Saturday, February 3, 2018

SSPX is in doctrinal error like the magisterium and there is no denial from them : through their silence they admit their mistake





Comment:
I am sorry but tell me again or show me where the  fssp  and  society of Pope Pius X made a mistake on this doctrine. 

Lionel :
Here they are...., you can find them on the SSPX website, listed below in red.  
We now know that there is only one known and visible baptism for us human beings.No one has seen salvation outside the Church.No one knows of any one saved with the baptism of desire in particular in Heaven.Someone allegedly saved with the baptism of desire or baptism of blood in the past cannot be an objective exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) in the present times(2018). For there to be an exception there would have to be a known person saved outside the Church in the present times.He or she could then be cited as an example of salvation outside the Church.
So the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) never ever were exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The liberal theologians made a mistake or faked it, in 1949 and then in 1960-1965 and in the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994).
We can only accept BOD,BOB and I.I as speculative and hypothetical cases, possibillities for us human beings which can only be known to God in  a concrete way.
So the Society of St. Pius X has made a mistake in the following reports on their official website.This is the error of the FSSP and also the sedevacantists influenced by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

The three baptisms
Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
 Originally in the March 1998 issue of The Angelus magazine.


The three errors of the Feeneyites
http://archives.sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/three_errors_of_feeneyites.htm



Fr. Feeney and Catholic doctrine
http://archives.sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/fr_feeney_catholic_doctrine.htm

Against the Heresies by Archbishop Lefebvre

Open Letter to Confused Catholics by Archbishop Lefebvre

Baptism of Desire by Fr. John-Marc Rulleau

Is Feeneyism Catholic? by Fr. Francois Laisney





  • Against the Heresies, by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre:
1. Page 216: “Evidently, certain distinctions must be made. Souls can be saved in a religion other than the Catholic religion (Protestantism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.), but not by this religion. There may be souls who, not knowing Our Lord, have by the grace of the good Lord, good interior dispositions, who submit to God…But some of these persons make an act of love which implicitly is equivalent to baptism of desire. It is uniquely by this means that they are able to be saved.”[1]
2. Page 217: “One cannot say, then, that no one is saved in these religions…”[2]
3. Pages 217-218: “This is then what Pius IX said and what he condemned. It is necessary to understand the formulation that was so often employed by the Fathers of the Church: ‘Outside the Church there is no salvation.’ When we say that, it is incorrectly believed that we think that all the Protestants, all the Moslems, all the Buddhists, all those who do not publicly belong to the Catholic Church go to hell. Now, I repeat, it is possible for someone to be saved in these religions, but they are saved by the Church, and so the formulation is true: Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. This must be preached.”[3]

  • Open Letter to Confused Catholics, by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre:
Pages 73-74: “Does this mean that no Protestant, no Muslim, no Buddhist or animist will be saved? No, it would be a second error to think that. Those who cry for intolerance in interpreting St. Cyprian’s formula Outside the Church there is no salvation, also reject the Creed, “I accept one baptism for the remission of sins,” and are insufficiently instructed as to what baptism is. There are three ways of receiving it: the baptism of water; the baptism of blood (that of martyrs who confessed their faith while still catechumens); and baptism of desire. Baptism can be explicit. Many times in Africa I heard one of our catechumens say to me, “Father, baptize me straightaway because if I die before you come again, I shall go to hell.” I told him, “No, if you have no mortal sin on your conscience and if you desire baptism, then you already have the grace in you…”[8]


-Lionel Andrades

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NOVEMBER 8, 2017


Books of Archbishop Lefebvre are obsolete now : so are the writings on Vatican Council II by Chris Ferrara and Roberto dei Mattei

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/books-of-archbishop-lefebvre-are.html


NOVEMBER 11, 2017


No denial from SSPX : Books of Archbishop Lefebvre are obsolete now : so are the writings on Vatican Council II by Chris Ferrara and Roberto dei Mattei

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/no-denial-books-of-archbishop-lefebvre.html



 NOVEMBER 11, 2017


SSPX continues to calumniate Fr. Leonard Feeney : doctrinal ignorance prevents them from using Catholic churches on Sunday.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/sspx-continues-to-calumniate-fr-leonard.html


JANUARY 18, 2018

St.Benedict Centers could affirm Vatican Council II with Feeneyite theology and the SSPX could affirm Vatican Council II and EENS with Feeneyite and not Cushingite theology   http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/stbenedict-centers-could-affirm-vatican.html


JANUARY 7, 2018

Catholics at large who discern must help the SSPX members to understand  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/catholics-at-large-who-discern-must.html


AUGUST 19, 2016


No denial from the SSPX: dogmas and doctrine changed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/no-denial-from-sspx-dogmas-and-doctrine.html



MAY 20, 2016


SSPX is in doctrinal error like the contemporary magisterium Steve Skojec

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/sspx-is-in-doctrinal-error-like.html





JANUARY 12, 2016


Doctrinal error within the SSPX too ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/doctrinal-error-within-sspx-too.html



JANUARY 12, 2016


Pope Pius XII, Cardinals Ottaviani, Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre were factually wrong

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-pius-xii-cardinals.html















































JANUARY 3, 2018



The SSPX bishops like Archbishop Lefebvre interpret Vatican Council II(LG 16 etc) as a rupture with EENS and so they reject Vatican Council II.So the Vatican Council II which they understand, is always a rupture with EENS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/the-sspx-bishops-like-archbishop.html
JANUARY 3, 2018

For Abp Marcel Lefebvre and Bp Bernard Fellay there are physically known cases of the baptism of desire

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/for-abp-marcel-lefebvre-and-bp-bernard.html
JANUARY 3, 2018  I have cited many cases where Bishop Fellay inferred that there are physically known cases when the reference is to only hypothetical and unknown people in our reality e.g Lumen Gentium 8 (subsist it)http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/i-have-cited-many-cases-where-bishop.ht
































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Pro-lifers protest as Ottawa begins enforcing ‘abortion zone’ law

Pro-lifers protest as Ottawa begins enforcing ‘abortion zone’ law

OTTAWA, February 2, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) — About 40 pro-life advocates carrying signs that read “Aid to women ends here”; “Free speech ends here” and “Abortion is killing” protested against Bill 163 in Ottawa on Thursday, the day the Ontario Liberal bill came into effect.
Known as the “bubble zone” law, Bill 163 bans all pro-life witness, including showing disapproval of abortion, within 50 meters of the province’s eight abortion centers, and within 150 meters of the homes of abortion providers.
Individuals convicted of a first offence under Bill 163 can be fined up to $5,000 and/or jailed up to six months. These punishments double for a second and subsequent convictions.
While Twitter lit up with laudatory messages to Attorney General Yasir Naqvi for constraining “crazy anti-abortion protestors,” Campaign Life Coalition urged pro-life advocates not to abandon mothers and children threatened by abortion in the face of this “totalitarian” bill.
“We must remember that although this law infringes upon our rights and freedoms, the real victims here continue to be the pre-born children, their moms, and families,” Campaign Life said in a January 31 advisory on the bill. “Women need to hear our message of truth and support. We must not abandon them!”
The Ottawa protest was “very peaceful, enough to show a resistance to this government that we were not going to take this bubble zone demarcation lying down,” Johanne Brownrigg, CLC Ottawa political lobbyist, told LifeSiteNews.
The pro-life advocates at Thursday’s rally stayed outside the Ottawa “abortion zone,” now marked by signs, Campaign Life tweeted:
Attorney General Naqvi tabled the Safe Access to Abortion Services Act on October 4, 2017, and it passed three weeks later when all three major parties agreed to fast-track it. MPP Jack MacLaren of the Trillium Party cast the sole vote against it.
Naqvi, who is also MP for Ottawa Center, brought in the bill at the request of Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson. He in turn had been lobbied by staff of the Morgentaler abortion facility and Planned Parenthood Ottawa, who repeatedly accused pro-life witnesses of harassing and intimidating women outside the abortion center.
One allegation Naqvi has repeated, as have the media, is that a pro-life protester reportedly spat on a woman.
But longtime pro-life advocate and former RCMP security and intelligence officer Frank Barrett says that is not true. “The spitting business was all made up. There was no evidence, no proof, no arrests,” he told LifeSiteNews in an earlier interview.
However, on at least one occasion, a young man entered the Ottawa abortion facility and sprinkled holy water around, Barrett said.
Moreover, Ottawa police reports obtained by pro-life blogger Patricia Maloney show no reported injuries and no charges laid from 2010 to 2017 as a result of police attendance at the Morgentaler abortion facility.
Indeed, police attendance at the Bank Street abortion center dropped 33.6 percent in the period between 2014 to 2017 from the period between 2010 and 2013, Maloney reported in her blog Run With Life.
However, Naqvi, who held a press conference with Mayor Watson on Thursday to announce the Bill 163 had come into effect, retweeted several messages, thanking him and reinforcing the Liberal narrative. That included one from “Ladies Who Lunch Ottawa” describing pro-lifers as “crazy.” ...
Campaign Life consistently repudiates the narrative that pro-lifers “intimidate” women, tweeting:
Indeed, the evidence shows pro-life advocates outside abortion centers actually help women, pointed out rally speaker Debbie Duval of Campaign Life Coalition Ottawa.
“We have documented cases of Canadian women who have changed their minds about having an abortion after speaking to pro-lifers and taking their literature during peaceful demonstrations,” she told the rally.
“This is proof that the pro-life information is desired and appreciated by many women entering these facilities. They need to know there are other options,” Duval added.
“Campaign Life Coalition calls on upon Kathleen Wynne and the Ontario liberal government to repeal Bill 163,” she said.
The Liberal “bubble zone” law is “an unacceptable assault on rights and freedoms.”
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Here is the full text of Campaign Life Coalition’s advisory for pro-life advocates, which urges them to action, including contacting MPPs:
The totalitarian bubble-zone law is in force as of today, February 1, 2018. Here are five things you should know and do:
1  All eight private abortion facilities in Ontario have an automatic 50 metre bubble-zone . The following activities within these zones will be illegal (see the list here). We encourage you to continue your peaceful pro-life outreach, but when you do, please observe the law and stand outside of the bubble-zone.
2 Unlike the private abortion facilities, hospitals and pharmacies will have to apply for a bubble-zone. Applications for bubble zones opened today, which means it might still take some time before these locations get a bubble-zone. If you are a prayer vigil organizer or you regularly witness to life, contact your local police authorities to discuss the bubble-zone. If possible, meet with the staff sergeant at the abortion facility, hospital, pharmacy etc. where you plan to witness to life and have them show you the exact boundaries of the bubble-zone.
3 Inform your family, friends, and faith communities about this bubble-zone law and encourage them to join you in speaking out against it. A quick and easy way to do this is by contacting your MP today. Find your elected official by clicking here.
4 Don’t be discouraged. Look for new, creative ways to continue getting the pro-life message out there. We must remember that although this law infringes upon our rights and freedoms, the real victims here continue to be the pre-born children, their moms, and families. Women need to hear our message of truth and support. We must not abandon them!
5 Pray. Pray. Pray. Continue to pray for an end to abortion in our nation. Ultimately, this is God’s battle, and He has already won. But in the meantime, let’s get to work!

 https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pro-lifers-protest-as-ottawa-begins-enforcing-abortion-zone-law