Friday, February 7, 2014

Franciscans of the Immaculate seminarians have to accept objective error at Pontifical Universities : approved by Fr. Fidenzio Volpi

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 The Manelli family members  of the Third Order of the Franciscans of the Immaculate (F.I), lay members, must observe that the Apostolic Commissioner to the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate , Fr.P.Fidenzio Volpi alongwith  Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz  the President  of the Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life  have sent FFI seminarians to study at the Pontifical Universities in Rome. These universities will not allow these young Catholic seminarians to affirm implicit, invisible for us baptism of desire along with the literal and traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They will not be able to proclaim  the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also to proclaim invisible for us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. They will have to accept  that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible to us on earth, we know these cases in real life. This is a lie.
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 It is based upon this lie,  that all seminarians and children of Third Order members of the FFI , have to assume that Vatican Council II (LG 16- saved in invincible ignorance etc) contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.


According to Italian law , intentional falsehood is a punishable crime,  Mariarosaria De Mucci, lawyer for the Manelli family  must know. The Pontifical Universities have been informed about this error over the years. They still continue with it.They are intentionally teaching a lie and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi has sent FFI students to study at these universities.
 
Could the Manelli family  ask their lawyer to ask Fr.Fidenzio Volpi , the Rectors of these Pontifical Universities and the  Congregation for Catholic Education  if they affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or do they assume there are visible exceptions known to them in 2014 and these exceptions are mentioned in Vatican Council II . Will this irrationality be imposed on the FFI students whose seminary has been closed by Fr.Fidenzio Volpi.
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Fr.Fidenzio Volpi OFM Cap, the Apostolic Commissioner to the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (FFI) is forcing the FFI stduents , including the Manelli family who are Third Order members, to accept a lie and proclaim a falsehood.
 
The brothers and sisters of Fr.Stefano Manelli FFI, the founder of the community, could ask their lawyer Mariarosaria De Mucci, to clarify if this is true.
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The Manelli family, religious and lay persons, associated with the FFI , and the seminarians now transferred to the pontifical universities have to accept the following:
1. All salvation (LG 16- saved in invincible ignorance, UR 3- imperfect communion with the Church etc) and condemnation (LG 14- those who know and do not enter the Church)  referred to in Vatican Council II is explicit, known, visible in the flesh and defacto in 2014.This is a lie.
 
2. The dead now in Heaven saved with  invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire etc are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is a lie. It is a fact that the dead are not visible.
 
3.Implicit for us baptism of desire is explicit for us baptism of desire. Invisible for us being saved in imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3) is visible for us on earth.This is false and irrational.
 
4.So the FFI seminarians have to affirm that Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since they can see the dead-saved. This is a lie.
 
5. They are also forced to make a Profession of Faith with the Nicene Creed. When they say 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin' they must mean three or more baptisms. This includes known, visible baptisms of desire and blood and those of imperfect communion with the Church, seeds of the Word (AG 11) etc. This is absurd. This is all irrational and not the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
-Lionel Andrades


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Third Order members of the Franciscans of the Immaculate clarify Cardinal Braz and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi's position : all religious communities must accept implicit or explicit salvation

The Manelli family members  of the Third Order of the Franciscans of the Immaculate (F.I), lay members, must observe that the Apostolic Commissioner to the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate , Fr.P.Fidenzio Volpi alongwith  Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz and Archbishop José Rodríguez Carballo, the President and Secretary respectively of the Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life are not allowing Catholics to affirm implicit, invisible for us baptism of desire along with the literal and traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
Fr. Fidenzio Volpi's religious community the Franciscans  (Capuchins) are not permitted to proclaim  the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also to proclaim invisible for us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.
 
Instead the Franciscan(Cap.) and all Catholic religious communities  must accept that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible to us on earth, we know these cases in real life. This is a lie.
 
It is a lie being  forced upon on all religious communities including the Franciscans of the Immaculate religious and  Third Order members.This is a lie which would be imposed also on Fr.Stefano Manelli, the founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate.
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 Based upon this lie, lawyer Mariarosaria De Mucci, must know that all Catholic religious communities including that of Fr.Fidenzio Volpi, have to assume that Vatican Council II (LG 16- saved in invincible ignorance etc) contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
According to Italian law , intentional falsehood is a punishable crime.
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Also, all the Third Order  members associated with the religious communities in the Catholic Church, must accept this view which is contrary to the Principle of Non Contradiction. Since for Fr.Volpi the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance is explicit  and visible in the flesh this would contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which says all need to enter the Church visibly (explicitly). It would also contradict Vatican Council II which says all need faith and baptism,(which is explicit) for salvation (AG 7). This would also be a contradiction of  the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846, Dominus Iesus 20 etc. This violation of the Principle of Non Contradiction has to be accepted by members of the Third Order of the Franciscans of the Immaculate.
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All members of the Franciscans of the Immaculate must have the right to be rational and truthful.
 
They must have the right to affirm the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus along with salvation mentioned in Vatican Council II (LG 16, UR 3, LG 8 etc)  as being implicit and invisible for us and not explicit, visible in the flesh.They must have the right to say that they cannot see the dead who are now saved in Heaven.
 
All the religious communities, Dominicans, Jesuits, Carmelites , Franciscans, must have the right to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus alongwith salvation or condemnation (LG 14- those who know and do not enter) as being implicit for us and explicit only for God.
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So could the Manelli family members confirm that:
 
1. They affirm Vatican Council II along with the traditional, centuries-old interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation. The text of the dogma does not mention any exceptions. Neither do they know of any exceptions in 2014.
 
2. Also could they ask their lawyer to ask Fr.Fidenzio Volpi  and Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz if they affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or do they assume there are visible exceptions known to them in 2014 and these exceptions are mentioned in Vatican Council II .
 
Could the members of the Third Order  and especially the Manelli family members clarify this issue personally or ask their lawyer to do so.
 
According to Canon Law Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi  need to affirm all the teachings of the Catholic Church.
1. Explicit for us baptism of desire is not a teaching of the Catholic Church.
2. It is not allowed to deny an ex cathedra dogma, extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which Pope Pius XII called an 'infallible teaching' (Letter of the Holy Officwe 1949).
-Lionel Andrades

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