Friday, January 18, 2013

INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MIXES UP A POSSIBILITY OF SALVATION FOR IN REALITY, DEJURE FOR DEFACTO, IN THEORY FOR IN FACT

International Theological Commission (ITC)
10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22).-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions 1997. (Emphasis added)
            http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_1997_cristianesimo-religioni_en.html

'after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church'

There is no more Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism because of the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong to the Church?

This possibility of a person being saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance is a fact, in reality ? We know these cases, they are visible to us ? They would have to be visible to us for them to contradict the dogma which taught there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.

So now every one does not have to be a visible member of the Catholic Church since 'the possibility of salvation' is known in reality ?

The baptism of desire which can only be accepted in principle is now known defacto, explicitly.It is no more hypothetical and accepted in theory, in faith but it is physically seen and personally known?

And where does Pope Pius XII or the Letter of the Holy Office state that these possibilities are known exceptions to the dogma or that we can see these cases in real life ?-Lionel Andrades

Canada: Controversy around a conference given by Bishop Fellay

from DICI News

18-01-2013
http://www.dici.org/en/news/canada-controversy-around-a-conference-given-by-bishop-fellay/


If one says there are exceptions to something then it is implied that something must exist to be an exception. This is common knowledge.


Zero cases of something are not exceptions- John Martigioni

In reality there are no known cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.

In principle we accept the possibilty of a person being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire and these cases would be known, visible, only to God.










Every one needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church and there are no known exceptions.

If there are no known exceptions there are no exceptions to the dogma.



There are no known exceptions to every one needing to be a visible member of the Church for salvation, to go to Heaven and avoid Hell. -Lionel Andrades

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