If Pope Francis does not interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and if Pope Benedict does interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, admitting that he had made a mistake all these years, what would be the reaction of followers of the two popes ?

 If Pope Francis does not interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and if Pope Benedict does interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, admitting that he had made a mistake all these years, what would be the reaction of followers of the two popes ?. - Lionel Andrades

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If Pope Benedict announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise and that in the past he had made a mistake what will be Pope Francis' reaction

 

If Pope Benedict announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise and that in the past he had made a mistake what will be Pope Francis' reaction. - Lionel Andrades

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If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise then the teaching of theology to Catholics and non Catholics changes

 Non Christians are studying Catholic theology at the post graduate level based upon Pope Benedict's false New Theology.With the false premise exceptions are created to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine.So with the New Theology the non Catholic is taught that he does not need to enter the Catholic Church as a member but it is necessary to only believe in Jesus, even in a  vague way and like in Protestant denominations.

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise then the teaching of theology to Catholics and non Catholics changes.-Lionel Andrades

Roberto dei Mattei interprets Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with Pope Benedict's false New Theology and then issues statements against the New Theology

 Roberto dei Mattei interprets Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with Pope Benedict's false New Theology and then issues statements against the New Theology. -Lionel Andrades

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Fr.Reto Nay and the Gloria TV Staff interpret Vatican Council II like the liberal Swiss bishops. They apply the New Theology to Council. So there emerges a rupture with Tradition

 

Fr.Reto Nay and the Gloria TV Staff interpret Vatican Council II like the liberal Swiss bishops. They apply the New Theology to Council. So there emerges a rupture with Tradition.

The New Theology is created with the false premise. Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14 etc are assumed to be visible and not visible cases of non Catholic saves outside the Church. So they are make objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.

Without the New Theology Fr. Nato Ray would not be able to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc ). -Lionel Andrades

Jimmy Akin and Louie Verrecchio two sides of the same coin

Jimmy Akins is a liberal Cushingite and Louie Verrecchio is a Lefbvrist Cushinigte. They both have the New Theology in common. It is created with a false premise.

Without the false premise there is no theological basis for Akins liberalism.

Without the false premise there is no theological basis for Verrecchio's interpretation of Vatican Council II,creating a rupture with Tradition, which he then rejects.-Lionel Andrades

When Pope Francis says he has not shifted a millimetre or centimetre from Vatican Council II he is referring to Vatican Council II interpreted with Pope Benedict's controversial New Theology. It only works when a false premise and inference are used. Pope Francis can interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and then say that he has not shifted a centimetre from the Council text

When Pope Francis says he has not shifted a millimetre or centimetre from Vatican Council II he is referring to Vatican Council II interpreted with Pope Benedict's controversial New Theology. It only works when a false premise and inference are used.

 Pope Francis can interpret Vatican Council II without   the false premise and then say that he has not shifted a centimetre from the Council text. -Lionel Andrades

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Cardinal Angelo Donatis at the Rome Vicariate is expected to affirm the Catholic Faith. He is not there for window dressing. Similarly Mons. Libanori who intervened in the Ferrara-Commacchio diocese case of the young priests who were transferred, is expected to affirm the Catholic Faith in public. They must affirm Vatican Council II interpreted without a false premise and in harmony with Catholic Tradition

 

Cardinal Angelo Donatis at the Rome Vicariate  is expected to affirm the Catholic Faith. He is not there for window dressing.

Similarly Mons. Libanori, at the Rome Vicariate,  who intervened in the Ferrara-Commacchio diocese case of the young priests who were transferred, is expected to affirm the Catholic Faith in public.

They must affirm Vatican Council II interpreted without a false premise and in harmony with Catholic Tradition. -Lionel Andrades

Parish Priests and Rectors must no longer intepret Vatican Council II with a false premise. If they cannot affirm the Council rationally they should quit their office.Similarly inter religious dialogue must be based upon Vatican Council II interpreted without the false New Theology

 Parish Priests and Rectors must no longer intepret Vatican Council II with a false premise. If they cannot affirm the Council rationally they should quit their office.Similarly inter religious dialogue must be based upon Vatican Council II interpreted without the false New Theology. Catholics must be informed on how a false premise was used to create a false New Theology. -Lionel Andrades

Inter religious dialogue and ecumenism must be held knowing that outside the Catholic Church there is no known salvation. This is the teaching of Vatican Council II (AG 7) interpreted without the false premise (LG 8, LG 16 etc are not exceptions to AG 7 and extra ecclesiam nulla salus )

 Inter religious dialogue and ecumenism must be held knowing that outside the Catholic Church there is no known salvation. This is the teaching of Vatican Council II (AG 7) interpreted without the false premise (LG 8, LG 16 etc are not exceptions to AG 7 and extra ecclesiam nulla salus). -Lionel Andrades

If Pope Benedict and Pope Francis announce that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise we will have doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church. Now the two popes are promoting division.

 If Pope Benedict and Pope Francis announce that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise we will have doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church. Now the two popes are promoting division. Their liberalism, approved by the Left, creates division with conservative Catholics.The false premise was used by the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II and during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO). - Lionel Andrades

If Pope Francis would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise he would indicate that the Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) made an objective mistake in 1949 and there really were no known exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)

 If Pope Francis would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise he would indicate that the Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO)  made an objective mistake in 1949 and there really were no known exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Fr. Leonard Feeney  and the St. Benedict Center  were correct and the LOHO and the Jesuits at Boston College were wrong. -Lionel Andrades

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise it will mean the Archbishop-Secretaries of the CDF, Morandi and Di Noia, made a mistake in their communication with Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior at the St. Benedict Center, N.H, USA.They interpreted the Catechism of the Catholic Church(n.847-848) with the false premise

 

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise it will mean the Archbishop-Secretaries of the CDF, Morandi and Di Noia, made a mistake in their communication with Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior at the St. Benedict Center, N.H, USA.They interpreted the Catechism of the Catholic Church(n.847-848) with the false premise.The mistake is posted on the website of the Diocese of Manchester, USA where the bishop is Bishop Peter Libasci. They want the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary to follow this error for canonical recognition. -Lionel Andrades

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If Pope Francis announces that he will interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then Cardinal Braz de Avez can do the same. So the Franciscans of the Immaculate could accept the Council, like them. The Council will be in harmony with Tradition

 

If Pope Francis announces that he will interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then Cardinal Braz de Avez  can do the same. So the Franciscans of the Immaculate  could accept the Council, like them. The Council will be in harmony  with Tradition.

Since they would be affirming the Council and Tradition they are eligible for canonical recognition.

It would be the same for the SSPX.. -Lionel Andrades

Cardinal Braz de Avez and Fr.Sabino Ardito are still stalling : Announcement awaited from Franciscans of the Immaculate

https://gloria.tv/post/2ouvnAA4xoNiAcYgGWMTRrKnV

If Pope Francis announces that all can interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then Bishop Mark Pivarunas and the Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculatae(CMRI) can leave their sedevacantism based upon Vatican Council II intepreted with a false premise.It would be the same for Bishop Donald Sanborn

 

If Pope Francis announces that all can interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then Bishop Mark Pivarunas and the Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculatae(CMRI) can leave their sedevacantism based upon Vatican Council II intepreted with a false premise.It would be the same for Bishop Donald Sanborn. -Lionel Andrades

 

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If Pope Francis announces that he will interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then the doctrinal issue is resolved for the Society of St. Pius X (SPX). They can ask for canonical recognition

 

If Pope Francis announces that he will interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then the doctrinal issue is resolved for the Society of St. Pius X (SPX). They can ask for canonical recognition.The Council will not contradict the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q), extra ecclesiam nulla salus as defined by three Church Councils and the Athanasius Creed. -Lionel Andrades

If Pope Francis and Pope Benedict announce that they would be interpreting Vatican Council II without the false premise there would be no exception in the text of the Council to the strict interpretation of EENS, according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine

 If Pope Francis and Pope Benedict announce that they would be interpreting Vatican Council II without the false premise there would be no exception in the text of the Council to the strict interpretation of EENS, according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine. - Lionel Andrades

 

If Pope Benedict announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise and that in the past he had made a mistake what will be Pope Francis' reaction

 

If Pope Benedict announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise and that in the past he had made a mistake what will be Pope Francis' reaction. - Lionel Andrades

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the common false premise; the common New Theology of Pope Benedict, what will the German bishops do ? What will the English bishops do ? Malta ?

 If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the common false premise; the common New Theology of Pope Benedict, what will the German bishops do ? What will the English bishops do ? Malta ? - Lionel Andrades

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise Cardinal Kasper and Bishop Fellay would be on the same side.

 If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise  Cardinal Kasper and Bishop Fellay  would be on the same side. Cardinal Kasper would not interpret  Vatican Council II to create  liberalism and a rupture with Tradition(EENS etc).Bishop Fellay  would not interpret Vatican Council II to create a rupture with Tradition and then reject  the Council. The traditional-liberal concept and division will end. Since all could interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and in harmony with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades

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