Saturday, July 10, 2021

Bishop Robert Barron and the Word on Fire apologists, America magazine of the Jesuits, the National Catholic Reporter,The Tablet U.K, Massimo Faggioli and Commonweal magazine, are still interpreting Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents with a fake premise to create a false rupture with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc).Without the error they would be Catholic ‘extremists’, supporting Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).So they have decided to continue with the error, even though academically it is unethical and on the media a lie.

 

Bishop Robert Barron and the Word on Fire apologists, America magazine of the Jesuits, the National Catholic Reporter,The Tablet U.K, Massimo Faggioli and Commonweal magazine, are still interpreting Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents with a fake premise to create a false rupture with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc).Without the error they would be Catholic ‘extremists’, supporting Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).So they have decided to continue with the error, even though academically it is unethical and on the media a lie.-Lionel Andrades


Would it be a misuse of office for a judge of the Vatican Court to confuse LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to real people in 1965-2021, saved without faith and baptism, outside the Catholic Church, who are practical exceptions to the exclusivist interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the rest of Catholic Tradition, as held by numerous Catholics today ?

Would it be a misuse of office for a judge of the Vatican Court to confuse LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to real people in 1965-2021, saved without faith and baptism, outside the Catholic Church, who are practical exceptions to the exclusivist interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the rest of Catholic Tradition, as held by numerous Catholics today ?

Where are the examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church for a judge, to reject Catholic Tradition ?When a person is saved he or she is in Heaven and is known only to God and the people who are there in Heaven.We can accept in faith a St. Emerentiana, as being in Heaven, but who could have seen her there without the baptism of water? The present two popes and the cardinals and bishops reject Catholic Tradition with their reasoning which really is innovative and a lie.-Lionel Andrades


I interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise . So I interpret LG 8, LG 14. LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being only hypothetical and theoretical.They do not refer to real people in 2021.

 

I  interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise . So I interpret LG 8, LG 14. LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being only hypothetical and theoretical.They do not refer to real people in 2021.

I accept the baptism of desire(BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) interpreted without the fake premise.So they are only theoretical and speculative cases in 1949-2021.They do not refer to personally known non Catholics  saved outside the Church.

Since I interpret the baptism of desire and invincible  ignorance rationally there are no exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors. In principle there cannot be exceptions when invisible cases are seen as just being invisible.Unknown people cannot contradict an ecumenism of return in the present times.


Since I also interpret LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, rationally, without confusing what is invisible as being visible, I can accept the Catechism of Pope Pius X  on 24Q and 27Q.

There are no exceptions for me for 24 Q, and 27 Q among the hypothetical cases of Vatican Council II (LG 8, LG 16 etc) and invisible cases of BOD and I.I.

Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 would not contradict the Catechism of the Council of Trent when it affirms the dogma EENS.Since BOD and I.I and LG 8 etc refer to only theoretical cases only. 

There would be no confusion when this Catechism of the Council of Trent mentions ‘the desire thereof’.

Defacto (practically)  all need to be Catholic for salvation.

De jure (in principle) there could be hypothetical cases, possibilities of salvation outside the Church known only to God,and which exist only in our human mind.

The Council Fathers at Vatican Council II, at least some of them, confused what was dejure as being defacto and so taught that outside the Church there is salvation.- Lionel Andrades

If the FSSP does not use the New Theology as part of the New Evangelisation, there will be tension.They would be going back to EENS with no exceptions.They could be suppressed like the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre delle Redenzione, of Catanzaro, Italy.

 
Movemento Apostolico -Incontro del Lunedi  12 ottobre 2020

The issue of Evangelisation has not been settled between Bishop Roland Minnerath and the FSSP priests in Dijon, France.The FSSP, like the SSPX, are  going back to Tradition and side stepping Vatican Council II, interpreted with a fake premise. So the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX  and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q,27Q) could be as valid for the FSSP  as Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.This all could be meaningless for the bishop and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican.

Bishop Roland Minnerath and the diocesan priests  accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the fake premise, inference and conclusion.So the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX which supports the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation, is made obsolete for him.

The bishop has written books on this subject.He now supports a theology of religions, in his proclamation of Jesus. It is Jesus without the necessity of formal membership in the Catholic Church. His concept of Hell and mortal sin would also be vague and confusing. Catholics in the the diocese will have lost their identity.

Bishop Minnerath creates division in the Church with his New Theology, which comes from the false premise used in the 1949  Letter of the Holy Office(LOHO), relative to Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston.For him extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) has exceptions.

If the FSSP does not use the New Theology as part of the New Evangelisation, there will be tension.They would be going back to EENS with no exceptions.They could be suppressed like the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre delle Redenzione, of Catanzaro, Italy.

Bishop Minnerath could not tell the non Christians in Dijon, that they must accept Jesus in the Catholic Church and convert to avoid the fires of Hell. This is not possible.Since the bishop interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise and so creates exceptions for the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc. The FSSP can evangelize non Christians, unlike the bishop, if the FSSP would continue to reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the fake premise.They would also have to reject the Syllabus of Errors , interpreted with the same fake premise. So there would no more be  exceptions  for them for the Catechism of Pope Pius X at 24Q and 24Q in Vatican Council II. They would be in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Church in a way it is not possible for Bishop Minnerath.-Lionel Andrades

 



 JULY 8, 2021

The CDF supports the heretical LOHO and has suppressed a lay community citing 'doctrinal superficialities'

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-cdf-supports-heretical-loho-and-has.html


JULY 8, 2021

Bishop Roland Minneath and the diocesan priests interpreted Vatican Council II with 'the false premise instead of the rational premise', chose 'the right hand side column instead of the left hand side column' and also chose 'the red passages being exceptions to the blue instead of the red passages not being exceptions to the blue'.The FSSP priests make the same mistake

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/bishop-roland-minneath-and-diocesan.html

The issue of Evangelisation has not been settled between Bishop Roland Minnerath and the FSSP priests in Dijon, France.

 







The issue of Evangelisation has not been settled between Bishop Roland Minnerath and the FSSP priests in Dijon, France.The FSSP, like the SSPX, are  going back to Tradition and side stepping Vatican Council II, interpreted with a fake premise. So the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX  and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q,27Q) could be as valid for the FSSP  as Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.This all could be meaningless for the bishop and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican.

Bishop Roland Minnerath and the diocesan priests  accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the fake premise, inference and conclusion.So the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX which supports the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation, is made obsolete for him.

The bishop has written books on this subject.He now supports a theology of religions, in his proclamation of Jesus. It is Jesus without the necessity of formal membership in the Catholic Church. His concept of Hell and mortal sin would also be vague and confusing. Catholics in the the diocese will have lost their identity.

Bishop Minnerath creates division in the Church with his New Theology, which comes from the false premise used in the 1949  Letter of the Holy Office(LOHO), relative to Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston.For him extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) has exceptions.

If the FSSP does not use the New Theology as part of the New Evangelisation, there will be tension.They would be going back to EENS with no exceptions.They could be suppressed like the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre delle Redenzione, of Catanzaro, Italy.

Bishop Minnerath could not tell the non Christians in Dijon, that they must accept Jesus in the Catholic Church and convert to avoid the fires of Hell. This is not possible.Since the bishop interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise and so creates exceptions for the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc. The FSSP can evangelize non Christians, unlike the bishop, if the FSSP would continue to reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the fake premise.They would also have to reject the Syllabus of Errors , interpreted with the same fake premise. So there would no more be  exceptions  for them for the Catechism of Pope Pius X at 24Q and 24Q in Vatican Council II. They would be in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Church in a way it is not possible for Bishop Minnerath.-Lionel Andrades

 


If the SSPX, FSSP and Franciscans of the Immaculate address the issue of the fake premise and so reject the New Theology, probably they too would be suppressed like the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre della Redenzionene.

 

Video: Consecration of women of the suppressed community in Catanzaro,Italy.During the prayers they would pray for Pope Francis and the ecclesiastics of the Church.They took the three vows before the Archbishop of Catanzaro.

 The Congregation for the Laity and the Congregation for the Evangelisation of Peoples is approved by the Left, so the communities in Catanzaro, South Italy suppressed , could have got have got into trouble by rejecting Vatican Council II, interpreted with the fake premise, and gone back to Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc). This is even though they attend Holy Mass in Italian and not Latin.

So the two lay communities, including consecrated  women, would not be politically correct  with the Left which approves the false  premise, inference and conclusion in the interpretation of Magisterial documents.So new salvation doctrines  have been created which are approved by the bishops, cardinals and Pope Francis.

The whole issue has been kept secret in the Church and there are no details given out on the specific errors of the communities, so that they could be avoided in future. An issue seems the New Evangelisation based upon the false premise.

Similarly a Charismatic group in Malta was abruptly suppressed some months back,   with no details made in public.It could be assumed that their theology was not liberal and so not legally correct with the Left.

Come to think of it, if they were really inspired by the Holy Spirit, they would  not use the fake premise, inference and conclusion of Pope Francis  and Pope Benedict.

The New Theology has been approved by the ecclesiastics but it is not inspired by the Holy Spirit, since it is built on a fake premise.So it cannot be Magisterial.The popes, since Pius XII have over looked the error.

So the suppression of the two communities of Catanzero,with details not given out, could be a sign of their authenticity, as when for example, Padre Pio was silenced by the ecclesiastics, officially.

The Decree against the lay communities, approved by Pope Francis and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF),indicates, that all future approved, lay and religious communities, will have to be Christocentric and not ecclesiocentric. They will have to break with Catholic Tradition on faith and morals. They have to be anti-Christ, as Christ and His Church was known to the Magisterium over the centuries.

Interestingly, the lay communities suppressed accepted Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) 1949, just like the ecclesiastics, liberals and traditionalists. The theology of Vatican Council II is based upon the fake premise of the LOHO, which creates the New Theology, used by even the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) and the sedevancantists (CMRI,MHFM etc).This is unknown to them.So in a confused way Bishop Bernard Fellay could say that the SSPX accepts 90% of Vatican Council II and at the other times that the SSPX rejects the Council.No one would address the issue of the fake premise which creates ‘the heremeneutic of rupture’ with Tradition(Syllabus of Errors etc).

If the SSPX, FSSP and Franciscans of the Immaculate address the issue of the fake premise and so reject the New Theology, probably they too would be suppressed like the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre della Redenzione.-Lionel Andrades

https://www.youtube.com/user/movimentoapostolico/videos