Monday, June 16, 2014

Catholic religious contradict Bishop Fellay : Nostra Aetate is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Catholic religious contradict Bishop Fellay : Nostra Aetate is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 Bishop Bernard Fellay  mistakes Nostra Aetate 2 as being an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Tradition. For him those saved with ' a ray of the Truth'(NA 2) are VISIBLE. So it is an exception.It is the same with UR 3, LG 16 etc.
Here are Catholic religious who contradict Bishop Bernard Fellay who has made a doctrinal error.They are saying there is nothing in Vatican Council II which contradicts extra ecclesiam nulla salus.For them NA 2 etc are INVISIBLE. They are known only to God.
DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html#links
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors
REDEMPTORIST PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF NOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS DE FIDE AND NOT CONTRADICTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II- Fr. Nevus Marcello O.P http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/cantate-domino-council-of-florence-on.html
BRAZILIAN PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
-Lionel Andrades
June 15, 2014
SSPX considers Nostra Aetate an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Catechism of Pope Pius X-this is heresy and irrationality http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/sspx-consider-nostra-aetate-exception.html

Bishop Athanasius Schneider contradicted by Catholic religious

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has said Vatican Council II is 'ambigous'. This is because he mistakes Nostra Aetate 2 as being an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Tradition. For him those saved with ' a ray of the Truth'(NA 2) are VISIBLE. So it is an exception.It is the same with UR 3, LG 16 etc.
Here are Catholic religious who contradict Bishop Athanasius.They are saying there is nothing in Vatican Council II which contradicts extra ecclesiam nulla salus.For them NA 2 etc are INVISIBLE. They are known only to  God.
 
DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html#links
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors
REDEMPTORIST PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF NOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS DE FIDE AND NOT CONTRADICTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II- Fr. Nevus Marcello O.P http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/cantate-domino-council-of-florence-on.html
BRAZILIAN PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
 
-Lionel Andrades

Who Edited the Tape?

from
http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/06/who-edited-the-tape/
The big question is: Who edited the tape?
It had to have been done by someone in the Vatican, or by someone employed by the Vatican. So the Imamgate scandal has just become even more scandalous.
To recap:
 
1. The Pope invited an imam to the Vatican to say prayers at an interfaith event.
2. Departing from a pre-released script, the imam prayed in Arabic for Allah to grant victory over the unbelievers.
3. The Vatican denied that the imam said anything of that nature.
4. The Vatican altered a video of the event to remove any evidence of the damning clause.
 
ritamalik on said:
By the way telling that I am not to be trusted because I am an ex-muslim is really nothing but ad hominem attack! I said check the dictionary and see if the word نصر which is the word in question means victory or not. You can check that on your own. I also said that the video clip on their page was censored and I was right since now I have found and posted the link to the video of the same event uncensored in my comment above and you can see that I told the truth. The last part of Imam’s recitation was missing from the first clip but not from the second which I posted. I did not make anything up or try to “strike back at the oppressor” or anything like that! I happen to know a decent level of Arabic and know Sura 2 and quite a lot of Quran actually so I could be of help. Now my muslim background helped me in this. Those who never have been muslim before usually don’t know the Quran that well even if they speak some Arabic. I was glad to be of help. I understand that you want to be sure and not be duped with someone who might want to exaggerate or have some ignoble agenda. But as I said you can check my links above and also look up in an Arabic dictionary to check and see if I was right. If you check them and find me wanting or misleading then by all means warn people about me. But if you don’t have the time, skills, or interest to check what I have said I would appreciate it if you also refrain from spreading unfounded doubts about my motives and character. Thank you!

Egypt: Christian teacher gets six months jail for insulting Islam

Egypt: Christian teacher gets six months jail for insulting Islam

By on Jun 15, 2014 
Demiana EmadThe Muslim Brotherhood may be out of power, but clearly numerous Egyptians share their sensibilities. This case is reminiscent of the many blasphemy cases in Pakistan that were clearly exercises in harassing and intimidating that country’s non-Muslims. The al-Sisi government would do well to quash such prosecutions, but if it did, it might end up being toppled from power itself.
“Coptic teacher gets 6 months in jail for ‘insulting Islam,’” Ahram Online, June 15, 2014:
Demiana Emad, a 23-year-old social studies teacher, was arrested on 9 May 2013 after the head of the parents’ association of Sheikh Sultan Primary School in Luxor filed a complaint accusing her of insulting Islam.
In June 2013, Emad was sentenced to pay a LE100,000 fine. Sunday’s jail sentence was ordered by the court in response to an appeal filed by the defendant on last year’s fine.
According to a year-old report by the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights (EIPR), Emad didn’t insult Islam, only “presented a comparison between religions in ancient, middle and modern ages as mentioned in the curriculum”.
The report, which warned of similar cases becoming “a tool to oppress minorities“, added that during investigations the majority of Emad’s students denied that she had insulted Islam in her class.
Charges of insulting religion go back to the regime of ousted president Hosni Mubarak, widely used then as a pretext to crack down on political activists. However, occurrences of the charge significantly rose under the rule of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) and Islamist president Mohamed Morsi, who was removed from power last July.
A report issued by the EIPR last September revealed that since the 25 January 2011 revolution until the end of 2012, a total of 63 citizens, both Muslims and Christians, were charged with insulting religion.
Article 98 of Egypt’s penal code says anyone convicted of offending religion in any form can face up to six years in prison.
 http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/egypt-christian-teacher-gets-six-months-jail-for-insulting-islam

The Immaculate’s Committee appeal to the Pope

June 15, 2014
Here you are the appeal from the Immaculate’s Committee to the Pope:
“With Pope Francis in favour of the Franciscan Friars of Immaculate Founders ”
Prayer morning to support Franciscan Friars of Immaculate Founders – Rome, Largo John XXIII, 9-12 a.m., June 14, 2014.
The Immaculate Committee – made up and supported by laity belonging to Mission of the Immaculate Mediatrix, Franciscan Third Order of the Immaculate and FFI and FSI relatives – has organized with delegates from several italian cities a prayer morning, on Sat. 14th of June, from 9 to 12 a.m., in Rome, Largo John XXIII, at the area between Castel Sant’Angelo Gardens and Piazza Pia.
The event is completely dedicated to Pope Francis, may He show us His merciful and paternal sight.
We as laity are broken-hearted for the suspension of the activities of the circles where we were spiritually trained by religious loyal to the Seraphic Marian charism.
Against the words of the few that inconsistently allege Fr. Manelli to be mentally ill and weak while at the same time skillful in maneuvering furtive schisms in lefebvrist disguise, lots of people like us witness his unswerving loyalty to the Church and Holy Father, as it is possible to check by reading his copious writings. In response to the thin group that self-anointedly wore the clothes of “saviours” of Holy Mother Church from imaginary schisms, building contradictory theories to support their allegations, we answer back with this prayer event, relying on mercy and openness to dialogue of Pope Francis.
The real issue at stake is not just to shut down a religious institute, it is to forbid religious and lay to continue to live their spiritual life according to the specificity of the Franciscan Marian Charism. Therefore we can’t stand aside and watch, and we appeal to the Holy Father to beg Him to give back to the people of God Fr. Stefano M. Manelli and Fr. Gabriele M. Pellettieri, so that they can offer their ministerial service, freely from the influence of those that don’t identify with their founders.
The male branch of the Institute has been affected by an unabridgeable gap. We are far from any judgement on personal choices, and with this prayer demonstration we ask the beloved Pope Francis to grant us His Holy Blessing to keep on in the line traced by the Seraphic Marian Path and publicly profess the Marian Vow, with approval and in perfect communion with Holy Roman Church, allowing everybody to follow the charism he prefers.
We trust in the Holy Father intervention, in His courage and wisdom coming from His ministry, placed in defense of the Truth. The very Truth we want to pursue constantly no matter what risks and renunciations we’ll have to face. With confidence we put the hope of our hearts in the hands of the Pontiff.

 http://pray4thefriars.wordpress.com/2014/06/15/


Make an announcement : Say the Franciscans of the Immaculate affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus in accord with Vatican Council II.Ask the CDF to do the same.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/make-announcement-say-franciscans-of.html#links

 

Why do you use the words 'visible' and 'invisible' ?: It is because others are using it unknown to them

Why do you use the words 'visible' and 'invisible' I am asked.
I refer to invisible and visible cases since most people are unaware. They are  using the concept 'visible' when talking about Catholic salvation. It is they who first use the irrationality of  visible exceptions. So I explain  the difference between visible and invisible exceptions.
They tell me that all do not need to enter the Catholic Church but only those who know about Jesus and the Church. In other words those who know and do not know are VISIBLE to us on earth. We know these cases in real life.
Then they say that every one needs to enter the Catholic Church except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. In other words these cases are VISIBLE to us in real life. We know cases in 2014 saved with the baptism of desire etc . So they are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Then they say every one does not need to enter the Church and all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church. What has all who are saved, are saved through Jesus and the Church, have to do with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus? Again it is inferred subtly that there are known cases saved without the baptism of water in other religions. They are VISIBLE to us . So all do not need to enter the Church for salvation.
Whenever someone says there are exceptions he is implying that there are VISIBLE exceptions.
They say Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for denying the baptism of desire. In other words, he would not accept a VISIBLE baptism of desire.
They say Nostra Aetate 2 is a revolution in the Catholic Church since it contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. A person can be saved without the baptism of water and with ' a ray of the Truth' . In other words ' a ray of the Truth' is a VISIBLE exception.If it was not VISIBLE it would obviously not be an exception.
Similarly they say UR 3 has changed the Catholic Church's teachings on ecumenism. Now a Protestant can be saved in 'imperfect communion with the Church'. In other words these cases are VISIBLE in the present times, we can name some one saved in imperfect communion with the Church.
They ask  why do you use the VISIBLE and INVISIBLE distinction ?
It is because just about every one is using it  and doing so irrationally and unaware of it.-Lionel Andrades