Friday, December 16, 2016

Supporters of the four cardinals and the dubbia are not affirming the Catholic Faith.


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John Henry Weston Editor of Life Sites news could simply announce that there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Why does he not affirm the dogma EENS, the traditional teaching on salvation ? He expects Pope Francis to affirm moral theology without exceptions; without subjective exceptions but he will not do the same with Catholic salvation theology.
Moral theology is not controversial but salvation theology is .All these years John Henry Weston would not affirm the dogma EENS since it was not politicaly correct. It could be the same with Pope Francis. He is obliged to make changes in Catholic moral theology to be politically correct.
Cardinal Burke, John Henry Weston, the 23 scholars and the others who rightly support the dubbia, like I do, could also support traditional Catholic salvation theology.
1.They could say the obvious,that the baptism of desire is invisible.
So it cannot be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Holy Office and the Archdiocese made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.The magisterium made a mistake.
2.Since the baptism of desire is invisible and not relevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus it changes our interpretation of Vatican Council II.The  Council Fathers made a mistake at Vatican Council II. They assumed that hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were not hypothetical.
So Vatican Council II is really  in accord with the dogma EENS as it was known in the 16th century.The magisterium made a mistake.Let's have LifeSites say this.
3.Since the baptism of desire is always implicit for us, it is hypothetical and not visible any personal case in 2016, it is not an exception to the dogma EENS. So we can affirm invisible for us baptism of desire and also 'the rigorist interpretation' of the dogma EENS.They are compatible. They do not conflict. It does not violate the Principle of Non Contradiction.
So the magisterium made a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. It assumed that the baptism of desire was an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.
What stops John Henry Weston, the four cardinals and the 23 cardinals affirming this ? Since they care about Catholic doctrine and believe that the magisterium, like that of Pope Francis', can be wrong so why not clarify the error in Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 16, 2016


The popes are not affirming the faith: but neither are John Henry Weston and Joseph Shaw

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/the-popes-are-not-affirming-faith-but.html




November 6, 2016


When Vatican Council II is not a rupture with Tradition and there are no 'ambiguities' in it, then the Novus Ordo Mass theologically should not be a rupture with Tradition.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/when-vatican-council-ii-is-not-rupture.html
 
 
 
November 5, 2016

So this is why Vatican Council II for you is a rupture with Tradtiion. It is a rupture with St. Ignatius of Antoich because of the false premise, the irrational premise

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/so-this-is-why-vatican-council-ii-for.html
 
 
 
November 5, 2016

The traditionalists are using the same innovative theology as Archbishop Augustine di Noia and Cardinal Muller at the Vatican

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/the-traditionalist-here-are-using-same.html
 
 
 
November 5, 2016

No doctrine was changed in the text of Vatican Council II.However an irrational theology was used.With this theology the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which is a foundation dogma for other doctrine( ecumenism etc) was discarded

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/no-doctrine-was-changed-in-text-of.html
 
 
November 5, 2016

The ambiguities in Vatican Council II are there ONLY when an irrational premise and conclusion is employed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/the-ambiguities-in-vatican-council-ii.html

 
November 5, 2016

Vatican Council II is the only Council in which an objective mistake was made and was approved by the magisterium. Invisible cases ( baptism of desire etc) were assumed to be visible

 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/vatican-council-ii-is-only-council-in.html
 
 
November 4, 2016

Tim Sebastian,Conflict Zone interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and conclusion : so he refers to ' the church's doctrinal changes introduced by the Second Vatican Council'

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/tim-sebastianconflict-zone-interprets.html
 
November 4, 2016

Bishop Bernard Fellay interprets Vatican Council II with the irrational premise and conclusion : there is an option, a rational conclusion of which he is unaware of.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/bishop-bernard-fellay-interprets.html

The popes are not affirming the faith: but neither are John Henry Weston and Joseph Shaw

Pope Francis like the Masons rejects the traditional teachings on morals and calls it legalism. He even rejects the traditional teachings on salvation and calls its triumphalism. Legalism and triumphalism these are the buzz words I would come across all these years.It has now been made official by Pope Francis.1
It was the magisterium which was in heresy with their irrational, non traditional and heretical interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( as having known exceptions). Then it was the magisterium (1965) which was in heresy for interpreting Vatican Council II with this false premise ( visible baptism of desire) to create a heretical conclusion( Vatican Council II is a rupture with the dogma EENS).
They are in heresy even today ( 2016) since they will not interpret Vatican Council II without the irrational premise and conclusion, and so accept a Vatican Council II which is in harmony with EENS according to the 16th century missionaries.
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At all the pontifical universities in Rome they are teaching this heresy faith and morals. The four cardinals have only objected to the heresy in morals, and they condoned it all these years in the universities.
They also did not know that Vatican Council II was traditional without the irrational premise and conclusion;assuming the hypothetical case of the baptism of desire was not hypothetical.
So the cardinals can change all this now. They can affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus like the 16th century missionaries. 
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Similarly the 23 scholars could do the same.John Henry Weston at LifeSites news could do the same but  does not ? Why?  Since he could be hit money-wise?
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Similarly Joseph Shaw could do the same but does not. Why? Since he could lose his career etc.
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Mons. Ignacio Barrerio....
All the priest-professors could do the same at the Legion of Christ university in Rome but they will not .
We see there is a general apostasy in the Church. Every one is comfortable with compromise.Probably the popes too have their excuse. -Lionel Andrades



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Priest confirms philosophical error : Lefebvre excommunication a mistake


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/priest-confirms-philosophical-error.html




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Four cardinals and 23 scholars had approved the new moral and salvation theology all these years
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/four-cardinals-and-23-scholars-had.html

Quattro cardinali e 23 academici avevano approvato la nuova teologia morale e di salvezza per tutti questi anni : su cui si basa Amoris Laetitia


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Quattro cardinali e 23 academici avevano approvato la nuova teologia in  morale e  salvezza per tutti questi anni
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I 23 academici  che sostengono la dubbia dei quattro cardinali insegnano le stesse falsità come Amoris Laetitia, nelle università e loro istituti.

Per loro la norma è soggettivismo nella morale e fede.Questa e la nuova teologia ufficiale approvato da Rahner, Kung, Ratzinger, Kasper e altri.
Anche i quattro cardinali, come i 23 academici hanno  approvato tutti questi anni, le eccezioni nelle fede  e  morale. Non hanno mai contestato in pubblico.
Amoris Laetitia è teologicamente basa sulla nuova teologia morale di Haring e Curran.Postulare eccezioni noti agli insegnamenti tradizionali sul morale. Si chiama soggettivismo e dice all'esterno non possiamo giudicare il peccato mortale. Ci potrebbero essere delle eccezioni seconda delle circostanze e le motivazioni che potevano essere noti solo a Dio.Ma questi teologo liberali, assume che i teologi, piccoli dei, può giudicare sojjetivamente casi particolari. Padre Charles Curran ha scritto un libro in cui lui ha fatto di questo giudizio soggettivo nei casi estraordinaria. Poteva leggere la mente di Dio sulla morale e di essere salvato! Questa è la nuova teologia morale insegnato a Roma che ho notato fin dai tempi del pontificato di Giovanni Paolo II
Ieri sera stavo leggendo alcuni degli annunci per gli studenti su una delle bacheche del Ateno Pontificio Regina Apostolurum (APRA), l' universita di Legione di Cristo a Roma.Stato un corso di morale con eccezioni. Questo è stato lì nel titolo dello corso.Morali con eccezioni!.Questo È stato in un corso semestrale offerto per gli ISSR (Istituto Superiore di Scienze Religiose) studenti.Questo è per coloro che vogliono essere insegnanti qualificati di catechismo o di religione nelle scuole o parrocchie.Loro ottenere la Laurea Magisteriale in Scienze Religiose.

Sulla stessa ISSR bacheca cera un altro corso annunciato sulla salvezza teologia.E stato intitolato Teologia Fondamentale del pluralismo religioso di Prof. Bravo Pereira.E contraddice la Notifica sul p.Jacques Dupuis SJ dalla Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede, il Vaticano (2001) durante il pontificato di Giovanni Paolo II.
Bravo Pereira è costretto a insegnare che ci sono eccezioni alla teologia della salvezza tradizionale. Così, per lui ci sono casi noti soggettivamente del battesimo di desiderio, di essere salvati nell'ignoranza invincibile, semi del Verbo, la comunione imperfetta con la Chiesa ecc. Tutti senza il battesimo di acqua nella Chiesa cattolica.
Così gli studenti del ISSR quando ottengono la loro laurea presso l'Università APRA andrà alle loro parrocchie e insegnare la nuova teologia. Diranno che non tutti i peccati mortali sono peccati mortali e ci possono essere delle eccezioni (come se siamo in grado di sapere) e non tutti si ha la necessità di essere un membro della Chiesa cattolica per la salvezza perchè ci sono noti eccezioni del battesimo di desiderio ( come se siamo in grado di sapere) ecc.
Tutto questo è stato approvato dai quattro cardinali e 23 accademici da quando è stato approvato da Papa Benedetto XVI,in passato.

Entrambi questi corsi insegnano la nuova teologia morale e di fede base alle eccezioni che fanno i regola.Questo e stato espresso direttamente nel Amorits Laetitia.
Papa Francesco, come i massoni rifiuta gli insegnamenti tradizionali sulla morale e lo chiama legalismo.Lui respinge anche gli insegnamenti tradizionale sul salvezza esclusivo nella Chiesa cattolica e chiede trionfalismo. Il legalismo e trionfalismo queste sono le parole avrei incontrato tutti questi anni.Ora  è stato reso ufficiale da Papa Francesco.
-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 16, 2016



Four cardinals and 23 scholars had approved the new moral and salvation theology all these years

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/four-cardinals-and-23-scholars-had.html

Four cardinals and 23 scholars had approved the new moral and salvation theology all these years

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The 23 scholars supporting the dubbia of the four cardinals are teaching the same falsehoods as Amoris Laetitia, in the universities and their instituitions.
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For them the norm is subjectivism in morals and faith.This is the official new theology approved by Rahner, Kung, Ratzinger, Kasper and others.
Even the four cardinals like the 23 scholars have approved it all these years, exceptions to the traditional teachings on faith and morals. They have never objected in public.
Amoris Laetitia is theologically based on the  new moral theology of Haring and Curran.It postulates known exceptions to the traditional teachings on morals. It is called subjectivism and says externally we cannot judge mortal sin. There could be exceptions depending on circumstances and motivations which could only be known to God.Yet it also assumes moral theologians, little gods,  can  subjectively judged in particular cases. Fr.Charles Curran has written a book in which he has made this subjective judgment in extra ordinnary cases. He could read the mind of God on morals and being saved!This is the new moral theology being taught in Rome which I have noticed since the time of the pontificate of Pope John Paul.
Yesterday evening I was reading some of the announcements for the students on  one of the Notice Boards of the  Ateno Pontificio Regina Apostolurum (APRA),the Legion of Christ university in Rome.There was a course on morals which mentions there were exceptions. This was there in the title of the course.Morals with exceptions!.This was a semester course offered for the ISSR(Istituto Superiore di Scienze Religiose) students .This is for those who want to be qualified teachers of catechism or religion in schools or parishes.They get the degree Laurea Magiseteriale in Scienze religiose.
On the same ISSR Notice Board there was another course announced on salvation theology.It was titled Teologia fondamentale del pluralismo religioso  by Prof. Bravo Pereira (Fundamental Theology of Religious Pluralism).It contradicts the Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis S.J by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,Vatican(2001) during the pontificate of Pope John Paul II.
Bravo Pereira is forced to teach that there are exceptions to traditional salvation theology. So for him there are subjectively known cases of the baptism of desire, being saved in invincible ignorance,seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church etc.All without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
So the students of the ISSR when they get their degree from the APRA university will go to their parishes and teach the new theology. They will say that not all mortal sins are mortal sins and there can be exceptions (as if we can know) and not every one needs to be a member of the Catholic Church for salvation, since there are known exceptions of the baptism of desire (as if we can know)etc.
All this is approved by the four cardinals and the 23 scholars since it was approved by Pope Benedict XVI  all these years.
Both these courses are teaching the new theology in morals and faith based on the exceptions making the rule.This is expressed directly in Amorits Laetitia.
Pope Francis like the Masons rejects the traditional teachings on morals and calls it legalism. He even rejects
the traditional teachings on salvation and calls its triumphalism. Legalism and triumphalism these are the buzz words I would come across all these years.It has now been made official by Pope Francis.
-Lionel Andrades

December 10, 2016
Scholars supporting four cardinals in major philosophical mistake
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/scholars-supporting-four-cardinals-in.html



http://www.upra.org/offerta-formativa/istituti/istituto-superiore-di-scienze-religiose/