Monday, April 20, 2015

School children in the Archdiocese of Detroit have to use an irrationality to interpret Vatican Council II

The Staff at Church Militant TV would know of friends or relatives whose children are in school at Detroit.

Ask these school children and they will tell you that we humans cannot physically see the dead in Heaven. Obviously!The school children  will also say that we cannot know any one in Detroit who will be saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7,LG 14).This would only be known to God.

This is common knowledge. It's something obvious.

Yet in Detroit in Religious Education Catholic children are not taught that every one needs to become a Catholic to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.They are not taught that most people are on the way to Hell since at the time of death they do not have 'faith and baptism'.

They are not taught this even though it is the teaching of the Church in Vatican Council II.

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
The children are not told that every one needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation according to Lumen Gentium 14 and Ad Gentes  7.
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Instead they are told not every one needs to enter the Church.In other words there are known exceptions. There are known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.
Here are the known exceptions, which the children are told are mentioned in Vatican Council II.
Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him - Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14,Vatican Council II.
So with the Cushing additions, the Catholic children are taught that there are excèptions since we can physically see the dead in Heaven in the present times.These visible-dead are  saved 'in inculpable ignorance of the Gospel'(Ad Gentes 7) or catechumens saved with 'the baptism of desire' (Lumen Gentium 14).
The children are taught that in Detroit they can see people who died in the past in inculpable ignorance or the baptism of desire and so these visible cases it is inferred, are known exceptions to the rigorist  interpreation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Salvation is no more exclusive.
The childred are also taught to infer that in Detroit they will be able to know of persons alive today,who will go to Heaven without 'faith and baptism' and in inculpable ignorance or the baptism of desire.
This is all irrational. Yet upon this irrational reasoning theology is based and taught in schools, colleges and seminaries in the Archdiocese of Detroit.
The text of LG 14 and AG 7 in the Cushing additions do not state that these cases are personally known to us or can be known to us in the present times. This is important. Since if they are not known to us they cannot be exceptions to the orthodox passages in AG 7 and LG 14 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Even a young person in school can reason this out.
Vatican Council II is in perfect agreement with Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441, on extra ecclesiam nulla salus but the children do not know it.They are presented with an irrational  reason, the visible-dead theory. This makes Vatican Council II a break with the centuries old interpretation of the dogma which says all need to convert into the Church, including Protestants.
Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.-Lumen Gentium 14
Who 'knows' or 'does not know' is known only to God. So this passage is not an exception to the rigorist interpretation of the dogma.This passage is placed here after an objective mistake was made by Cardinal Marchetti in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.This is not explained to the students.
The Archdiocese of Detroit Religious Education program uses an irrational premise ( salvation in Heaven is physically visible to us in 2015) and an irrational inference ( these explicit cases are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma with its exclusivist ecclesiology) for an irrational and non traditional conclusion ( so Vatican Council II becomes a break with the rigorist interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.) It is part of catechesis, adult education formation and evangelisation.

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Ask the Archbishop of Detroit.He will confirm what I have written here.He will agree.

Dr. Ralph Martin has been a member of the Catholic Schools Advisory Board,Archdiocese of Detroit since March, 2010. Dr. Martin is professor of theology at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit and President of Renewal Ministries according to the diocese website. He is a member of Christ the King Parish and St. Thomas the Apostle Parish, both in Ann Arbor.
In his books and talks he is known to say every one needs to enter the Church except for those in inculpable ignorance or the baptism of desire.Precisely! For Ralph Martin too the deceased in Heaven are visible. He can know who will be saved without receiving the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. Since there are known exceptions for him, he will not endorse the Feeneyite version of the dogma on salvation.Simon Rafe at ChurchMilitant TV in Detroit says the same thing.Similarly for Michael Voris, Vatican Council II contradicts the traditional teaching on salvation.Same reasoning.

This would be the irrational reasoning of the faculty at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary. Dr. Philip Blosser, professor of philosophy,Dr. Patricia Cooney Hathaway, professor of spirituality and systematic theology and Dr. Eduardo Echeverria, professor of philosophy and theology.
Bishop Arturo Cepeda is the Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools. Contact him ( He will agree with what I have written here.School children have to use an irrational premise and inference when interpreting Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
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