In John Henry Weston’s interview of Eric Sammons on outside the Church there is no salvation there is no mention of Traditionis Custode and its direct link to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

 

In John Henry Weston’s interview of Eric Sammons on outside the Church there is no salvation there is no mention of Traditionis Custode and its direct link to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

They have not discussed how there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II and how Traditional Custode is referring to the irrtational one.

Pope Benedict  also wanted the Society of St. Pius X and the traditionalists  to interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational premise instead of the rational premise, inference and traditional conclusion.With the false premise there is a rupture with EENS. Without the rational premise there is no rupture but a continuity with Tradition.

There is Decree of Prohbitions placed against the traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, NH. USA by the Diocese of Manchester and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They want the SBC to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 847-848 Invincible ignorance ) with fake premise and so create a rupture with traditional outside the Church there is no salvation.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Fr. Davide Pagaliarani,did not intervene or comment on this doctrinal issue.Since they interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with a false premise and so they create a rupture with EENS according to the missionaries of the 16th century, at the Traditional Latin Mass.

These are all points which were not talked about in the interview and the comments on the book written by Eric Sammons.

In the interview they had to show that the liturgy is not responsible for the break with outside the Church there is no salvation and there is a general misunderstanding about the Latin Mass.

Even at Mass in the vernacular  if Vatican Council II is

 interpreted rationally, there is no rupture with the

 Catechism of the Catholic Church(24Q,27Q) and the

 dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.-Lionel Andrades

JULY 30, 2021

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Leaders of Prayer groups in the parish interpret the Creeds,Catechisms and Vatican Council II irrationally : it was the same when the Latin Mass was available in the parish

 

LEADERS OF PRAYER GROUPS IN THE PARISH INTERPRET THE CREEDS, CATECHISMS AND VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONALLY : IT WAS THE SAME WHEN THE LATIN MASS WAS AVAILABLE IN THE PARISH.

In my parish,Santa Maria di Nazareth,Boccea,Rome, leaders of prayer groups deny the Catholic Faith when they interpret the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II irrationally and are still given the Eucharist.The use of the false premise is common and un-noticed.
Maria is an Italian teacher in a college and assists with the Padre Pio Prayer Group of the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome.She organised a pilgrimage a few years back to San Giovanni Rotondo and I accompanied them.
Massimo leads the rosary at the morning weekly Mass in Italian.Many years back I would attend the Latin Mass in this parish but now it is prohibited. 

Ennio has been a catechist and often leads the prayers and processions.

Giorgio is an active and good catechist with whom young people seem comfortable.
But in  general the parishioners employ a false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Magisterial documents of the Catholic Church. They do not use a rational premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II etc. This would produce a traditional conclusion and would have a continuity with the past.

So their interpretation of the Creeds with the false premise is first class heresy. It is schism with the past Magisterium over the centuries.

When the Creeds are rejected or their original meaning changed, it is a mortal sin of faith.There is the need for the Sacrament of Reconciliation and correcting the error in public.The faith needs to be affirm on these points in public.
It is difficult for the lay parishioners to do this when the parish priests do not do the same.

FAKE PREMISE OF CATHOLIC PRAYER GROUPS

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

FAKE INFERENCE OF CATHOLIC PRAYER GROUPS

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

FAKE CONCLUSION CATHOLIC PRAYER GROUPS
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed (outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

RATIONAL PREMISE OF LIONEL ANDRADES

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

RATIONAL INFERENCE OF LIONEL ANDRADES

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

RATIONAL CONCLUSION OF LIONEL ANDRADES

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake it used the false premise, inference and conclusion.-Lionel  Andrades

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