Tuesday, December 12, 2017

Muslims have to begin and end their prayers to God with the name of Mohammad whom the Catholic Church considers lost for all eternity since he died without 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II)

Muslims during the birthday celebrations of the prophet Mohammad(Milad ul Nabi) in Muslims countries sing religious songs(Naats) in praise of Mohammad.They put other Muslims in prison,who believe in Allah, but do not accept Mohammad as the last prophet of God.They have to begin and end their prayers to God with the name of Mohammad whom the Catholic Church considers lost for all eternity since he died without 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II) 1
-Lionel Andrades



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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/sspx-cannot-accept-vatican-council-ii.html

They will not say that all Muslims are going to Hell according to the Catholic Church, without the Jewish Left angle

Hilary White, Michael Matt and Christopher Ferrara do not want to upset the Jewish Left.They will not say that all Muslims are going to Hell according to the Catholic Church, without the Jewish Left angle.1
-Lionel Andrades


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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/sspx-cannot-accept-vatican-council-ii.html

Neither is Roberto dei Mattei nor Maike Hickson willing to affirm the old ecclesiology of the Church with Feeneyite EENS and with such a big doctrinal and theological divide among us they are talking about the pope being in heresy.

MH: You seem to suggest that the Pope may be promoting schism and heresy in the Church. What would be the consequences of this most grave situation? Would not the Pope lose his authority as Pope? 
RDM: One cannot sum up such an important and complex problem in a few words. On this point it is necessary to have a theological debate, on which topic one may refer to the volume True or False Pope by Robert J. Sisco and John Salza, to the writings of Abbott Jean-Michel Gleize in [the French journal] Courrier de Rome and above all to the study of Arnaldo Xavier da Silveira, Ipotesi teologica di un Papa eretico [Theological hypotheses about a heretic Pope], the Italian edition of which I edited in 2016 and also the next edition in English. The author, whose basic position I share, develops the thesis of the medieval decretists, of St. Robert Bellarmine, and of modern theologians like Pietro Ballerini, according to whom, while there is a basic incompatibility between [holding] heresy and [holding] papal authority, the Pope does not lose his office until his heresy becomes apparent to the entire Church. 
https://abyssum.org/2017/12/11/professor-roberto-de-mattei-offers-us-clarifications-and-good-advice-as-we-mover-closer-to-a-formal-crisis-in-the-church/
Even if Pope Francis is in heresy so is Pope Benedict and Prof. Robero dei Mattei since they reject Vatican Council II( Feeneyite-without the premise)and they interpret Vatican Council II, with an irrational premise.They reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Feeneyite) by assuming invisible cases of the baptism of desire and baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Church as members.
So this is public heresy which Prof. Mattei has not denied all these years.
I choose to interpret Vatican Council II without the irrational premise while he does not.
I say that I am a Feeneyìte on EENS while in my brief meeting with him, he said that he is not.
For me the Nicene Creed would mean that I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and not three known baptisms, while for him it would be I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins. If there were no three or more known baptisms for him then how could the baptism of desire etc be exceptions to EENS?
For me LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 ,GS 22 refer to hypothetical cases for Prof. Mattei and the SSPX bishops and superiors they would be non hypothetical cases. So in this way they become exceptions to EENS and Tradition( old ecclesiology, Syllabus of Errors etc).So Vatican Council II emerges as a rupture with Tradition for all of them when the fault is there really with their inference.
Neither is Roberto dei Mattei not Maike Hickson willing to affirm the old ecclesiology of the Church with Feeneyite EENS and with such a big doctrinal and theological divide among us they are talking about the pope being in heresy.
Of course he is in heresy but then so are they!
-Lionel Andrades

SSPX cannot accept Vatican Council II because of the restrictions placed by the Jewish Left

If the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX ) announces that they accept Vatican Council II( Feeneyite/without the irrational premise) Rabbi Rosen  will object.He will clarify that the SSPX must only accept Vatican Council II(Cushingite/with the premise) for "good relations with the Jews(Left)".He will be supported by Rabbi Segno and Rabbi Lara in Italy with their threat.They have the Anti-Semitic law as a weapon.
But with Vatican Council II(Feeneyite/premise free) the SSPX will meet the demand to accept Vatican Council II as set by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.But it would mean the SSPX  accepts the old ecclesiology in harmony with Vatican Council II. So there can only be an ecumenism of return with the old ecclesiologly. Since the old ecclesiology does not teach that there is 'known salvation outside the Church'.
The new ecclesiology teaches that there is salvation outside the Church and so this is an opening for the new ecumenism.
So the SSPX accepting Vatican Council II would not be enough for the Vatican.It has to be accepting Vatican Council II knowing that there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church(even though there are no such known cases) and so every one does not need to be a member of the Church to avoid Hell(rejecting the dogma EENS and the Nicene Creed on there being one baptism).
Vatican Council II was never really the issue. The issue is ecclesiology.The SSPX has to interpret all magisterial documents with the irrational premise to create a new ecclesiology.
So the FSSP and Institute of Christ the King, traditionalist religious communities,are allowed by Pope Francis to offer the Tridentine Rite Mass.They proclaim the new ecclesiology.It is Cushingite.It uses the invisible people are visible premise to contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.How can invisible people in Heaven be visible at the same time without faith and baptism and instead with the baptism of desire etc? And if invisible people are not visible then how can there be exceptions to Feeneyite EENS?
So with this official irrationality the result is a non traditional conclusion.These invisible-visible non Catholics it is concluded, are examples of salvation outside the Church.So invisible- for- us- baptism of desire is a visible exception to the dogma EENS as it was known to Fr. Leonard Feeney and the old St. Benedict Center.This is the new fantasy theology which is approved by ecclesiastical Masonry.
The present St.Benedict Centres have also accepted Vatican Council II with the new ecclesiology and so are allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass.One community has canonical status ahead of the SSPX.
The SSPX knows that they simply have to make an announcement  saying they accept only Vatican Council II( Feeneyite/without the invisible people are visible premise) and then they will meet the principal demand of Ecclesia Dei,which is to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition.
But with Vatican Council II(Feeneyite/premise free) their property will be threatened by the Jewish Left.Also it could be demanded that the Vatican give the SSPX a leftist excommunication. The SSPX may not be able to legally call themself Catholic.
Any other Catholic religious community,Dominicans, Salesians, Redemptorists etc who follow the SSPX and accept Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally, will receive the same penalties from the Vatican.Since the priority of the two popes is not to be physically attacked by Mosad.
So now Catholic children in Detroit, for example, are taught Vatican Council II with the irrational premise and this is accepted by Michael Voris  and Dr. Ralph Martin there.Since they have to protect their interests.
The threats had probably come to Michael Voris and CMTV a long time back.So Michael Voris stopped supporting the traditionalists and started shouting from the roof tops that the SSPX is in schism. This is the same line as the leftist papers who work for Satan.
The SSPX still correctly chooses not to  accept Vatican Council II(Cushingite/interpreted with an irrationality) unlike Michael Voris,Louie Verrecchio, David Domet and the other Lefebvrists.
Hilary White has a blog post which says the churches in Spain are empty.They are empty since, among other reasons, there is no more fire in the Church; the fire of the Holy Spirit in proclamation.No one is saying all Jews and Muslims are going to Hell according to Vatican Council II(premise free).Hilary White, Michael Matt and Christopher Ferrara do not want to upset the Jewish Left.They will not say that all Muslims are going to Hell according to the Catholic Church, without the Jewish Left angle.
Muslims during the birthday celebrations of the prophet Mohammad(Milad ul Nabi) in Muslims countries sing religious songs(Naats) in praise of Mohammad.They put other Muslims in prison,who believe in Allah, but do not accept Mohammad as the last prophet of God.They have to begin and end their prayers to God with the name of Mohammad whom the Catholic Church considers lost for all eternity since he died without 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II)
So presently Rorate Caeili and the blog LMC Chairman regularly criticize Vatican Council II without differentiating between Vatican Council II Cushingite and Feeneyite.Since this could be costly.Vatican Council II supports the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church but they are not going to say it.
So many times Fr. John Zuhlsdorf was informed about his liberal and magisterial error on this issue.But his blog is his source of earning and he does not want the Vatican to give him the same problem with incardination,Fr. Nicholas Gruner had to unjustly face, since he would not accept Vatican Council II(Cushingite).
Fr.Gruner and  John Vennari could not understand the difference between the two interpretations of Vatican Council II or may be they too were prudently protecting the little they had.
So now if the SSPX accepts Vatican Council II (premise-free) there would be demands to excommunicate them and if they accept Vatican Council II(Cushingite) it would be affirming magisterial heresy.
-Lionel Andrades



 DECEMBER 11, 2017



Were the excommunications of Archbishop Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard Feeney leftist excommunications?: their fault was orthodoxy http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/were-excommunications-of-archbishop.html