The Redemptoris Mater Missionary Seminary of the Neo Catechumenal Way in Rome, still interprets invisible cases of LG 8,1,4,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II irrationally : 76 seminaries of the Way make the same error and there is no correction from Kiko Arguello

 

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The Redemptoris Mater Missionary Seminary of the Neo Catechumenal Way in Rome,  still interprets invisible cases of LG 8,1,4,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being visible exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).No one tells Kiko Arguello, the founder of the Way, about this error. There is no statement from the Rome- seminary or the 76 seminaries of the Way all over the world.

The seminary in Rome has been  under the Allen Hall seminary in England. They follow the English Bishops Conference which makes the same error. Cardinal Vincent Nichols interprets Vatican Council II irrationally for political reasons. This is dishonest.

- Lionel Andrades

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The Department of Theology at the St. John Lateran University, Rome agrees with me. LG 8, 14, 15, &, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, also for them, refer to only hypothetical cases.

 

The Department of Theology at the St. John Lateran University, Rome agrees with me. LG 8, 14, 15, &, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, also for them, refer to only hypothetical cases.

 So they are not practical exceptions in 1965-2024 for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla sales (Fourth Lateran Council 1215, Pope Honorius III). They do not contradict the Athanasius Creed which says all need the Catholic Faith for salvation. Neither do they contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24 Q, 27 Q).

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Similarly at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas, Sister Helen Burns op and Sister Catherine Droste op, whom I now and then, pass by on the streets of Rome, also agree with me. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc refer to physically invisible cases.

St. Helen Burns has been a member of the International Theological Commission, Vatican, which has compromised the Catholic Faith for political reasons.

Sister Catherine was allowed to study theology at the Angelicum, Rome, since she was interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and so was politically correct with the Jewish Left in Italy. This was unethical. Both these Dominican Sisters teach moral theology and ethics.

It may be mentioned that the Italian Parliament (Berlusconi-Fini) approved Anti Semitic laws which can be misused to restrict the expression of traditional Catholicism.

- Lionel Andrades

We Catholics are following the old salvation theology of the Church. We cannot create a New Theology by interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally to produce a nontraditional, liberal conclusion.

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We Catholics are following the old salvation theology of the Church. We cannot create a New Theology by interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally to produce a nontraditional, liberal conclusion.

The old theology is clear on other religions not being ways to avoid Hell and there is nothing new in Vatican Council II to contradict this.

Cardinal Fernandez and the journalists in Rome agree that LG 8, 14, 15, 16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to invisible people in 1965-2024.So there are no practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), in Vatican Council II.We cannot meet or see someone saved outside the Church in 2024. If anyone was saved as such it would only be known to God. So the old theology expressed in Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation (Ad Gentes 7).This is the norm for salvation. We humans cannot know of any extraordinary means of salvation in particular cases.

So I am affirming the old theology of the Church like Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez, the journalists in Rome, the theologians at the Ecclesia Mater, Rome Vicariate, the Department of Theology of the Pontifical University of St. John Lateran, Rome- and of course, my Parish Priest Fr. Paolo Bomus and the priests of the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa, Rome.

Politically this could be uncomfortable for some of them but there is no other choice when  you are interpreting Vatican Council II rationally and Magisterially.

They all agree that LG 8,14,15,1,6UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc , refer to only theoretical and speculative cases in 2024, they are not actual people saved as such and known to us.

- Lionel Andrades