Friday, September 1, 2017

EWTN, Jeff Mirus, Fr.William Most's Internet report is an obstacle for the SSPX canonical recognition


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The report on the Internet Tragic Errors of Fr. Leonard Feeney is an obstacle to the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) being able to understand how Vatican Council II can be in harmony with Tradition and then their asking for canonical status.
This report assumes being saved in invincile ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) and baptism of blood(BOB) are known cases of people saved outside the Church without the baptism of water.It then assumes that there are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This,many do not know has a link to the interpretation of Vatican Council II.

For Fr. William Most, EWTN and Jeff Mirus(Catholic Culture) there are known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS and this is expressed on this  flagship report for the Left.The Magisterium in 1949 was correct and the exceptions include I.I, BOD and BOB besides those mentioned in Vatican Council II (LG 16,UR 3 etc).This is the liberal narrative accepted by also the traditionalists.

Since in principle hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to the dogma EENS for Fr.Most.Vatican Council II (LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc) is a rupture with Feeneyite EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.So every one does not need to enter the Church for salvation,as it was taught in the past.The Church is no more like the Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood.So of course Vatican Council II becomes a  rupture with Tradition.The SSPX rejects it.

This was the 'tragic error' of Fr. Leonard Feeney according to EWTN, that he refused to see and accept that invisible for us I.I, BOD and BOB were really visible exceptions to EENS.This has been accepted in all ecclesiology classes through out the world and all professors and priests teach this.Even Fr.Jean Marie Gleize teaches this in Ecclesiology semesters at Econe.

So the SSPX like the present liberal magisterium and EWTN has to accept Vatican Council II in which LG 16 is a known exception to Tradition, in particular the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.

Things have changed now.

 Since this propaganda piece by Mirus, EWTN and the Jewish Left was placed on the Internet,Catholic professors of philosophy and theology state offically and in public that invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I are not visible for us in 2017. So they never were and nor are exceptions to the dogma EENS as it was known over the centuries.

So references to I.I,BOD and BOB in Mystici Corporis, Catechism of Trent, Catechism of Pius X etc refer to unknown people and so are not  exceptions to EENS. Fr.William Most, EWTN and Mirus made a mistake.They wrongly indicate in this report that Broad Texts of the Magisterium  and the Broad texts of the Fathers mention exceptions to to EENS with visible for  us cases of BOD, BOB and I.I . They would have to be visibile of course, for them to be exceptions. This is the common inference.
The late Fr.William Most,a good apologist otherwise,made an objective mistake. Non existing people in our reality cannot be exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. The magisterium made a mistake in 1949 and the error continues.It has a bearing on the SSPX receiving canonical status.

So now if the SSPX understands(if, only if...!!)this they simply have to announce that all hypothetical cases mentioned in Vatican Council II are simply hypothetical.So Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS as mentioned in the Restrictive Texts of the Fathers and Restrictive texts of the Magisterium in the EWTN report.Vatican Council II is not a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors and the past ecclesiology of the Catholic Church as during the time of St.Maximillian Kolbe in the 1930's.This is another Vatican Council II as compared to the one known by the SSPX.

So the SSPX can affirm Vatican Council II ( with hypothetical cases not  objective) and also  endorse the  dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries of the 16th century and the Church Fathers and Medieval Fathers.
Then they can ask the Vatican, the two popes and all the cardinals to also affirm Vatican Council II without the confusion over invisible people being visible examples of salvation outside the Church and so allegedly contradicting the centuries-old interpretation of EENS.
They can also correct the same error in the Wikipedia reports on Fr. Leonard Feeney, outside the Church there is no salvation, extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Feeneyism, Dominus Iesus, Subsistit it,Ecclesiology, Soteriology, Baptism of Desire, Invincible Ignorance etc.
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Catholics in general are confused with this propaganda piece on the Internet.Even Fr.John Hunwicke in 2009 assumes that invisible ignorance is an exception to the dogma EENS and criticizes Fr. Leonard Feeney. So it is no surprise that for him Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition.1 The fault lies with him and not Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades

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More traditionalist than Tradition?

http://liturgicalnotes.blogspot.it/2009/12/more-traditionalist-than-tradition.htmlùù



TRAGIC ERRORS OF LEONARD FEENEY  
  by Fr. William Most
http://www.ewtn.com/library/scriptur/feeney.txt

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AUGUST 11, 2017



Magisterium made a mistake in excommunicating Fr. Leonard Feeney since BOD,BOB and I.I refer to invisible people : Vatican Council II interpretation changes

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/magisterium-made-mistake-in.html



JULY 1, 2016

Tragic Errors of Fr.Leonard Feeney by Fr.William Most is based on assuming hypothetical cases are explicit exceptions to the dogma EENS. This is an objective mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/07/tragic-errors-of-frleonard-feeney-by_1.html


DECEMBER 19, 2015


Tragic Errors of Fr.Leonard Feeney' by Fr. William Most is based on the error of Cushingismhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/tragic-errors-of-frleonard-feeney-by-fr.html





Catholic professors of philosophy and theology admit the Magisterium made a mistake but do not want to say so in public : Philosophical mistake is also there in the text of Vatican Council II

Catholic professors of philosophy and theology in Rome and abroad are denying the Catholic Faith even after being informed.They will admit that invisible baptism of desire is not a visible exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) but will not say in public that the Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case and Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.They will not say in public that Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and non traditional conclusion.Pope Benedict was really promoting the hermeneutic of rupture.
I am the only one, as a lay man saying this after having discovered the error of the invisible baptism of desire being a visible exception to traditional EENS.The professors agree that this is a mistake of the Magisterium but do not want to elaborate .
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Lionel Andrades

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August 31, 2017

JANUARY 4, 2017

Professors of Philosophy at the pontifical universities in Rome are still refusing to answer simple philosophical questions




DECEMBER 13, 2016

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS FOR A PROFESSOR OF PHILOSOPHY : ASK HIM ABOUT MISTAKES IN VATICAN COUNCIL IIhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/philosophical-questions-for-professor.html





December 14, 2016


Catholic professors in Rome now tell lies : pontifical universities don't want to be quoted on a philosophical subject
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/search?q=Philosophical+questions+for+professors+of+philosophy

DECEMBER 26, 2016

The Council Fathers at Vatican Council II, according to the text of the Council, wrongly assumed hypothetical cases were not hypotheticalhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/the-council-fathers-at-vatican-council.html

DECEMBER 24, 2016

In Dominus Iesus Cardinal Ratzinger repeats mistakes of Redemptoris Missio :irrational philosophy creates non traditional theology (Gloria tv)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/in-dominus-iesus-cardinal-ratzinger_28.html
DECEMBER 23, 2016
Catholics cannot believe that Cardinal Ratzinger made a major mistake
Cardinal Ratzinger made an objective mistake in Redemptoris Missio

Card.Ratzinger's error in the ITC papers is also there in Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus

Cardinal Ratzinger 's work : a rupture between faith and reason

Magisterium in rebellion

It's un- precedented in over 50 years. All the reports on Vatican Council II have not reported on this.Philosophical error runs through the Council text

DECEMBER 18, 2016

When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since he could not be in the subsist it or know or did not know about Jesus and the Church category

When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since the Catholic Church teaches this : this would be news for many Catholics

Unprecedented!
Objective philosophical mistakes in Vatican Council II :bishops, do not respond to philosophical questions : Cardinal Pell will not answer two questions

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS FOR A PROFESSOR OF PHILOSOPHY : ASK HIM ABOUT MISTAKES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II

Traditionalists too unaware of major philosophical mistake : many errors in Vatican Council II

Too many mistakes in Vatican Council II

Vatican Council II riddled with philosphical error : two popes in principle support objective error in text

HTTP://EUCHARISTANDMISSION.BLOGSPOT.IT/2016/12/VATICAN-COUNCIL-II-RIDDLED-WITH.HTML

DECEMBER 11, 2016

Priest confirms philosophical error : Lefebvre excommunication a mistake.

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church is a philosophy which interprets invisible persons as being visible and so a non traditional conclusion is created

DECEMBER 10, 2016

The present magisterium has made a major philosophical mistake


DECEMBER 7, 2016
Ecclesia Dei has approved the Tridentine Rite Mass but only with the new ecclesiology in 2017 : Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage
There is a mistake in Vatican Council II and once the error is identified and avoided, the interpretation of the Council radically changes.There is no 'spirit of Vatican Council II ' excuse anymore

NOVEMBER 29, 2016
So it is only by using an irrationality that the present magisterium can re-interpret magisterial documents and say Vatican Council II indicates all Jews and Muslims in Italy do not need to convert into the Catholic Church in 2016
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/so-it-only-by-using-irrationality-that.html
https://gloria.tv/Lionel%20L.%20Andrades#9~user%3DESFpeRkBgpvV1kqh61itrpGn9

Catholic professors of philosophy and theology admit the Magisterium made a mistake but do not …
Catholic professors of philosophy and theology in Rome and abroad are denying the Catholic Faith even after being informed.They will admit that invisible baptism of desire is not a visible exception …

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