAY IS THE SAME AS IN THE 16TH CENTURY SINCE THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO EENS IN VATICAN COUNCIL II".
But there had to be exceptions to EENS for him.So he misinterpreted Vatican Council II.He also wanted the Society of St. Pius X to accept this false interpretation of the Council. He had Archbishop Lefebvre excommunicated. The Archbishop was correct Vatican Council II when interpreted with the irrationality had to be a rupture with Tradition.
Similarly if Pope Francis wants to, he can say that EENS today is the same as it was for the Magisterium in the 16th century.There is no conflict with Vatican Council II. But he needs to create heresy. He needs to create the 'hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition'.
These points on faith and salvation were not covered by the Open Letter to the Bishops. They can still be studied and announced. - Lionel Andrades
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JANUARY 30, 2019

CDF delegation meet Asian Bishops in Thailand : new doctrines on salvation presented   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/asian-bishops-meet-cdf-delegation-in.html

In The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptized they used Marchetti theology, an irrational theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/05/in-hope-of-salvation-for-infants-who.html
Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus


NO NEED FOR ‘SECRET TALKS’ ANYMORE: WE KNOW THE HERETICAL POSITION OF THE VATICAN NEGOTIATORS

BISHOP CHARLES MOREROD O.P IN BLATANT HERESY IS TO SPEAK BEFORE THE POPE ON ANGLICAN RELATIONS

VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS

INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION USES PREMISE THAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT : LIMBO

The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS


Bishop Fellay, Fr.Schmidberger,FSSP,Joseph Fenton seem unaware the baptism of desire is not an explicit exception to the dogma

NO NEED FOR ‘SECRET TALKS’ ANYMORE: WE KNOW THE HERETICAL POSITION OF THE VATICAN NEGOTIATORS





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The two popes have made a theological mistake.The evidence is now out

“Heresy,” according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, is “the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.”
So what evidence do the dissident conservatives offer for the argument that Francis is a heretic?
Not much.-Los Angeles Times

The signatories of the Open Letter to the Bishops were correct to infer from the popes actions his intentions and so accuse him of heresy and sin. Veritatis Splendor of Pope John Paul II tells us that a mortal sin is always a mortal sin and the outward action indicates the subjective intent.
But the Open Letter gave a wide berth to the pope on Vatican Council II. It did not criticize Vatican Council II which is interpreted with a false premise, by Pope Francis. It did not tell him that he could interpret Vatican Council II without the irrationality and there would be no rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)  and an ecumenism of return.
The Letter mentions the Abu Dhai Statement but the pope defends himself by citing Vatican Council II.It is  interpreted with hypothetical cases being objective examples of salvation outside the Church.So they emerge exceptions to EENS.It is a rupture with EENS as it was interpreted by the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.The result is ecclesiology is changed and there is a new ecumenism with other new doctrines.
To reject the dogma EENS with there being allegedly physically visible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), is heresy.EENS has been defined by three Church Councils and Pope Pius XII called it an 'infallible teaching'.The dogma EENS is rejected and the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is made obsolete. This is heresy in public. It is formal heresy.
The Nicene Creed, when it states, that we believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, is changed to a belief in three or more known baptisms, desire, blood and invincible ignorance, which exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. So this is a new version of the Nicene Creed. It is heresy.
Note: the popes and saints over the centuries mentioned BOD, BOB and I.I but did not state that they referred to personally known people saved outside the Church. So a wrong inference is made by the pope.It is a heretical inference.
 With the interpretation of EENS and the Nicence Creed changed we have heresy.
It also means Vatican Council II is being heretically interpreted when a rational alternative is available. So a rupture with Tradition ( Catechisms and Creeds) is intentionally being created by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the present two popes.
Here are seven points .They are in response to Jimmy Akins article saying that the signatories of the Open Letter have not mentioned any specific theology and so the pope cannot be accused of formal heresy.

1.So there is a denial of traditional EENS by Pope Francis which is confirmed in public by Pope Benedict.Pope Pius XII called EENS an 'infallible teaching'(Letter of the Holy Office 1949). So this is heresy.
2.Since both popes interpret BOD, BOB and I.I as referring to known people saved outside the Church, they have  rejected the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation. This is heresy.
3.With seen- in- the- flesh cases of BOD, BOB and I.I(otherwise they cannot be exceptions to EENS) for the present two popes they have changed the meaning of the Nicene Creed to ,'I believe in three or more known baptisms, desire, blood and invincible ignorance... and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'. This is first class heresy.
4.Since BOD, BOB and I.I refer to known people saved outside the Church( otherwise they could not be exceptions to EENS according to the 16th century) the Catechism of Pope Pius X is contradicted when it says that all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.
The Catechisms would also contradict themselves with the use of the pontiff's irrationality.They would be contradicting EENS and the Creeds according to the 16th century. This is heresy.
5.Vatican Council II can be interpreted with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical and not objectively known people saved outside the Church. Then Vatican Council II would not be a rupture with EENS according to the Magisterium of the 16th century.But this is not the interpretation of the two pontiffs. This is heresy. They intentionally interpret Vatican Council II  with a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition( past ecclesiology, ecumenism of return, Syllabus of Errors, Creeds and Catechism).
6.Dominus Iesus and Redemptoris Missio was written assuming that BOD, BOB and I.I referred to known people saved outside the Church.So there was salvation outside the Church. This is irrational but this is the basis of the New Theology.Possibilities and theoretical cases are assumed to be practical exceptions to EENS in the present times(2019). With the New Theology Dominus  Iesus and Redemptoris Missio do not affirm exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church and so they are a rupture with Tradition( 16th century EENS, past ecclesiology).A heretical theology creates new doctrines.They are heretical.They are  expressed in the new ecumenism( in which Protestants do not need to convert), a new ecclesiology( in which there is salvation outside the church), new mission( in which non Catholics are saved in their religion since there is known salvation outside the Church,possibilities are real people) etc.This is heretical doctrine. 
7. With visible- for- the- pontiff cases of BOD, BOB and I.I and so they have re-interpreted St. Thomas Aquinas who was a Feeneyite. Aquinas affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and knew that hypothetical cases of being saved in invincible ignorance and the case of the unknown catechumen, were not objective exceptions to EENS.The pontiffs and the CDF also project St. Augustine. St. Francis of Assisi  and the  other saints who affirmed exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, as denying it.They deny it with alleged practical exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I.The saints are interpreted heretically.

So we have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest. 1

I would invite the signatories of the Open Letter to the Bishops  to comment on what I have in 'We have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest'. 1 Or  re-present  it, express it as they understand it. Let us read it on their blogs and view it on their media.Faggioli and Akins demands have been met.We now know the exact theology which creates heresy.We have found the missing link. 2
 Jimmy Akins and Massimo Faggioli will have to admit that the two popes have made a theological mistake.The evidence is shown to them.
The theological mistake has resulted in new doctrines, heretical doctrines which are a rupture with Tradition( Creeds, EENS, Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return etc).
-Lionel Andrades
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May 5, 2019


We have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/we-have-heresy-in-theology-and-doctrine.html

 

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May 6, 2019

Jimmy Akins and Massimo Faggioli now need to defend themselves or admit they were wrong and I am correct. They cannot continue to say that there was no theology mentioned, which shows that Pope Francis is in heresy 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/jimmy-akins-and-massimo-faggioli-now.html

 





 https://www.latimes.com/opinion/enterthefray/la-ol-pope-heretic-20190504-story.html
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Jimmy Akins and Massimo Faggioli now need to defend themselves or admit they were wrong and I am correct. They cannot continue to say that there was no theology mentioned, which shows that Pope Francis is in heresy

Pope Francis is the pope for me and even if he and another pope would teach heresy, the teachings of the Catholic Church would not change for me. Even when the present two popes are forced to follow the Left,  and so Satan, the fundamental teachings of the Church on faith and morals do not change for me.
Fr.Joseph Ratzinger tried to change doctrine on faith (salvation) at Vatican Council II(1965) but we see after some 50 years that the doctrine has corrected itself, like an unsteady, sinking ship has buoyed  and balanced itself and is steady on the water once again.
He would know now that he could not say that unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).He could not simply get rid of the dogma EENS which points to an existing reality at another level, the supernatural level.
He made a mistake. He tried to change reality and reality has corrected itself.
So much of his theological writings is now worthless straw.Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus carried his theological infection.The infection is there in Vatican Council II  which he did not identify or cure.The germ was already present in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(1949) made an error on a faith-issue.The Boston Heresy now refers to the cardinals and not Fr. Leonard Feeney.
Jimmy Akins and Massimo Faggioli are unable to say that the popes have made a theological mistake. I have shown precisely where they were wrong.
We Catholics can now interpret Vatican Council II with invisible cases of LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc not being known and real exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. This is the theology of the Catholic Church today, without the mistake.Nothing in Vatican Council II contradicts EENS according to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.
This is the theology the popes have to choose to avoid the new ecumenism, new ecclesiology, new inter faith marriage doctrines etc.The errors in doctrine were only possible with the new theology, which creates heresy and which Akins and Faggiolli still defend.
Is Jimmy Akins and Massimo Faggioli willing to say invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc never ever were exceptions to traditional EENS and so the popes have made a mistake, which they can correct ?
For me the Magisterium cannot make a mistake on faith and morals since the teachings of the Church cannot change.They point out to a fixed, objective reality at the supernatural  level, where exists Heaven, Hell and Purgatory.
Akins and Faggioli, like the present two popes, are using a theology based upon a false premise and inference.This theology has been exposed.
They now need to defend themselves or admit there were wrong and I am correct. They cannot continue to say that there was no theology mentioned, which shows that Pope Francis is in heresy.
They cannot continue to maintain that there are literal cases in 2019 of non Catholics saved outside the Church with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc.Since there cannot be practical exceptions to EENS there can be no theological basis for an ecumenism of return and the new  ecclesiology.
I would invite the signatories of the Open Letter to the Bishops  to comment on what I have in 'We have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest'. 1 Or  re-present  it, express it as they understand it. Let us read it on their blogs and view it on their media.Faggioli and Akins demands have been met.We now know the exact theology which creates heresy.We have found the missing link.
It is possible, over time that Pope Francis and Pope Benedict will correct the mistake. They will affirm Vatican Council II without the mistakes and then end the theological confusion in the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades


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MAY 5, 2019

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We have heresy in theology and doctrine and it is manifest

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/we-have-heresy-in-theology-and-doctrine.html
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MAY 5, 2019

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The Jesuit Fr.Leonard Feeney is supported by Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) on EENS. Pope Francis can confirm this.He can also clarify that Vatican Council II (Cushingite) has a mistake

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-jesuit-frleonard-feeney-is.html

MAY 4, 2019

Vatican Council II(Cushingite) creates a rupture with the Nicene Creed. This should be sufficient reason for Pope Francis to change ship and desert the old crew
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/vatican-council-iicushingite-creates.html

MAY 4, 2019

Pope Francis in good conscience could affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and reject Vatican Council II( Cushingite)
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/pope-francis-in-good-conscience-could.html

 MAY 4, 2019

What if Pope Francis accepts Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) ?

 MAY 3, 2019

Fr.Leonard Feeney's interpretation of EENS is supported by Vatican Council II( Feeneyite), a frightful spectre for the liberals.This is something that has come from out of the blues. No one planned it or even conceived it.The Council is Feeneyite
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/frleonard-feeneys-interpretation-of.html

MAY 3, 2019

Michael Sean Winters is probably aware of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and is afraid and and so mentions it often
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/michael-sean-winters-is-probably-aware.html

MAY 3, 2019

Dorothy Cummings McLean

LifeSite News like the traditionalists and conservatives accept Vatican Council II ( Cushingite ) which is irrational and heretical : they are not aware of Vatican Council II (Feeneyite)



 MAY 3, 2019

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The approach which should have been used by the 19 signatories of the Open Letter to the Bishops on Pope Francis' heresies would be to identify Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite). Then interpret the Council in harmony with all Magisterial documents, also interpreted with Feeneyism. Once this orthodoxy is established they would then present what they have written

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-approach-which-should-have-been.html

MAY 2, 2019

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Cushingite signatories unaware of Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ploy : repeat same mistake

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/cushingite-signatories-unaware-of.html

APRIL 30, 2019

Ms. Mary Ellen Mahon

Mary Ellen Mahon and Kelly Goodreau, curia members and catechists in the Diocese of Manchester, USA agree with the St. Benedict Center on doctrine. There is no denial or contradiction on the following four points

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/mary-ellen-mahon-and-kelly-goodreau.html

 APRIL 30, 2019



Bishop Peter Libasci's pastoral programs are based upon a non Catholic irrationality which creates false philosophy and theology




APRIL 30, 2019
Petition the popes:1) Are there really exceptions to EENS ? 2) Did the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II make an objective error?


APRIL 29, 2019

Catholics who attend Holy Mass in English in the diocese of Manchester, USA are not told that they can interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of irrational Cushingism
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/catholics-who-attend-holy-mass-in.html

APRIL 28, 2019

This pontificate has shown us that a pope can make a doctrinal error on faith ( exclusive salvation negated with Cushingism) and morals ( Amoris Laetitia- Eucharist can be given to the divorced and remarried)
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/this-pontificate-has-shown-us-that-pope.html

APRIL 28, 2019


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Important points were left out in Michael Voris' interview of Brother Andre Marie MICM

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/important-points-were-left-out-in.html


 APRIL 27, 2019


Church Militant TV in its promo video shouts "Faithful to the Magisterium" - this is like a joke.Since 'the magisterium' is no more faithful to the past Magisterium on faith and morals and especially on salvation theology

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/church-militant-tv-in-its-promo-video.html

APRIL 26, 2019







The St.Benedict Center can affirm all Magisterial documents including EENS ( extra ecclesiam nulla salus) with ' the red not being an exception to the blue'

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-stbenedict-center-can-affirm-all.html
  

   
  
  
  

JANUARY 28, 2019

In Magisterial documents the red is not an exception to the blue, there red does not contradict the blue : with the blue there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition (16th - century extra ecclesium nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, past exclusivist ecclesiology etc)  

  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/in-magisterial-documents-red-is-not.html


 APRIL 24, 2019


Ten examples of Cushingism



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