Saturday, November 30, 2019

Even when they know that there cannot be practical exceptions to EENS - they have to say that there are exceptions ( Graphics )







-Lionel Andrades

 NOVEMBER 28, 2019

For Cardinal Raymond Burke, Archbishop Giacomo Morandi, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Fr. John Zuhlsdorf, Roberto dei Mattei and numerous others there are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Visible? But where are they seen ?





I sacerdoti Minim pretendono, con il supporto dei loro Superiori, che LG 16, GS 22 ecc. Si riferiscano a persone fisicamente visibili, quindi non devono affermare l'ecclesiologia missionaria passata di Alphonse Ratisbonne, Theodore Ratisbonne, St. Maximillian Kolbe e St. Francesco di Paula.

29 novembre 2019
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Mercoledì scorso c'è stata la festa della Medaglia Miracolosa e mi sono ritrovato in ginocchio sotto la statua di San Massimiliano Kolbe, vicino all'Altare del Miracolo, nella Basilica di San Andrea delle Fratte, a Roma. La chiesa era piena. Quattro misteri completi del Rosario. Tutti e quattro i Misteri, uno dopo l'altro, lo hanno fatto ogni 27 del mese, nella basilica.Per me è stato proprio come a Medjugorje.
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Dopo ognuno dei 20 - decenni ci sarebbe stata una preghiera che invitava la Madonna ad aiutarci a convertirci. Era la Madonna della Conversione.
Per conversione hanno significato un cambiamento di cuore verso Dio, in tutti gli aspetti della vita.
Avrebbero anche potuto significare una conversione nella Chiesa Cattolica, per sfuggire all'inferno, come avrebbero insegnato San Massimiliano Kolbe e Alphonse Ratisbonne.
Quando c'è una vera conversione del cuore in un non Cattolico, entrerà nella Chiesa Cattolica e vi rimarrà per evitare l'inferno.
Il Vangelo di Giovanni 3: 16-18 dice che tutti hanno bisogno di convertirsi in Gesù e nella Chiesa, il suo Corpo Mistico. Il Concilio Vaticano II afferma che tutti hanno bisogno di convertirsi con fede e battesimo (AG 7). I Catechismi dicono che tutti hanno bisogno di convertirsi nella Chiesa Cattolica per la salvezza (1257,845,846)
Alphonse Ratisbonne si convertì alla Chiesa Cattolica e così fece suo fratello Teodoro. Diventarono missionari e sacerdoti.
La Madonna mostrò ad Alphonse Ratisbonne la bellezza e l'importanza della Chiesa Cattolica per la salvezza di tutte le persone. Si convertì in quel momento, vicino all'Altare del Miracolo nella chiesa, dove mi inginocchiavo.
La Madonna non disse a Ratisbona che doveva solo credere in Gesù e che poteva rimanere ebreo.
Gli mostrò l'importanza di essere un membro della Chiesa Cattolica.
Ma per i Padri Minimi, di San Francesco di Paola, nella basilica, non è necessario convertirsi tutti nella Chiesa Cattolica. Casi invisibili di LG 16, GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II sono eccezioni visibili,  dell'insegnamento di San Francesco di Paola,salvezza esclusiva solo nella Chiesa Cattolica.
In che modo le persone invisibili possono essere eccezioni visibili a tutti coloro che hanno bisogno di entrare nella Chiesa per la salvezza? Una volta ho chiesto a un prete italiano di Minimi presso la basilica.
Dove sono le persone salvate nell'ignoranza invincibile (LG 16) o con buona volontà (GS 22) fuori dalla Chiesa ?, gli ho chiesto.
Consacriamoci a Maria.
Anche per lui la fede e il battesimo erano la norma per la salvezza. Accettò, ma per lui c'erano ancora delle eccezioni pratiche alla norma.Questo non e tradizionale o razionale per me. Ha contraddetto la Bibbia (Giovanni 3: 5, Marco 16:16) e i papi nel corso dei secoli. Questa non era la teologia di Catherine Laboure, quando la Madonna le chiese di fare una Medaglia Miracolosa.
Aveva un'interpretazione rigorosa di extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) e non riusciva a vedere qualcuno salvato nell'ignoranza invincibile o con buona volontà al di fuori della Chiesa. Fisicamente non era possibile.
Quindi i sacerdoti Minimi  pretendono, con il supporto dei loro Superiori, che LG 16, GS 22 ecc.,nel Concilio Vaticano II, si referiscono a persone fisicamente visibili, quindi non devono affermare l'ecclesiologia missionaria passata di Alphonse Ratisbonne, Theodore Ratisbonne, St. Maximillian Kolbe e St Francesco di Paula - Lionel Andrades

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NOVEMBER 29, 2019

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The Minim priests pretend, with the support of their Superiors,that LG 16, GS 22 etc refer to physically visible people.Then they do not have to affirm the past missionary ecclesiology of Alphonse Ratisbonne, Theodore Ratisbonne, St. Maximillian Kolbe and St. Francis of Paula



Affermo il Credo di Atanasio e il Concilio Vaticano II


Sono cattolico a Roma e vivo pacificamente le mie convinzioni cattoliche. Non li costringo a nessuno, quindi mi aspetto che gli altri siano tolleranti con me come io sono con loro. Affermo il Concilio Vaticano II, interpretato senza la falsa premessa comune. Affermo anche extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), senza la comune irrazionalità,  come il Magistero nel XVI secolo e i Padri della Chiesa.
Accetto i casi ipotetici del battesimo del desiderio (BOD), del battesimo del sangue (BOB) e di essere salvato nell'ignoranza invincibile(I.I), come solo ipotetici. Non sono persone oggettive e conosciute personalmente nei tempi attuali (2019). Quindi non sono esempi oggettivi di salvezza fuori dalla Chiesa. Le persone invisibili non possono essere esempi visibili di salvezza fuori dalla Chiesa.
Quindi non progetto BOD, BOB e I.I come eccezioni oggettive di Ad Gentes 7, Concilio Vaticano II, che afferma che tutti hanno bisogno di fede e di battesimo per la salvezza. Tutti.
La norma per la salvezza, per me, è la fede e il battesimo dell'acqua, nella Chiesa Cattolica. Questo è l'insegnamento della Chiesa Cattolica nel Concilio Vaticano II (AG 7), Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica (845.846,1257) e altri documenti magisteriali, che interpreto senza confondere ciò che è invisibile come visibile, implicito come esplicito, soggettivo come oggettivo.
Per me la Chiesa indica nei suoi documenti magisteriali, incluso il Concilio Vaticano II, che tutti coloro che sono al di fuori della Chiesa sono sulla strada per l'inferno, inclusi quelli che conoscono o non conoscono Gesù e la Chiesa e la necessità di unirsi per la salvezza .
Per me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ecc. Non sono eccezioni pratiche a EENS o AG 7.
Se qualcuno fosse salvato, sarebbero conosciuti solo da Dio. Non possiamo giudicare una determinata persona sulla terra e affermare che sarà salvata, in via eccezionale, alla salvezza esclusiva nella Chiesa Cattolica.
Quindi per me la maggior parte delle persone sulla terra sono orientate verso l'inferno, poiché muoiono senza fede e con il battesimo dell'acqua (AG 7, LG 14).
Ad Gentes 7 è citato nel Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica con il sottotitolo Al di fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza.Tutti coloro che sono salvati sono salvati attraverso Gesù e la Chiesa,ciò non contraddice l'insegnamento sul tutti coloro che devono essere membri della Chiesa Cattolica per la salvezza (AG 7). La Chiesa è il sacramento della salvezza e tutti hanno bisogno di diventare membri con fede e battesimo, per la salvezza e non ci sono eccezioni nei tempi attuali.
Altre religioni hanno cose buone e sante (NA 2) ma hanno anche inefficienze, superstizioni ed errori (Dominus Iesus). Non possono essere considerati uguali percorsi di salvezza con la Chiesa Cattolica. I loro membri sono orientati verso la Chiesa e sono tutti chiamati a far parte della Chiesa cattolica (CDF, ​​Notification, P. Jacques Dupuis, 2001)
Il Concilio Vaticano II è in armonia con il concetto di salvezza esclusiva, come sostenuto da San Massimiliano Kolbe, Alphonse Ratisbonne, San Francesco d'Assisi, Santa Caterina da Siena, Padre Pio e numerosi altri santi. La Bibbia ci dice che il Chiesa Cattolica, la Chiesa, è il Corpo Mistico di Gesù. Fuori dalla Chiesa Cattolica non c'è salvezza (Giovanni 3: 5, Marco 16:16 ecc.).
Affermo il Credo di Nicea e degli Apostoli interpretato con casi ipotetici solo ipotetici. Sarei pronto a fare una Professione di fede. Affermo il Credo di Atanasio che dice fuori dalla Chiesa che non c'è salvezza.
Non sono in scisma con i papi del passato su EENS (Cantate Domino, Concilio di Firenze 1441), un ecumenismo di ritorno (che affermo con Unitatis Redintigratio, il Concilio Vaticano II interpretato razionalmente) e un'ecclesiologia esclusivista (sostenuta da Lumen Gentium, interpretata razionalmente , senza la premessa falsa).
Non sono un sedevacantista e nemmeno un tradizionalista che frequenta solo la Messa in latino. L'ecclesiologia della Messa, per me, in tutti i riti, è la stessa, prima e dopo il Concilio Vaticano II. Frequento la Messa in Italiano o Inglese, con l'ecclesiologia dei missionari del Medioevo, che fu un periodo d'oro nella storia della Chiesa Cattolica.
Dal momento che non esiste una salvezza nota al di fuori della Chiesa e non ci sono eccezioni note alla rigorosa interpretazione di EENS, per me ci sono solo Cattolici in cielo: sono lì con fede e battesimo d'acqua, e senza peccati mortali sulla loro anima.
Non essendoci casi conosciuti personalmente, di non cattolici salvati al di fuori della Chiesa, non vi sono basi teologiche per la nuova teologia, il nuovo ecumenismo, la nuova ecclesiologia, la nuova evangelizzazione ecc.
Sono stato attivo, per molti anni, con i Focolari, il Rinnovamento Carismatico, di  Neo Catecumenale di Kiko Arguello e la Legione di Maria.
Ho organizzato incontri inter-religiosi insieme a un amico e sacerdote francescano, p. Rasheed.
 Oggi tali incontri sarebbero parte della missione, per me, e un'opportunità per proclamare la fede. Tollererei le opinioni degli altri. Sarebbe un annuncio poiché mi piace proclamare il Vangelo, non aspettandomi necessariamente una conversione, che dipende dalla persona e da Dio.
Sono nato in una famiglia cattolica e sono stato battezzato come un bambino. Sono un fan di Teresa d'Avila.-Lionel Andrades


November 30, 2019

I affirm the Athanasius Creed and Vatican Council II

I am a Catholic in Rome peacefully living my Catholic beliefs. I do not force them on anyone.So I would expect others to be tolerant of me as I am of them. I affirm Vatican Council II, interpreted  without the common false premise. I also affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), without the common irrationality, as did the Magisterium in the 16th century and the Church Fathers.
I accept hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance, as being just hypothetical. They are not objective and personally known people in the present times(2019). So they are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church.Invisible people cannnot be visible examples of salvation outside the Church.
So I do not project BOD,BOB and I.I as objective exceptions to Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All.
The norm for salvation, for me, is faith and the baptism of water, in the Catholic Church.This is the teaching of the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II(AG 7), Catechism of the Catholic Church(845,846,1257) and other magisterial documents, which I interpret without confusing what is invisible as being visible, implicit as being explicit, subjective as being objective.
For me the Church indicates in its magisterial documents, including Vatican Council II, that all who are outside the Church are on the way to Hell.This includes those who know or do not know about Jesus and the Church and the necessity of membership for salvation.
For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not practical exceptions to EENS or AG 7.
If anyone is saved they would only be known to God. We cannot judge a particular person on earth and claim he or she will be saved , as an exception, to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
So for me, most people on earth are oriented to Hell.Since they die without faith and the baptism of water(AG 7, LG 14).
Ad Gentes 7 is quoted in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the sub-title Outside the Church there is no salvation.All who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.This does not contradict the teaching on all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation (AG 7).The Church is the Sacrament of salvation.All need to become members with faith and baptism, for salvation and there are no exceptions in the present times.
Other religions have good and holy things(NA 2) but they also have inefficiencies, superstition and errors ( Dominus Iesus). They cannot be considered equal paths to salvation with the Catholic Church.Their members are oriented to the Church and are all called to become a part of the Catholic Church.(CDF, Notification,Fr.Jacques Dupuis,2001)
Vatican Council II is in harmony with the concept of exclusive salvation, as held by St. Maximilian Kolbe, Alphonse Ratisbonne, St.Francis of Assisi, St. Catherine of Sienna, Padre Pio and numerous other saints.The Bible tells us that the Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Jesus.Outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation( John 3:5, Mark 16:16 etc).
I affirm the Nicene and Apostles Creed interpreted with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical.I would be ready to make a Profession of Faith.I affirm the Athanasius Creed which  says outside the Church there is no salvation.
I am not in schism with the past popes on EENS( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441),an ecumenism of return( which I affirm with Unitatis Redintigratio, Vatican Council II interpreted rationally) and an exclusivist ecclesiology( supported by Lumen Gentium interpreted rationally , without the false premise).
I am not a sedevacantist and nor am I a traditionalist who only attends the Latin Mass. The ecclesiology of the Mass, for me, in all rites, is the same before and after Vatican Council II. I attend Mass in the vernacular with the ecclesiology of the missionaries of the Middle Ages, which was a golden period in the history of the Catholic Church.
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church and there are no known exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS, for me, there are only Catholics in Heaven.They are there with faith and the baptism of water and without mortal sins on their soul.
With there being no personally known cases, of non Catholics saved outside the Church, there is no theological basis, for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology, New Evangelisation etc.
I have been active , for many years, with the Focolares, Charismatic Renewal, Neo Catechumenal Way of Kiko Arguello and the Legion of Mary.
I have organized inter faith meetings along with a Franciscan friend and priest, Fr. Rasheed.
 Today such meetings would be a part of mission, for me, and an opportunity to proclaim the faith.I would tolerate the views of others. It would be a proclamation since I like to proclaim the  Gospel.Not necessarily expecting a conversion, which  depends upon the person and God.
I was born in a Catholic family and was baptised as an infant. I am a fan of Teresa of Avila.  -Lionel Andrades

November 30, 2019

I affirm the Athanasius Creed and Vatican Council II

I am a Catholic in Rome peacefully living my Catholic beliefs. I do not force them on anyone.So I would expect others to be tolerant of me as I am of them. I affirm Vatican Council II, interpreted  without the common false premise. I also affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), without the common irrationality, as did the Magisterium in the 16th century and the Church Fathers.
I accept hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance, as being just hypothetical. They are not objective and personally known people in the present times(2019). So they are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church.Invisible people cannnot be visible examples of salvation outside the Church.
So I do not project BOD,BOB and I.I as objective exceptions to Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All.
The norm for salvation, for me, is faith and the baptism of water, in the Catholic Church.This is the teaching of the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II(AG 7), Catechism of the Catholic Church(845,846,1257) and other magisterial documents, which I interpret without confusing what is invisible as being visible, implicit as being explicit, subjective as being objective.
For me the Church indicates in its magisterial documents, including Vatican Council II, that all who are outside the Church are on the way to Hell.This includes those who know or do not know about Jesus and the Church and the necessity of membership for salvation.
For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not practical exceptions to EENS or AG 7.
If anyone is saved they would only be known to God. We cannot judge a particular person on earth and claim he or she will be saved , as an exception, to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
So for me, most people on earth are oriented to Hell.Since they die without faith and the baptism of water(AG 7, LG 14).
Ad Gentes 7 is quoted in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the sub-title Outside the Church there is no salvation.All who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.This does not contradict the teaching on all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation (AG 7).The Church is the Sacrament of salvation.All need to become members with faith and baptism, for salvation and there are no exceptions in the present times.
Other religions have good and holy things(NA 2) but they also have inefficiencies, superstition and errors ( Dominus Iesus). They cannot be considered equal paths to salvation with the Catholic Church.Their members are oriented to the Church and are all called to become a part of the Catholic Church.(CDF, Notification,Fr.Jacques Dupuis,2001)
Vatican Council II is in harmony with the concept of exclusive salvation, as held by St. Maximilian Kolbe, Alphonse Ratisbonne, St.Francis of Assisi, St. Catherine of Sienna, Padre Pio and numerous other saints.The Bible tells us that the Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Jesus.Outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation( John 3:5, Mark 16:16 etc).
I affirm the Nicene and Apostles Creed interpreted with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical.I would be ready to make a Profession of Faith.I affirm the Athanasius Creed which  says outside the Church there is no salvation.
I am not in schism with the past popes on EENS( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441),an ecumenism of return( which I affirm with Unitatis Redintigratio, Vatican Council II interpreted rationally) and an exclusivist ecclesiology( supported by Lumen Gentium interpreted rationally , without the false premise).
I am not a sedevacantist and nor am I a traditionalist who only attends the Latin Mass. The ecclesiology of the Mass, for me, in all rites, is the same before and after Vatican Council II. I attend Mass in the vernacular with the ecclesiology of the missionaries of the Middle Ages, which was a golden period in the history of the Catholic Church.
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church and there are no known exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS, for me, there are only Catholics in Heaven.They are there with faith and the baptism of water and without mortal sins on their soul.
With there being no personally known cases, of non Catholics saved outside the Church, there is no theological basis, for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology, New Evangelisation etc.
I have been active , for many years, with the Focolares, Charismatic Renewal, Neo Catechumenal Way of Kiko Arguello and the Legion of Mary.
I have organized inter faith meetings along with a Franciscan friend and priest, Fr. Rasheed.Today such meetings would be a part of mission, for me, and an opportunity to proclaim the faith,while tolerating the views of others. It would be a proclamation for the pleasure of proclaiming the Gospel.Not necessarily to expect a convert. Conversion depends upon the person and God.
I was born in a Catholic family and was baptised as an infant. I am a fan of Teresa of Avila. -Lionel Andrades

I affirm the Athanasius Creed and Vatican Council II

I am a Catholic in Rome peacefully living my Catholic beliefs. I do not force them on anyone.So I would expect others to be tolerant of me as I am of them. I affirm Vatican Council II, interpreted  without the common false premise. I also affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), without the common irrationality, as did the Magisterium in the 16th century and the Church Fathers.
I accept hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance, as being just hypothetical. They are not objective and personally known people in the present times(2019). So they are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church.Invisible people cannnot be visible examples of salvation outside the Church.
So I do not project BOD,BOB and I.I as objective exceptions to Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All.
The norm for salvation, for me, is faith and the baptism of water, in the Catholic Church.This is the teaching of the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II(AG 7), Catechism of the Catholic Church(845,846,1257) and other magisterial documents, which I interpret without confusing what is invisible as being visible, implicit as being explicit, subjective as being objective.
For me the Church indicates in its magisterial documents, including Vatican Council II, that all who are outside the Church are on the way to Hell.This includes those who know or do not know about Jesus and the Church and the necessity of membership for salvation.
For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not practical exceptions to EENS or AG 7.
If anyone is saved they would only be known to God. We cannot judge a particular person on earth and claim he or she will be saved , as an exception, to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
So for me, most people on earth are oriented to Hell.Since they die without faith and the baptism of water(AG 7, LG 14).
Ad Gentes 7 is quoted in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the sub-title Outside the Church there is no salvation.All who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.This does not contradict the teaching on all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation (AG 7).The Church is the Sacrament of salvation.All need to become members with faith and baptism, for salvation and there are no exceptions in the present times.
Other religions have good and holy things(NA 2) but they also have inefficiencies, superstition and errors ( Dominus Iesus). They cannot be considered equal paths to salvation with the Catholic Church.Their members are oriented to the Church and are all called to become a part of the Catholic Church.(CDF, Notification,Fr.Jacques Dupuis,2001)
Vatican Council II is in harmony with the concept of exclusive salvation, as held by St. Maximilian Kolbe, Alphonse Ratisbonne, St.Francis of Assisi, St. Catherine of Sienna, Padre Pio and numerous other saints.The Bible tells us that the Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Jesus.Outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation( John 3:5, Mark 16:16 etc).
I affirm the Nicene and Apostles Creed interpreted with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical.I would be ready to make a Profession of Faith.I affirm the Athanasius Creed which  says outside the Church there is no salvation.
I am not in schism with the past popes on EENS( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441),an ecumenism of return( which I affirm with Unitatis Redintigratio, Vatican Council II interpreted rationally) and an exclusivist ecclesiology( supported by Lumen Gentium interpreted rationally , without the false premise).
I am not a sedevacantist and nor am I a traditionalist who only attends the Latin Mass. The ecclesiology of the Mass, for me, in all rites, is the same before and after Vatican Council II. I attend Mass in the vernacular with the ecclesiology of the missionaries of the Middle Ages, which was a golden period in the history of the Catholic Church.
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church and there are no known exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS, for me, there are only Catholics in Heaven.They are there with faith and the baptism of water and without mortal sins on their soul.
With there being no personally known cases, of non Catholics saved outside the Church, there is no theological basis, for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology, New Evangelisation etc.
I have been active , for many years, with the Focolares, Charismatic Renewal, Neo Catechumenal Way of Kiko Arguello and the Legion of Mary.
I have organized inter faith meetings along with a Franciscan friend and priest, Fr. Rasheed.
 Today such meetings would be a part of mission, for me, and an opportunity to proclaim the faith.I would tolerate the views of others. It would be a proclamation since I like to proclaim the  Gospel.Not necessarily expecting a conversion, which  depends upon the person and God.
I was born in a Catholic family and was baptised as an infant. I am a fan of Teresa of Avila.  -Lionel Andrades

Le impressioni di alcuni pellegrini al rientro da Medjugorje

Preghiera di guarigione - Medjugorje 27 novembre 2019

Medjugorje è l'offerta del Signore per salvare il futuro del mondo

‘Pachamama’ snatcher to lead prayer protest against pro-LGBT benefit concert in Vienna cathedral



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VIENNA, Austria, November 29, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) ― A group of Catholics headed by the young Austrian who threw "Pachamama" idols in the Tiber river will pray the rosary outside Vienna’s Catholic cathedral tomorrow in reparation for a pro-LBGT concert that will be held within. 
 Alexander Tschugguel, one of the founders of the St. Boniface Institute, has announced that the group will hold a rosary tomorrow night outside St. Stephen’s Cathedral, the mother church of the Archdiocese of Vienna. 

"On Saturday, November 30th, that is, tomorrow, we will gather at 22:15 in front of St. Stephen's Cathedral to pray a rosary for all the people who are attending an event unacceptable to us Catholics inside the Cathedral,” Tschugguel wrote on Facebook this afternoon. 
"'Believe Together' is part of a series of events organized by Gery Keszler and his association ‘LIFE +’,” he continued. 

“Among other things, Thomas Neuwirth [aka drag queen ‘Conchita Wurst’] will perform under his new pseudonym ‘WURST’ and sing in the cathedral itself.”



Tschugguel told LifeSiteNews that he isn’t worried about being attacked by the audience or being charged with trespassing as the group will be outside the cathedral in the Stephansplatz (cathedral square). Anyone entering the Cathedral on Saturday evening will have to buy a ticket, which also rankles the St. Boniface Institute: they are opposed to people having to pay to visit the Cathedral.  

The young married layman said that St. Stephan’s Cathedral is very important to him personally. 

“When I go into the city and I pass the Cathedral, I often go inside and pray there because there is a wonderful Hungarian pilgrimage picture [the Máriapócs icon] on the right-hand side,” he said. 

“On the right side there is also a chapel where you can go at any time for Adoration, and a confession area which is always filled with priests, very good priests, to hear confessions.”

Tschugguel explained that the Cathedral is a “wonderful place to pray” also because tourists are kept to a small area, leaving the rest of the building free for those who appreciate it for its sacred role.

“It is terrible and a shame that things like this event ‘Believe Together’ can happen in our cathedral, and we will pray for the people who go inside to see and join this happening, “ he said. 

The St. Boniface Institute will be live streaming the rosary. 

This will be Tschugguel’s second public action against the desecration of Catholic churches by profane events permitted by Catholic clergy. In October, idols representing the Andean goddess Pachamama were used in ceremonies before and during the Synod of Bishops for the Pan-Amazonian Region in Rome. Tschugguel visited Rome and saw the idols enshrined in the Carmelite Church of Santa Maria in Traspontina. He later returned with a friend to remove the profane statuettes and cast them into the Tiber.

Reaction to Tschugguel’s action was mixed, with some pundits accusing him of racism and others, including such prelates as Cardinal Gerhard Müller, Cardinal Walter Brandmüller, Cardinal Jorge Urosa Savino, Bishop José Luis Azcona Hermoso, Bishop Marian Eleganti, and Bishop Athanasius Schneider, offering him high praise. Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò called Tschugguel “a hero.”   

Tomorrow’s event in St. Stephen’s Cathedral is the third time Vienna’s Cardinal Archbishop has allowed the pro-LGBT “LIFE+” association to use the church as a venue for the World AIDS Day charity concert that will take place on Saturday, Nov. 30.

The event last year, which Cardinal Schönborn attended, featured a shirtless actor known for playing homosexual roles standing on the altar rail, loud rock and electronic music, and actors dressed as demons. 

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Vienna Cardinal Schönborn to host ‘blasphemous’ pro-LGBT benefit concert in Cathedral again 

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