Thursday, March 11, 2021

There are two interpretations of the Apostles Creed. There are two interpretations of the Nicene Creed. There are two interpretations of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II

 There are two interpretations of the Apostles Creed.

There are two interpretations of the Nicene Creed.

There are two interpretations of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II.

There are two interpretations of the Catechisms.

If the baptism of the desire(BOD), baptism of blood and invincible ignorance(I.I) refer to physically invisible cases for you the Apostles Creed  changes - it is different for me.

If BOD etc refers to physically visible cases for you, then there could be salvation outside the Church for you.Then you have rejected the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.But where are these physically visible cases ? How can you a human see someone saved in Heaven without faith and the baptism of water ?

You cannot.

So then there cannot be two interpretations of EENS, for me. My interpretation of the Creeds is the same as the past Magisterium. I am in communion with the saints on EENS the popes and cardinals are not.

Their interpretation would have to be different since their premise is different. They consider what is invisible as being physically visible.-Lionel Andrades

How can Pope Francis choose an irrational interpretation of the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II and can he still be the pope ?

 How can the Catholic Church today have two interpretations of the Apostles and Nicene Creed? How can Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria reject the Athanasius Creed ?

How can there be two interpretations of the Apostles and Nicene Creed and the two popes proclaim an irrational version? 


How can Pope Francis choose an irrational interpretation of the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II and can he still be the pope ? - Lionel Andrades

My interpretation of the Apostles and Nicene Creed is different from that of the Rectors and Parish Priests whom I know

 My interpretation of the Apostles and Nicene Creed is different from that of the Rectors  and Parish Priests whom I know. Our interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( EENS) and being saved with the baptism of desire and invincible are also different. So for me there are two interpretations of all the Catechisms  which mention BOD and I.I.

The common interpretation is irrational and non traditional and mine is rational and traditional Since I avoid the false premise. -Lionel Andrades

Pope Francis quotes Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with the teaching on exclusive salvation. Without the manifest error he would have to support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.Now he creates schism with the past Magisterium


(5:46 time on Video) Pope Francis quotes Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athansius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX,Vatican Council II( AG 7) etc.Without this false premise and that of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican Council II supports exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church which he does not affirm. With the false premise he creates schism with the past Magisterium and would be in manifest heresy for the popes over the centuries.
Ecumenism and inter religious dialogue is good and is not new for the Catholic Church but in the past the doctrines and theology of the Church were not thrown over board.-Lionel Andrades

Catechesi per gli adulti - IL CREDO DEGLI APOSTOLI - 11 - La 11 - La Provvidenza di Dio

 

MARCH 10, 2021

Partiti di centrodestra potrebbero opporsi al moto proprio di papa Francesco, Spiritus Domini, che il cardinale Luiz Ladaria sj giustifica con il Concilio Vaticano II interpretato con una falsa premessa

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/lo-slogan-per-i-partiti-politici-in.html


MARCH 10, 2021

Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with Tradition and then justifies his actions and views

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/pope-francis-interprets-vatican-council.html



MARCH 11, 2021

Pope Francis quotes Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with the teaching on exclusive salvation. Without the manifest error he would have to support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.Now he creates schism with the past Magisterium

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/pope-francis-quotes-vatican-council-ii.html


 MARCH 10, 2021

The center right political parties could object to the moto proprio of Pope Francis, Spiritus Domini, which Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj justifies with Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/october-18-2018-we-have-two.html

MARCH 9, 2021



Il Credo non sono più un segno di unità nella Chiesa poiché possono esserci due interpretazioni

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/il-credo-non-sono-piu-n-segno-di-unita.html


MARCH 10, 2021

My interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed is different from yours

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/my-interpretation-of-nicene-and.html

MARCH 8, 2021

The political parties must re-interpret Vatican Council II and correct the two pope's leftist theology. Then the Catholic political parties could affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King and tell Catholics that they are obligated to vote for their party

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-political-parties-must-re-interpret.html