Wednesday, September 27, 2017

Cardinal Marx uses an irrationality to interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism : needs to be corrected


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Cardinal: There Are No More Differences That Divide "Catholics" From Protestants

Still existing differences do not divide the Protestants from the Catholic Church anymore according to the liberal Munich Cardinal Reinhard Marx. Speaking at a meeting of the German Bishops in Fulda …
  
HERE IS THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS WHICH SAYS PROTESTANTS ARE ON THE WAY TO HELL. THERE IS NOTHING REALLY IN VATICAN COUNCIL II TO CONTRADICT IT.

“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)

“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (
Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)

“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he

pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)
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FOR CARDINAL MARX THE FOLLOWING HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES ARE VISIBLE AND KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS MENTIONED ABOVE.
BUT NOT FOR ME!!
EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN THE CATECHISM
1. 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257)
'2.all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body'(CCC 846).
3. Those '
justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians'(CCC 818).
4. They are 'joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."(CCC 838).
5. 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims'(CCC 841).
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EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II1. 'elements of sanctification and truth'in other religions(LG 8),
2..'good and holy' things in other religions(NA 2),
3..'a ray of that Truth which enlightens' all men(NA 2),
4.'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3),
5.' people of good will in other religions'(GS 22),
6.' seeds of the Word'(AG 11),
7.'invincible ignorance'(LG 16),
8.'a good conscience'(LG 16) etc.


According to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) all need faith for salvation. Protestants do not have Catholic Faith, they do not have the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church, they do not have the Sacraments. They are all oriented to Hell and there are no known exceptions in 2017. There is no known salvation outside the Church.-Lionel Andrades

 

Traditionalist Institute of Christ the King and Bishop Michael Campbell interpret Catechism and Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS.I do not make this mistake





These traditionalists interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). I do not make this mistake.
HERE IS THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (
Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings,their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (
Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)

HERE ARE QUOTATIONS FROM THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND VATICAN COUNCIL II WHICH THE INSTITUE LIKE BISHOP CAMPBELL ASSUME ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EENS.
FOR THE INSTITUTE THESE QUOTATIONS REFER TO KNOWN PEOPLE SAVED OUTSIDE THE CHURCH.
FOR ME THEY WILL ALWAYS BE UNKNOWN. THIS IS COMMON SENSE.



EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN THE CATECHISM
1. 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257)
'2.all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body'(CCC 846).
3. Those '
justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians'(CCC 818).
4. They are 'joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."(CCC 838).
5. 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims'(CCC 841).


EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II

1.
    'elements of sanctification and truth'in other religions(LG 8),
2..'good and holy' things in other religions(NA 2),
3..'a ray of that Truth which enlightens' all men(NA 2),
4.'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3),
5.' people of good will in other religions'(GS 22),
6.' seeds of the Word'(AG 11),
7.'invincible ignorance'(LG 16),
8.'a good conscience'(LG 16) etc.

-Lionel Andrades