Friday, July 28, 2023

Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II

  Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II. At the end of the day, you are interpreting Vatican Council II, irrationally and I am choosing the rational and traditional option. I am ethical. You are not!The pope is not!

EMBARASSING

It is embarrassing to have to write about this and also again and again, but this is the reality. Our pope is in public mortal sin and in this condition is not Catholic; he is not in communion with Jesus and his Mystical Body the Church. He has to interpret the Councils, Creeds and Catechisms rationally –and so traditionally, just like me.

A pope cannot violate the Principle of Non Contradiction of Aristotle. How can someone saved in Heaven also be visible on earth at the same time? Yet this is the teaching of Pope Francis, the cardinals and bishops.

I am a simple lay man. But I have spoken and written to many Catholics who have academic degrees in theology and philosophy and they all have to agree with me.They agree with me. Even non Catholics agree with me.

Since the central point of what I say and write on this blog is that I cannot physically see any one saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. If someone was saved outside the Church, without Catholic faith and the baptism of water, it could only be known to God.

So when I speak with liberals and leftists they agree with me. They also say that they cannot physically see any one saved outside the Church with the baptism of water (LG 14) or in invincible ignorance (I.I), or seeds of the Word (AG 11) or imperfect communion with the Church (NA 2), or elements of sanctification of grace and truth in other religions (LG 8), or where the Catholic Church subsists outside its visible boundaries(LG 8) …The liberals agree with me. They all agree with me! Not a single one of them opposes me. They may not like it, but they agree with me.

Since what I am saying is common sense. It is something obvious. We humans cannot see someone being saved outside the Church in 2023. They could not see any exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in 1965 and neither in 1949 when the Letter of the Holy Office (CDF) to the Archbishop of Boston, was issued. So there  was an error of the CDF in 1949 which was overlooked by Pope Pius XII and the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Richard Cushing.

So it is a great satisfaction-and amusement, for me, when Catholics cite Rahner, Congar, Ratzinger, Murray, Balthazar and the others. I keep saying, ‘so what if they said this or that?’, When I interpret Vatican Council II, the Council is traditional and exclusivist.Always! This is irrespective of what Pope Paul VI, Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre believed -wrongly.

So it is meaningless when the SSPX-priests talk about Congar and Bea and what they did. ‘Who cares anymore?!!’ .The Council is traditional and exclusivist for me. It has to be the same for everyone else.

IGNORANCE AT THE SYNOD

So it is important to view the ignorance of all those involved in these Synods. How can Bishop Batzing, who will be present at the October Synod interpret Vatican Council II, irrationally?  Who gives him his authority? How can Pope Francis and the cardinals and bishops choose to interpret Vatican Council II, irrationally- who gives them this right?

How can it be Magisterial to change the original interpretation of the Nicene Creed? How can there be a new version of the Apostles Creed? How can they reject the Athanasius Creed? They can no more use Vatican Council II, irrational, as a theological reason. There cannot be a New Theology based upon assuming invisible people are visible in the present times.

The Church has changed. The Council interpreted rationally has taken the Church back home, back to the past. Rome is moving, finally, towards the Faith.

It is unfortunate that the SSPX has not issued a statement on the Synod, announcing that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to only theoretical cases in 2023.

This is all. This is all they have to do.

 They must issue this statement and things will fall into place for those who will vote at the Synod and who are really not eligible. Since they do not have the Catholic faith. They do not accept Vatican Council II and the Creeds etc rationally. For them LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 refer to physically visible cases. This is unacceptable for grown up me. They imply that what we humans, in general,  cannot see,  they have the physical ability to see. In this way they avoid the charge of being Feeneyite on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, like the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council of Florence.

The Church has return to the Council of Florence. Vatican Council II has taken us there.

- Lionel Andrades



JULY 27, 2023

Catholics must appeal to the Synod voters to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally and ask Pope Francis and the cardinals and bishops to do the same.

 


Catholics must appeal to the Synod voters to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally and ask Pope Francis and the cardinals and bishops to do the same. It is dishonest to interpret LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS etc, as referring to physically visible cases in 1965-2023, who are saved outside the Church; without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. This is irrational. Such cases are outside our human reality and would only be known to God.

So the liberalism of the Synod 2023 is obsolete. It has no theological foundation in Vatican Council II when LG 8, LG 14, LG 15, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, Gs 22 etc, refer to physically invisible cases, always.

The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance never ever were exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (CDF/DDF) to the Archbishop of Boston with reference to Fr. Leonard Feeney made an objective mistake. It confused what was not there as being there. Then it   created a new theology which says outside the Church there is known salvationthere is visible salvation.

So when Pope Francis chooses to interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church rationally ( LG 16 is an invisible case in 2023),then cardinals Sean O’Malley, Robert McEnroe, Blaise Cupich, Gerhard Muller and all the USCCB bishops must do the same.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/catholics-must-appeal-to-synod-voters.html





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