Saturday, May 18, 2019

SSPX priests here in Italy are to afraid to discuss this. They do not want to displease Econe and create personal problems for themselves. How can they say that Archbishop Lefebvre made an objective mistake? How can they say that they were wrong about Vatican Council II these 50 years? How can they say that they were wrong on EENS too since there are no known cases of the baptism of desire etc in our human reality for them to be exceptions to EENS.The SSPX is part of the doctrinal problem in the Catholic Church.

SSPX on 'Heresy Open Letter': "A Radical Approach Doomed to Failure"

The General House of the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX) has published an extensive analysis of the open letter accusing the current Pope of heresy and published a couple of weeks ago.

We post it here for the record of events of this tumultuous pontificate.


Regarding the Open Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church

MAY 17, 2019


On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, twenty or so Catholic theologians and university professors published an Open Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church, inviting them to intervene with Pope Francis, to ask him to renounce the heresies of which he is accused. In case he persists, the canonical crime of heresy would be established, and the pope would then be “subject to the canonical consequences.” The summary published by the authors explains this last point: if Francis obstinately refuses to renounce his heresies, the bishop will then be asked to declare “that he is freely divested of the papacy.”




This summary also explains that this Letter is the third step of a process that began in the summer of 2016. The first consisted of a private letter with 45 signatories, addressed to all the cardinals and eastern patriarchs and denouncing the heresies or grave errors held or supported by the Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia. The second step presented a text titled Correctio filialis (Filial Correction), signed by 250 participants, made public in September 2017 and supported by a petition signed by 14,000 persons. It asked the pope to take a position on the grave deviations produced by his writings and his declarations. Finally, the present Open Letter, claims that Pope Francis is guilty of the crime of heresy and endeavors to prove it, because Pope Francis’ words and actions constitute a profound rejection of Catholic teaching on marriage, moral law, grace, and the forgiveness of sins. Already more than 5,000 people have signed the petition put online by the authors.

This initiative reveals the growing irritation and exasperation of many Catholics in the face of the writings and acts of the current Sovereign Pontiff. And certainly, there is good reason to worry when faced with Pope Francis’ teaching in moral matters. Moreover, there is a greater disturbance in Catholic opinion today over an error in this domain, than duplicity against the Faith. But the pope’s teaching is also deviant—if not more so—in matters of Faith.
Lionel : Yes on the issue of faith and salvation there is enough proof that both the popes have rejected ex cathedra teachings of the past and even changed the Creeds and Catechisms. The proof is there on line.But the error could be one of ignorance. Since the Cushingite mistake is common in the Church.Even the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) is guilty.
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Faced with an apparently unprecedented situation—although Church history, unfortunately, offers examples of time periods that were singularly troubled and close enough to ours—the temptation to resort to extreme measures can be easily understood. The situation of Catholicism is today so tragic, that only with difficulty could one condemn Catholics who try the impossible by reacting to and calling out the pastors to whom the flock is entrusted.

The Fruits of the Council

Nevertheless, it must first be noted that the trouble did not start yesterday. It began with the “third world war” that was, according to Archbishop Lefebvre, the Second Vatican Council.
Lionel: Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism and the conclusion is different. Cushingism causes the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition. Archbishop Lefebvre like the SSPX bishops was a  Cushingite.
We now know that if the SSPX leadership  interprets Vatican Council II with Feeneyism the Council will be traditional on EENS, the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. So the fault finally does not lie with Vatican Council II but with their irrational premise and inference the SSPX uses to interpret the Council .
Catholics have confirmed that there are no exceptions to EENS in Vatican Council II, unless a false premise and inference is used to interpret the Council .There is no comment from the SSPX over the last few years.
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That Council, through its reforms, provoked “the auto-destruction of the Church” (Paul VI), by sowing ruin and desolation in the areas of faith, morals, discipline, priestly and religious life, the liturgy, catechism, and the entirety of Catholic life. But few observers really realize that. Even more rare still are those who will confront this universal destruction in a determined and effective way.
Lionel: Pope Paul VI like Archbishop Lefebvre interpreted the Council with Cushingism. No one told them that a rational alternative existed. No one still seems to know about it at the SSPX Headquarters.
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In fact, what we are witnessing with Pope Francis is only the ripening of the fruit. The poisoned fruit of a plant whose seed was developed in the progressive and modernist theological laboratories of the 1950s, like a GMO (genetically modified organism), a type of impossible interbreeding between Catholic doctrine and the liberal spirit. What is appearing today is no worse than Vatican II's novelties, but it is now a more visible and more complete manifestation. Just as the Assisi meeting under John Paul II in 1986 was only the fruit of the seeds of ecumenical and interfaith dialogue deposited at the Council, likewise the present pontificate illustrates the inevitable outcomes of the Second Vatican Council.
Lionel: This is the outcome of Vatican Council II( Cushingite). Since with Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) there is no theological bases for the new ecumenism, new theology, new ecclesiology etc.
The Council supports Feeneyite EENS. The SSPX wants to reject Feeneyite EENS for whatever reason.
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A Radical Approach Doomed to Failure
The second observation focuses on the modus operandi. Given the radical way in which the successors of the apostles are called out, we have to question what results are expected from such an action. Is this way of doing things prudent? Does it have a chance to succeed?
Lionel: Bishop Bernard Fellay, former Superior of the SSPX was a signatory of one of these petitions.
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Let's ask about the recipients. Who are they? What formation have they received? What theology has been taught to them? How were they chosen? Given the way in which the incriminating texts have been received by the various episcopates in the world, it is highly probable, even certain, that the vast majority of bishops will not react. With a few exceptions, all of them seem to be prisoners of their corrupt formation and of a paralyzing collegiality if, by chance, one or the other wanted to be different.
Lionel: They have the same Cushingite formation as is being given at the SSPX seminaries.They interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingism.This is standard in the secular and pontifical universities in Rome.The SSPX seminaries are producing standard Cushingites.
They are taught that invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to EENS. They all swallow this.
They are also taught that unknown cases of LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are known exceptions to EENS. They all nod in unison.
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And if they remain silent? What will happen then? What must be done? If this is not to note the failure of such an initiative that might ridicule the authors and their cause. This Open Letter is a waste of time—an action producing little effect, the fruit of a legitimate indignation but which falls into excess, at the risk of lessening its good influence.

Moreover, the danger of this approach may be in inducing its authors to deviate from the ongoing fight. We risk being captivated by the present evil, forgetting that it has roots, that it is a logical result of a tainted process at its origin. Like a pendulum, some believe they can magnify the recent past to better denounce the present, including counting on the magisterium of the popes of the Council—from Paul VI to Benedict XVI—to oppose Francis. This is the position of many conservatives, who forget that Pope Francis is only drawing out the consequences of the teachings of the Council and his predecessors. We cannot uproot an evil tree by only cutting off the last branch …
Lionel: He is only drawing on Cushingism.The SSPX does the same.
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The Example of Archbishop Lefebvre 
“What to do?”, some ask. Without parochialism or misplaced pride, we can say there is an example to follow, that of the Athanasius of modern times—Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
Lionel: He made an objective error on EENS and Vatican Council II.He was a Cushingite.
Cushingism is irrational, non traditional and it creates heresy.
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Indeed, he spoke firmly against the direction taken by the modern popes. But in his fight for the Faith, he avoided falling into excess and never claimed to want to resolve all the problems inflicted on Catholic conscience by the crisis the Church that has been going on for more than half a century. He never lost the respect due to legitimate authority, but he knew how to correct firmly without allowing himself to judge it as if he were superior to it, while leaving to the Church of the future the task of resolving a presently insoluble question.
Lionel : He could point out the effects of Cushingism. But he was not aware of Cushingism being the precise cause of the bad effects he noticed e.g new ecumenism etc.
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Archbishop Lefebvre fought on the doctrinal front, first at the Council, then with his many writings and conferences to combat the liberal and modernist hydra.
Lionel: He lost on the doctrinal front. He was not aware of the doctrinal error of the SSPX caused by Cushingism. Cushingism is an irrational philosophy and theology. He did not seem to have a clue to it.
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He fought on the front of tradition, both liturgical and disciplinary, to preserve the Church's ancient and august Sacrifice, by assuring the formation of priests chosen to perpetuate this essential action for the continuity of the Church.

He fought on the Roman front, calling out the ecclesiastical authorities on the excesses of Peter's barque, without ever getting tired or hardening, always in the light of a wonderful prudence drawn from prayer and strengthened by the examples and the teachings of 20 centuries of the papacy.

The results have proven that this was the right manner, the right way,
Lionel : It has failed.
Rome has not come back to the faith. Since the SSPX has not come back to the faith due to Cushingism.

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as St. Paul said: “Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine” (II Tim 4:2). May the Virgin, our Queen, terrible as an army arrayed in battle, help us to “labor until our last breath for the restoration of all things in Christ, for the spreading of His Kingdom, and for the preparation of the glorious triumph of [her] Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart” (Consecration of the Society of Saint Pius X).

(Source : FSSPX/MG [Maison générale -General House] - 05/17/2019)
Lionel: May be the SSPX in good faith can respond to this report or the many reports earlier on the same subject.The SSPX priests here in Italy are to afraid to discuss this. They do not want to displease Econe and create personal problems for themselves. How can they say that Archbishop Lefebvre made an objective mistake? How can they say that they were wrong about Vatican Council II these 50 years? How can they say that they were wrong on EENS too since there are no known cases of the baptism of desire etc in our human reality for them to be exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.How can they say that Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct and the Holy Office 1949 made an objective mistake ? The SSPX is part of the doctrinal problem in the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades

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At Medugorje Our Lady breaks the hold of Satan

If the seers at Medugorje ask Our Lady if there are known cases of BOD,BOB and I.I and LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc 1 in 2019 and so there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) ?- she would answer YES.This was her answer at the apparitions in Brazil.She supported exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
At Medugorje Our Lady answers personal questions.
When Chiara Amirante first went to Medugorje as a young lady something must have happened there. There is something special about the place.It's not just the peace among the mountains.There is something special there.In this sense Medugorje is not the seers.It's the place.The area. Chiara could have gone there and her rebellious heart could have been completely changed.I don't know.But this would  be normal for Medugorje. When I returned home from Medugorje I remember telling the parish priest that the people pray so fervently at Medugorje. I asked why did it not happen in the parishes ?
Medugorje I know changes your heart. There is something good there.
I laugh to myself when I think how Chiara Amirante had so many meetings with Pope Francis  trying to convince him about the importance of Medugorje.She must have really got it at Medugorje.
I spent some three months there at Medugorje and I did not want to leave.
When I returned home I realized that Our Lady had changed my heart without me knowing it.I could not teach Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation and nor could I practise the advanced meditation, the TM-Sidhi program.There was a revulsion for many New Age things.
Now when I see thousands of priests at Medugorje I know they are not there out of curiosity.Our Lady is zapping them from within.It's a great grace just being there.She breaks the hold of Satan. People of all faiths, different faiths come there and something happens.It's not just the Catholics.
Even though Medugorje is Catholic, Our Lady is Mother to all.
Then why do I write on EENS people may wonder ?
Since she wants me to do so.She helps me.Otherwise how could I have carried on for so long.The Sacraments are important for her.I was regular at evening Mass at Medugorje when I was there.I would also participate in Fr. Slavko's fasting program.
On the last Saturday of the month here in Rome, there is Eucharistic Adoration, which was officiated by Fr. Gabriel Amorth, at the church San Camillio de Lellis. Fr. Amorth has passed away. But the meetings are now shifted to a Franciscan church in in the centre of Rome.Last month the church was full. There were lay people who had been to Medugorje at some time.Something wonderful happened to them there.
This has been the experience of countless people. They simply go there and then come back and find themself different.Why, how?. We don't know.-Lionel Andrades
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Baptism of desire (BOD),Baptism of blood(BOB)  and invincible ignorance (I.I) and Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16, Unitiatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aetate  2, Gaudium et Specs 22 















MAY 1, 2018



Medjugorje Sun Miracles caught of film!!!


























If the pope can change his mind on Medugorje he can also announce the obvious- he could say that the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to personally unknown and invisible people.

If the pope can change his mind on Medugorje he can also announce the obvious- he could say that the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to personally unknown and invisible people.They are not people whom we know who are saved outside the Catholic Church. They are not literal examples of salvation outside the Church.
 POPE FRANCIS CHIARA AMIRANTE
The Catholic Church then goes back to outside the Church there is no salvation.Hypothetical cases       are not objective examples of non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water.
He would then also be saying that LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc are not exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). It means EENS today is the same as it was during the 16th century.
Theologically Catholics would get back their identity.
-Lionel Andrades

 

May 17, 2019


Pope Francis says he is responsible for saving Medugorje - but we have to really thank Chiara Amirante 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/pope-francis-says-he-is-responsible-for.html

 

May 4, 2019

Vatican Council II(Cushingite) creates a rupture with the Nicene Creed. This should be sufficient reason for Pope Francis to change ship and desert the old crew

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/vatican-council-iicushingite-creates.html

 

MAY 4, 2019

Pope Francis in good conscience could affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and reject Vatican Council II( Cushingite)