Monday, April 8, 2024
Bishop Bernard Fellay, Paul Robinson, Fr. David Sherry, Fr.Paul Isaac Franks, Fr.Macfarland, Fr. Wiseman, Fr.Reuter and other priests of the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) to avoid the Anti Semitic label interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II as being physically visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church, among non Catholics, in 1965-2024.
Bishop Bernard Fellay, Paul Robinson, Fr. David Sherry, Fr.Paul Isaac Franks, Fr.Macfarland, Fr. Wiseman, Fr.Reuter and other priests of the Society
of St.Pius X (SSPX) to avoid the Anti Semitic label interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG
16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II as being physically visible
examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church, among non Catholics, in 1965-2024.In this way, alleged objective exceptions are produced for the dogma
extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) defined by three Church Councils. These Councils ( Fourth Lateran Council etc) are supported by Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) and the Catechism of the
Catholic Church (845, 846, and 1257), when these Magisterial Documents are interpreted rationally.
The SSPX have streamlined Catholic salvation- doctrine, packaged it neat and comfortable,
to avoid any tension or persecution for the SSPX. The compromise is being
maintained on the SSPX video series Crisis in the Church.
For me, and many other Catholics, LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical cases only. Over the centuries they knew that being saved in the baptism of desire (BOD) and in invincible ignorance (I.I) etc, refer to only theoretical cases. This was common sense. So the BOD and I.I were not projected as exceptions for the dogma EENS.
But the 1949 Letter of
the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston during the pontificate of Pope Pius
XII projected BOD and I.I as being exceptions for traditional EENS as held by the St. Benedict Center. The error, confused what is invisible as being visible, was not corrected
by the popes from Pius XII to Francis.
When I meet a non Catholic, I know that he or she is oriented to
Hell, without Catholic faith and the baptism of water, at the time of death.
The norm for salvation is faith and baptism and not the BOD and I.I. In general
non Catholics are oriented to Hell with mortal sins of faith and baptism on
their soul.
Salvation is open to all in general, Jesus died for all but to receieve this salvation all need to enter the Catholic Church as members, with faith and the baptism of water ( Dominus Iesus 20 etc, CDF, Notification on Fr.J.Dupuis by the CDF, during the pontificate of Pope John Paul II).
Bishop Bernard Fellay has expelled so many priests of the SSPX who did not accept Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally, i.e invisible cases of Lumen Gentium 16 for example, were projected being visible exceptions for tradiitonal EENS, traditional ecclesiocesntrism.
Meanwhile Bishop Fellay did not affirm Vatican Council II rational i.e invisible cases of LG 16 are invisible always.
So now there is a doctrinal and theological crisis in the SSPX, as in the rest of the Catholic Church, and among the sedevacantists ( Bishops Sanford, Pirvanus etc) too.No one corrects them to avoid being misunderstood as being Anti Semtic. The video series too is prudent and is not touching this subject. - Lionel Andrades
The progessivist train is wobbling, John Allen Jr. Michael Sean Winters, Massimo Faggioli, Christopher White agree with me – LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to invisible cases in 2024. So they can no more be projected as examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church. They are no more exceptions for the exclusivist ecclesiology of Pope Pius X. They now have to take the theological train in another direction.
The
progessivist train is wobbling, John Allen Jr. Michael Sean Winters, Massimo
Faggioli, Christopher White agree with me – LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc
in Vatican Council II refer to invisible cases in 2024. So they can no more be
projected as examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church. They are no
more exceptions for the exclusivist ecclesiology of Pope Pius X. They now have
to take the theological train in another direction.
Since
if they say that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (eens) , has no exceptions in
Vatican Council II (and there are no exceptions!), then they affirm traditional
Feeneyite EENS. This would be considered Anti Semitic for the Jewish Left, for
whom they work for.
The
present progressivists and traditionalists are now on the same train. Over the
last 60 plus years they were in two different churches within the Catholic
Church.
The liberals and conservatives had the same theology at the Latin and Novus Ordo Mass.
When I meet a non Catholic I know he is oriented to Hell without faith and
baptism at the time of death since the traditional norm for salvation is faith
and baptism (Ad Gentes 7, Catechism of the Catholic Church 845, 846, 1257, John
3:5, Mark 16:16 etc) but for Fr. David Sherry the District Superior of the SSPX
in Canada, we cannot judge if a non Catholic will be damned or saved. It is the
same for Fr. Charles Curran.The alleged exceptions, which we now know do not exist, has been the norm for salvation, for them. -Lionel Andrades
APRIL 6, 2024
The National Catholic Reporter, Crux, Commonweal and the Tablet are obsolete now – Catholics know that they can interpret Vatican Council II rationally, traditionally and always with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Times have changed.
MARCH 29, 2024
The National Catholic Reporter, Crux, Commonweal and the Tablet are obsolete now – Catholics know that they can interpret Vatican Council II rationally, traditionally and always with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Times have changed.
The National Catholic Reporter, Crux, Commonweal and the Tablet are obsolete now – Catholics know that they can interpret Vatican Council II rationally, traditionally and always with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Times have changed. The NCR can now affirm the ecclesiology of the old Roman Missal in harmony with Vatican Council II. The ecclesiology of the Latin Mass is supported by the Council.
NO DENIAL
Joan Chittister, Helen Prejean, Father Thomas Reese sj, Nicole Winfield, Cindy Wooden, John Allen Jr (ex-NCR) and other contributors of the NCR make an objective and factual error in their interpretation of Vatican Council II. No one denies it or is willing to comment.
NO COMMENT FROM THE NCR
I mentioned on this blog yesterday that 'the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational). There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter.' I have e-mailed them.
If the NCR interpreted Vatican Council II rationally (invisible cases of LG 16 etc are invisible in 2024) they would return to Tradition.
When Vatican Council II is interpreted with LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2 and GS 22 being only hypothetical cases in 2024 and so non objective cases and so not exceptions for the dogma EENS, the exclusivist Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the ecclesiocentric Athanasius Creed, they hold the same doctrines on salvation as the traditionalists. The NCR, with Vatican Council II ( rational) affirms the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass of the 16th century. They are in harmony with the St. Benedict Centers in the USA.
If the NCR interpreted Vatican Council II rationally (invisible cases of LG 16 are invisible) then they would be affirming ‘the strict interpretation of EENS’, the Feeneyite version of the Church Councils which defined EENS (1215 Fourth Lateran Council etc). The NCR has an obligation to correct itself on Vatican Council II and EENS since this is the norm of the Catholic Church. It is not the teaching of only the religious community the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Catholics in general need to help the NCR correct its mistake. This is not only the responsibilty of the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire.
I repeat, interpreting Vatican Council II and EENS rationally, honestly and traditionally, is not only the responsibility of the St. Benedict Centers of Fr. Leonard Feeney in the USA.Since now Vatican Council II ( AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 845,846) are Feeneyite.
All Catholic religious communities, all, must interpret Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with Tradition in general.
We now know that the liberalism in the Church has come through Vatican Council II, irrational i.e. invisible cases of Lumen Gentium 16 (being saved in ignorance, a good conscience and with no fault of the person), for example, are interpreted as being visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2024 and so are objective exceptions for the dogma EENS and the traditional ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.
The general liberalism is foreign to the Church. It cannot exist in the name of Vatican Council II, which can only be interpreted rationally. There is only one ethical choice.
OBLIGATION TO BE ETHICAL
The NCR has an obligation, ethically, to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally i.e. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 in Vatican Council refer to only hypothetical cases in 2024. It means there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II), for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. The past exclusivist ecclesiology must now be supported by all religious communities and not only the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Centers.
PAPAL DOCUMENTS BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONAL
The NCR, Catholic News Service, Catholic News Agency etc can no more justify , Amoris Laetitia , Traditionis Custode and Fiducia Supplicans in the name of Vatican Council II. Since the Council must be interpreted only rationally by all- Catholics and non Catholics. These Church Documents were issued with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and dishonestly.
TRADITIONALISTS FORTE IS VATICAN COUNCIL II
It is the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary whose forte is now Vatican Council II and the NCR is on the defensive.
1) The NCR has not been able to issue a statement/report/article on Vatican Council II as interpreted rationally by Brother Andre Marie micm, Prior, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Benedict Center, Richmond, NH, USA.
2) Neither is the NCR able to comment on the reports which state that the Prefect of Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith and journalists in Rome ( Nicole Winfied, AP etc) interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally.If they would interpret the Council rationally and so ethically, they would be Feeneyite on EENS like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in New Hampshire.
3. The faculty of theology and the rector of the University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum) in Rome, agree with me. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc can only be interpreted as being invisible people. They are are always only invisible in 2024.The NCR, like Reuters and the Associated Press, are not willing to interview the Theology Faculty at the Angelicum and neither the Master General of the Dominicans. There is no comment from the NCR.
CATHOLIC ANSWERS
4. Catholic Answers (Jimmy Akins/ Karl Keating) for political reasons avoids being ecclesiocentric. So their apologists interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times. They adapt this objective error to their liberal apologetics.
FEENEYISM WAS THE NORM OVER THE CENTURIES
Over the centuries the Church was Feeneyite, since the baptism of desire etc were interpreted rationally (invisible cases are invisible). Feeneyism was the norm for all Catholics. It is the same today with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Feeneyism is not restricted to the St. Benedict Centers in New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Los Angeles, USA. Religious communities from, Poland, Hungary etc, who are now in Rome, are still Feeneyite. Religious communities which have correctly rejected Vatican Council II, irrational and the objective mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston are still traditional and Feeneyite.-Lionel Andrades
MARCH 28, 2024
The correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational).There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter
MARCH 27, 2024
We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS
In that dispute, the Diocese of Manchester had accused the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire, of violating canon law, according to Todd & Weld. The Saint Benedict Center and its members, who call themselves, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, had promoted the position held by their founder, a Jesuit priest named Leonard Feeney, that salvation is only possible through the Catholic Church.
Feeney, who died in 1978, was excommunicated for this view, though he was later reconciled to the church.
The Southern Poverty Law Center also added the center to a list of hate groups in 2007 for its members' antisemitic beliefs.
In 2019, the Diocese of Manchester forbade Catholics from participating in activities with the center and the center from calling itself Catholic because they said that they had warned the group that their position is contrary to Vatican teaching.- Right-wing Catholic outlet Church Militant to close in April
https://www.ncronline.org/news/right-wing-catholic-outlet-church-militant-close-april
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/the-national-catholic-reporter-crux.html
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