Conservative modernists.The weblog Rorate Caeili is traditionalist and modernist.It chooses to interpret Vatican Council II with the Irrational Premise and Inference.In this way it deceptively creates a Non Traditional Conclusion which is a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) , the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors ( Feeneyite).This is approved by the Left.This allows Rorate to keep his web blog and his bank account.He is not persecuted like the apologist Robert Sungenis.
So FG the owner of the weblog Rorate Caeili, who writes as 'New Catholic' and does not disclose his real name, does not tell his readers to interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise. He needs the Irrational Premise to create a break with Tradition. He wants Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. He seems to need this to survive.
If he interprets the Council rationally, i.e assuming UR 3, LG 8,14 and 16, NA 2, GS 22 refer to only hypothetical cases in 2022; invisible people, then the Council does not have any practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Now he prudently projects UR 3, LG 8,14 and 16, NA 2, GS 22 as being physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times. For him they are personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church without faith and the baptism of water.So they become objective exceptions for the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is the dogma opposed by the One World Religion, Great Reset -people.
Even after being informed over the last 10 years he maintains the same deception, as the liberals on Vatican Council II. Now in a series of leftist propaganda reports posted by Don Pietro Leone, FG interprets Vatican Council II with visible -for -him UR 3 etc. He refers to visible exceptions for the strict interpretation of EENS. So there is no more an ecumenism of return. Theologically he supports the New Ecumenism of the liberals.
FG also posts reports of Roberto dei Mattei who has his office in a Church complex in Rome. He is a liberal on Vatican Council II, EENS, the Creeds etc, like the present two popes.
Attending only the Latin Mass does not make you a traditionalist. Mattei is a conservative modernist.This group claim they support Tradition but throw away the original interpretation of the Creeds.
NICENE CREED CHANGED
For Mattei the Nicene Creed says, ‘ I believe in three or more baptisms ( desire, blood etc) which exclude the baptism of water.’ They would have to exclude the baptism of water for him, otherwise the good professor, who has made a big contribution for the Catholic Church with his writings and talks, would be supporting Feeneyite EENS.This would not be politically correct with the Left.
ATHANASIUS CREED CHANGED
An important Italian historian, who has written books on the Council, Mattei projects known exceptions for the Athanasius Creed which says all need the Catholic faith for salvation. This is irrational.
For him the Apostles Creed says ‘ I believe in the
Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, which today teaches that outside the Church there is known salvation and which before 1949 taught that outside the Church there is no salvation.' There is a change.The new revelation in the Church seems to have come for many, conservative and liberals, from Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.
For the conservative modernists ( who keep repeating that modernism is the synthesis of all heresies) the baptism of desire refers to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times.So for them there are objective exceptions for EENS according to saints Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, Francis Xavier, Anthony Marie Claret, Teresa of Avila, Francis of Assisi, Catherine of Siena etc.
THEY DO NOT BLAME THEIR PREMISE
So they blame the Council as a break with Tradition and and not their irrational premise. They do not choose to interpret the Council rationally.They affirm the modernism in public for personal and private reasons.
They do not want to be martyrs.-Lionel Andrades
The Rorate Caeili, Roberto dei Mattei, Don Pietro Leone interpretation of the Council is political. It supports the Left by creating alleged exceptions ( LG 8,14,16 etc) for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-rorate-caeili-roberto-dei-mattei.html
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