Saturday, March 16, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally

 








- Lionel Andrades

 OCTOBER 18, 2023

Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione.


Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione. 

Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione. Quindi sta affermando l'insegnamento tradizionale secondo cui fuori dalla Chiesa non c'è salvezza, proprio come me. Entrambi stiamo dicendo la stessa cosa.

 Se a Papa Francesco e ai cardinali venisse chiesto se LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA ,2 GS 22 ecc. si riferiscono a casi invisibili nel 2023, anche loro direbbero SÌ, come Don Boumis, i Missionari della Carità di Madre Teresa, il Cardinale Vicario Generale e i Vescovi Ausiliari di Roma. Siamo tutti d'accordo.


Quindi, quando tutti fanno riferimento a 

extra ecclesiam nulla salus è un riferimento
al Concilio Vaticano II. Ad Gentes 7,  dice
che tutti hanno bisogno della fede e del 
battesimo per la salvezza. Quando fanno 
riferimento al dogma EENS si riferiscono
anche al Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica.
- Lionel Andrades

 OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/don-paolo-boumis-parroco-presso-la.html

JANUARY 30, 2024

Morally we only have the rational option. So this would be the only interpretation of the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the religious communities. Annual, renewal of vows will have its foundation only on Vatican Council II interpreted ethically.

 

Fr. Paolo Boumis the Parish Priest at Sant Agapito, Largo Preneste, near Termini, Rome, his assistant priests and the rest of the parish have only one option now. They have to interpret LG 8,14,15,16 etc rationally. So the approved Catechists in the parish would be dishonest if future catechesis was based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. They cannot continue to interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc, as being visible people in the present times saved outside the Catholic Church.

Morally we only have the rational option. So this would be the only interpretation of the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the religious communities. Annual, renewal of vows will have its foundation only on Vatican Council II interpreted ethically.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-parish-priest-has-to-tell-his.html


OCTOBER 19, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me.

 Father Paolo Boumis. Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me. He also interprets Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions. He also interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church in synchrony with the past Catechisms and other Magisterial Documents. It is the same for the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa, Rome and the Vicar General and Auxiliary Bishops of the Rome Vicariate.This is possible since they all agree that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to invisible cases in 2023. They are always hypothetical cases and so they cannot be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in the present times. So their theology becomes traditional when they interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc rationally, i.e invisible people are physically invisible.They return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology and the traditional interpretation of EENS.

Though - many of the above names are denying the Faith in public.They do not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS in public. They suggest that there are exceptions for the dogma EENS, in other words that LG 8,14, 15, 16 refer to physically visible non Catholics, who are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS.This is dishonest.Suggesting that invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc are visible is unethical.I call this CushingismCushingism is heretical, irrational, schismatic and non traditional.

 Before Muslims, they present themselves as Cushingites and not Feeneyites. However technically, in private, they are Feeneyites when they interpret Vatican Council II etc rationally, i.e invisible cases of LG 8,14, 16 etc, are invisible in 2023-Lionel Andrades



OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


OCTOBER 12, 2023

Fr.Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, Sant Agapito, Rome, the Missionaries of Charity (Men) of Mother Teresa and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his Auxiliary Bishops in Rome, agree with me: there are no visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of water in 2023

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-sant.html


OCTOBER 10, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis today in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/for-father-paulo-boumis-there-are-no_10.html

OCTOBER 7, 2023



For Fr.Paolo Boumis there are no visible cases in 2023 of a non Catholic saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance and this would also be the view of the priests and lay religious in the parish and also his bishop: It would be the same with the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-has-confirmed-that-there.html


OCTOBER 1, 2023



Future popes and cardinals will only be conservative since Vatican Councl II can only be interpreted rationally. This is the only moral choice there is.The Council is then traditional and Feeneyite

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/future-popes-and-cardinals-will-only-be.html

OCTOBER 1, 2023



So at the next Conclave of Cardinals to elect a pope it must be understand that Vatican Council II can only be interpreted rationally and like the Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II, it is traditional and Feeneyite.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/so-at-next-conclave-of-cardinals-to.html

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me.

 Father Paolo Boumis. Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me. He also interprets Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions. He also interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church in synchrony with the past Catechisms and other Magisterial Documents. It is the same for the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa, Rome and the Vicar General and Auxiliary Bishops of the Rome Vicariate.This is possible since they all agree that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to invisible cases in 2023. They are always hypothetical cases and so they cannot be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in the present times. So their theology becomes traditional when they interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc rationally, i.e invisible people are physically invisible.They return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology and the traditional interpretation of EENS.

Though - many of the above names are denying the Faith in public.They do not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS in public. They suggest that there are exceptions for the dogma EENS, in other words that LG 8,14, 15, 16 refer to physically visible non Catholics, who are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS.This is dishonest.Suggesting that invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc are visible is unethical.I call this CushingismCushingism is heretical, irrational, schismatic and non traditional.

 Before Muslims, they present themselves as Cushingites and not Feeneyites. However technically, in private, they are Feeneyites when they interpret Vatican Council II etc rationally, i.e invisible cases of LG 8,14, 16 etc, are invisible in 2023-Lionel Andrades



OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


OCTOBER 12, 2023

Fr.Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, Sant Agapito, Rome, the Missionaries of Charity (Men) of Mother Teresa and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his Auxiliary Bishops in Rome, agree with me: there are no visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of water in 2023

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-sant.html


OCTOBER 10, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis today in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/for-father-paulo-boumis-there-are-no_10.html

OCTOBER 7, 2023



For Fr.Paolo Boumis there are no visible cases in 2023 of a non Catholic saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance and this would also be the view of the priests and lay religious in the parish and also his bishop: It would be the same with the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-has-confirmed-that-there.html


OCTOBER 1, 2023



Future popes and cardinals will only be conservative since Vatican Councl II can only be interpreted rationally. This is the only moral choice there is.The Council is then traditional and Feeneyite

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/future-popes-and-cardinals-will-only-be.html

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