Friday, July 1, 2022

When Pope Francis refers to the liturgy being based upon the Council he must be shown that the Council when interpreted rationally can only support the past exclusivisit ecclesiology and so only the Roman Missal ( pre-1962).


Much of the confusion in the Church comes with theology. But when we make the invisible-visible, distinction things begin to clear up. It is as if we have found the key to solve a big puzzle.

It is the same with Pope Francis' Apostolic Exhortations Traditionis Custode and now Desiderio Desideravi.

Here are some some passages Fr.John Zuhsldorf has quoted and commented upon.

 

16. We owe to the Council — and to the liturgical movement that preceded it — the rediscovery of a theological understanding of the Liturgy and of its importance in the life of the Church.

Pope Francis, like Pope Benedict, here  mean that the Council, interpreted with the False Premise, i.e confusing what is invisible as being visible, creates alleged practical examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times. So it is inferred, that there are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.The exceptions make the dogma EENS obsolete.So the past ecclesiocentrism is not there. This it is believed is the action of the Holy Spirit and is responsible for the changes in faith and morals over the last 50 years or so. This is the spirit of Vatican Council II and it is expressed in the liturgy with the divorced, the Pelosis, the practicing homosexuals and others in mortal sin being able to receive the Eucharist at Holy Mass.This is a big break with the past ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass.So Pope Francis does not want Catholics to go back to Tradition at the Latin Mass while rejecting Vatican Council II interpreted with a False Premise ( there are visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance, LG 16), False Inference ( visible cases of Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance) in 2022, are practical examples of salvation outside the Church and so are exceptions for EENS, the Athanasius Creed etc) and Non Traditional Conclusion ( Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition and so there can be the spirit of the Council with new reforms in faith and morals expressed also in the liturgy).This is ‘the rediscovery of the theological understanding of the liturgy’ created with a Fake Premise, a False Inference and the expected Non Traditional Conclusion.

  

18. From what I have recalled above it is clear that the Liturgy is, by its very nature, the most effective antidote against these poisons. Obviously, I am speaking of the Liturgy in its theological sense and certainly not, as Pius XII already affirmed, Liturgy as decorative ceremonies or a mere sum total of laws and precepts that govern the cult.

‘Obviously, I am speaking of the Liturgy in its theological sense’ Pope Francis writes. Since only with the False Premise there could be a New Theology and with the New Theology comes the New Ecumenism, New Evangelisation, New Ecclesiology etc.Then there are new morals ( Amoris Laetitia), new soteriology (Abu Dhabi declaration), new moral conditions for receiving the Eucharist ( Nancy Pelosi)...Pope Francis is following the same New Theology of Cardinal Ratzinger.

 

26. It should be clear to all, then, that God cannot be honored worthily unless the mind and heart turn to Him in quest of the perfect life, and that the worship rendered to God by the Church in union with her divine Head is the most efficacious means of achieving sanctity.

So the worship being rendered to God is true for Pope Francis only when the False Premise is chosen to interpret Vatican Council II. There would not be true worship if Vatican Council II is interpreted with the Rational Premise.He would call it being rigid, closed, triumphalitic and extremist, the same labels being used by the political Left.

But is it true worship  when someone knows that he uses a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so will also be using that same False Premise to interpret the Creeds amd create a New Theology which is a break with the past old exclusivist theology of the  Magisterium ? Changing the Creeds is a mortal sin of faith.Reinterpreting Magisterial Documents is a scandal.

Pope Francis, the cardinals and bishops all use a False Premise and so now there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, theirs and mine. There are two interpretations of the Creeds, theirs and mine. There are two interpretations….

I use the Rational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and Pope Francis and Pope Benedict use the Irrational Premise.

Our interpretation of Vatican Council II, with reference to Traditionis Custode and Desiderio Desideravi, would also be different. Since our premises, inferences and conclusions are different.

So when Pope Francis refers to the liturgy being based upon the Council he must be shown that the Council when interpreted rationally can only support the past exclusivisit ecclesiology and so, only the Roman Missal ( pre-1962).

-Lionel Andrades

  

https://wdtprs.com/2022/06/look-at-more-of-desiderio-desideravi/


Pope Francis has not praised the US Supreme Court decision on Roe v Wade and allows pro abortion Nancy Pelosi to receive the Eucharist. Also he has not called for the end of the pro abortion law 194 in Italy.





Pope Francis has not praised the US Supreme Court decision on Roe v Wade while he allows pro abortion Nancy Pelosi to receive the Eucharist. Also he has not called for the end of the pro abortion law 194 in Italy.

Meanwhile the sedevacantists Peter and Michael Dimond like Pope Francis and Nancy Pelosi also interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise.So with the False Premise there has to be break with Catholic Tradition. The fault does not lie with Vatican Council II. Since I interpret the Council rationally and there is no break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.

They all use the same False Premise to project the Council as a break with Tradition.

If the sedevacantists interpret Vatican Council with the Rational Premise then the Council supports Tradition.The Council would not be a reason to go into sedevacantism. -Lionel Andrades


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