Sunday, February 10, 2013

NO ONE COULD CITE WHERE VATICAN COUNCIL II'S IDEA OF THE CHURCH IS HERETICAL,SINCE IT IDENTIFIES ORGANIZED RELIGIONS OF PAGANS AND IDOLATORS WITH THE MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST

On the sedevacantist website it is written critically that Bishop Donald Sanborn formerly with the Society of St.Pius X has said that “Vatican II’s idea of the Church is heretical, since it identifies organized religions of pagans and idolaters with the Mystical Body of Christ.'

I was sure there was nothing in Vatican Council II to suggest this unless one assumed that implicit to us salvation was visible and so an exception. So I asked on  the Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus forum if any one could cite any passage, any text in the Council which indicates this . No one could do so.

Here are the passages from the forum.
Most Holy Family Monastery website:
Bishop Donald Sanborn: “Vatican II’s idea of the Church is heretical, since it identifies organized religions of pagans and idolaters with the Mystical Body of Christ. The truth is that in no way are pagans and idolaters, as pagans and idolaters, united to the Mystical Body of Christ. If, by some mystery of Providence and Predestination, they [pagans and idolaters] are united to the soul of the Church, and by desire to its body, it is in spite of their paganism and idolatry. It is due to an invincible ignorance of their error.”

Lionel:
Bishop Donald Sanborn: “Vatican II’s idea of the Church is heretical, since it identifies organized religions of pagans and idolaters with the Mystical Body of Christ

Can someone give us an example where Vatican Council II identifies the religions of pagans and idolaters with the Mystical Body of Christ ?
I don't think there is such a passage..

Lionel:
As I thought, Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Unless one assumes not- visible- for- us salvation is physically visible for us.
This could have been the misconception of Bishop Sanborn.

-Lionel Andrades