Monday, March 11, 2013

Fr.Jonathan Morris suggests he can physically see the dead

The priest who who has spoken on many subjects and who can be seen on Youtube is claiming something irrational though politically correct.The Fox News Channel commentator appears rational in most respects except when he suggests that he can see the dead saved who are exceptions to the traditional teaching on the need of the Church for salvation.

He was a theological consultant to Mel Gibson when the Passion was being filmed in Rome.Mel Gibson does not claim that he can see the dead. Fr.Morris does.

So for Mel Gibson every one needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church for salvation. For Fr.Morris there are known exceptions.He can physically see these exceptions. He knows them personally.

Recently in a commentary on Fox News he chose to make the irrational, non Catholic statement that every one does not have to be Catholic for salvation.

If he did not make this statement he would have caused a controversy for himself, just like Mel Gibson. He would be saying that all non Catholics, Jews included, in New York and the rest of the world, need to enter into the Catholic Church for salvation and he does not know of any exception.This would be difficult for someone who wants a career on U.S Television.-Lionel Andrades

Fr.Jonathan Morris' statement shows what is being taught in the Archdiocese of New York and the Legion of Christ communities and universities

Cardinal-Archbishop Timothy Dolan and the religious in the Archdiocese of New York are not going to say every one needs to enter the Church for salvation.


So though false, it is convenient, expedient and prudent, to say ' the church says' all do not have to convert.

Fr.Jonathan Morris on Fox News said 'as it is not like every one needs to become Catholic' indicates the Religious Education and Catechetical instruction being given by priests, which is a break with the past.It is also based on irrationality of their being known exceptions to Vatican Council (AG 7,LG 14) and the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. 

Fr.Jonathan Morris has been asked to apologise for his indifferentism.It will be very easy for him, and many Legion of Christ priests to say" I am not saying that all religions are equal" And in the next breath they will say, "All I am saying is that every one today does not have to be a visible member of the Church. There are exceptions". Could they name some case in 2013?


Could he cite some exceptions in 2013 .Give us some names, Voris asked. Does he know who does not need Catholic Faith to go to Heaven and avoid Hell?


Where does the Catechism or Vatican Council II say there are known exceptions?


If Fr.Morris is asked to explain his statement he  could  say 'The Church says that a person can be saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire' implying that the Church says that these cases are visible to us.

Why does Fr.Morris imply that there are known exceptions when no Church-text makes this claim ? It is also irrational for him to suggest that he can physically see the dead who are saved.


This is the false religious education in Rome and in the Archdiocese of New York.-Lionel Andrades
 

 

Will Father Jonathan Morris apologise?

Father Jonathan Morris needs to apologise said Michael Voris for suggesting that there are some people in 2013 whom he knows, who does not need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation. Yet this is also the error held in Fr.Jonathan Morris former community, the Legion of Christ and now also in the Archdiocese of New York where he is incardinated.
Fr.Morris a commentator for Fox News suggested recently that everone does not need to enter the Catholic Church. So Michael Vorris on Church Militant TV asked the simple question: whom does he think in particular will go to Heaven without the Catholic Church.Could he name some them?

Fr.Morris was the Vice Rector of the Legion of Christ University in Rome(UPRA) where I had been studying.He was always a liberal on this issue of other religions and salvation, like many of the priests there. May be the error was unintentional.

They all took it for granted that those saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire were explicitly known to us. These cases were physically visible and so they were an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

They also condemned Fr.Leonard Feeney as if the baptism of desire etc was relevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma.

This has also been the error of the Archbishop of New York and the priests there. They will refuse to affirm Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.This would include the non Catholics of New York.

If Father Morris apologises and corrects himself, he would be saying that all Jews and Muslims in New York need to convert into the Catholic Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell according to the teachings of the Catholic Church (Vatican Council II, Cathechism of the Catholic Church 846, Dominus Iesus 20, extra ecclesiam nulla salus etc.).
The ex-Legionaries of Christ priest is promoting indifferentism via the media and contradicting the official teaching of the Catholic Church.
 
No magisterial document says there are known exceptions in the present times to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or to Vatican Council II (AG 7).-Lionel Andrades