Michael Voris produced a critical video against Bishop Roberto Barron which was emotional. Instead he should have pointed out the simple facts.

 

Michael Voris produced a critical video against Bishop Roberto Barron which was emotional. Instead he should have pointed out the simple facts.

1. Bishop Barron interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and inference and so his conclusion is non traditional. Without this error Barron would have to affirm EENS and Tradition( Syllabus etc) like the traditionalists at the St. Benedict Centers, USA.

He would then be called Radical Traditionalist.

2.It is unethical and deceptive for the bishop to interpret the Creeds and Catechisms  with an irrationality and create a division in the Church, with the past Magisterium. His approach is false.

3. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the USCCB and Pope Francis must affirm Vatican Council II, EENS and other Magisterial documents( Athanasius Creed, Nicene Creed etc) without the false premise and set a precedent for Bishop Robert Barron and the USCCB cardinals and Bishops to do the same.-Lionel Andrades 

Dr.Joseph Shaw does not want to affirm Feeneyite EENS and so interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise. He wants to use the false premise. So he says 'the shepherds must decide' on the issue of salvation. He did not say the shepherds must decide on Amoris Laetitia or the errors of Mons. Loftus or the many petitions he was associated with, with appeals to Pope Francis.

 Dr.Joseph Shaw does not want to affirm Feeneyite EENS and so interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise. He wants to use the false premise. So he says 'the shepherds must decide' on the issue of salvation. He did not say the shepherds must decide on Amoris Laetitia or the errors of Mons. Loftus or the many petitions he was associated with, with appeals to Pope Francis.

If LG 16 is an exception to EENS then there is a rupture with Tradition. But if LG 16 is not an exception to EEBNS then there is no hermenutic of rupture with Tradition( Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc).

He does not want to affirm Vatican Council II with LG 16 not being an exception to EENS, Syllabus etc. -Lionel Andrades

AUGUST 25, 2020

The confusion and problem arises when the liberals and the Lefebvrists assume BOD refers to a personally known person saved outside the Church. Then they project this case as a known exception to the norm

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-confusion-and-problem-arises-when.html

Dr.Joseph Shaw interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise.So he is not a Radical Traditionalists for the liberal bishops of Britain. But if he interpreted Vatican Council II and EENS without the false premise he would be a RT and may be not allowed to teach at the Benedictines St.Benet Hall, Oxford. The Benedictines and Dominicans at Oxford are not RTs since they use the false premise.

 

Dr.Joseph Shaw interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise.So he is not a Radical Traditionalists for the liberal bishops of Britain.

But if he interpreted Vatican Council II and EENS without the false premise he would be a RT and may be not allowed to teach at the Benedictines St.Benet Hall, Oxford.

The Benedictines and Dominicans at Oxford are not RTs since they use the false premise. -Lionel Andrades

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If Bishop Robert Barron chooses to interpret Vatican Council II without a false premise he becomes a Radical Traditionalist. Conservative Catholics should be informing him about this. It is only with the deception; when he interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, that he can pass off as a liberal.

 

If Bishop Robert Barron chooses to interpret Vatican Council II without  a false premise he becomes a Radical Traditionalist.

Conservative Catholics should be informing him about this.

It is only with the deception; when he interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, that he can pass off as a liberal. -Lionel Andrades

The ADL, SPLC is not allowing Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Prof. Roberto dei Mattei to affirm the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So they have to continue to interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechisms with the false premise to create a false rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus etc).

 The ADL, SPLC is not allowing Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Prof. Roberto dei Mattei to affirm the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So they have to continue to interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechisms  with the false premise to create a false rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus etc). -Lionel Andrades

Bishop Robert Barron would indicate that Michael Voris is a Radical Traditionalist.CMTV does not tell Barron and the USCCB that without the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II they are Radical Traditionalists.

 Bishop Robert Barron would indicate that Michael Voris is a Radical Traditionalist.CMTV does not tell Barron and the USCCB that without the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II they are Radical Traditionalists. -Lionel Andrades

Dont buy any new books on Vatican Council II. They all have an objective error. They use a false premise and inference. In this way they create a false rupture with Tradition. The books of Bishop Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall were written with this error but so also those of Paul Lakeland and. Fr. Jared Wicks Sj.

 Dont buy any new books on Vatican Council II. They all have an objective error. They use a false premise and inference. In this way they create a false rupture with Tradition. The books of Bishop Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall were written with this error but so also those of Paul Lakeland and. Fr. Jared Wicks Sj. -Lionel Andrades

Cardinal Walter Kasper would become a Radical Traditionalist if he did not use the irrational premise to interpret Vatican Council II.

 

Cardinal Walter Kasper would become a Radical Traditionalist if he did not use the irrational premise to interpret Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades

If Lumen Gentium 16 is an exception to EENS there is a rupture with Tradition. But if LG 16 is not an exception to EENS there is no hermeneutic of rupture.

 If Lumen Gentium 16 is an exception to EENS there is a rupture with Tradition. But if LG 16 is not an exception to EENS there is no hermeneutic of rupture. -Lionel Andrades

If Lumen Gentium 16 is visible then there is a break with Tradition. But if LG 16 is invisible, hypothetical and theoretical only, there is no break with EENS, Syllabus etc. There is no break with the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

 If Lumen Gentium 16 is visible then there is a break with Tradition. But if LG 16 is invisible, hypothetical and theoretical only, there is no break with EENS, Syllabus etc. There is no break with the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.- Lionel Andrades

Why should we accept what Lefebvrist Bishop Schneider says. He does not answer questions. He also has an agenda, an ideology.He is obligated to affirm Lumen Gentium 16 as an exception to EENS. The liberals and Masons want this.

 

Why should we accept what Lefebvrist Bishop Schneider says. He does not answer questions. He also has an agenda, an ideology.He is obligated to affirm Lumen Gentium 16 as an exception to EENS. The liberals and Masons want this. -Lionel Andrades

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