The parishioners at the parish of Santa Maria di Nazareth , Casalotti, Boccea,Rome are disappointed. Since the Franciscans of the Immaculate priests and seminarians will no longer be there.

 

The parishioners at the parish of Santa Maria di Nazareth , Casalotti, Boccea,Rome are disappointed. Since the Franciscans of the Immaculate priests and seminarians will no longer be there.

The Friars also seem sad that they have to leave the parish for which they worked so hard all these years and are appreciated by many.

It is believed that if the Franciscans of the Immaculate community, which offers Holy Mass in Italian for the parishioners, continues to remain in the parish or if they would return after August 31, it would help a reconciliation of the now separated two communities. 

Since the doctrinal issue is now resolved.All the members of this religious community and the Third Order members can interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise.

They would not be rejecting the Council and neither Tradition.

They would be affirming the strict interpretation of EENS which is not contradicted by Vatican Council II( premise-free).

Bishop Gino Reali, the bishop of the diocese, could make it possible for both groups to affirm Vatican Council II(premise-free ) including, members of his Curia.-Lionel Andrades

There are no exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) in Vatican Council II ( premise-free). This is not denied. It is not denied by Cardinal Braz de Avez, Fr. Sabino Ardito sdb, Fr. Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj,Fr.Alfonso Bruno Secretary General,Fr. Rosario Sammarco, Superior of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, Boccea, Rome and Rector of the seminary there.It is not denied by Fr. Giuseppe Grioni F.I, Parish Priest, Santa Maria di Nazareth where the seminary is situated.

 

There are no exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) in Vatican Council II ( premise-free). This is not denied.

 It is not denied by Cardinal Braz de Avez, Fr. Sabino Ardito sdb, Fr. Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj,Fr.Alfonso Bruno Secretary General,Fr. Rosario Sammarco, Superior of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, Boccea, Rome and Rector of the seminary there.It is not denied by Fr. Giuseppe Grioni F.I, Parish Priest, Santa Maria di Nazareth where the seminary is situated.

I am in frequent contact with Fr. Rosario and Fr. Giuseppe and had e-mailed Fr. Alfonso Bruno and Fr. Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj.- Lionel Andrades

The Franciscans of the Immaculate crisis emerged and continued since all sides did not know that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the false premise instead of with it.

 

The Franciscans of the Immaculate crisis emerged and continued since all sides did not know that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the false premise instead of with it.At Holy Mass in Latin, Italian or English the Church can now go back to Tradition in its ecclesiology with Vatican Council II ( premise-free).

The ecclesiology and theology of the Church would be the same independent of the liturgy.

The return to Tradition does not not depend upon the Mass but on how Vatican Council II is interpreted- with or without the false premise.

     

The Lay Movements, Focolare, Neo Cathechumenal Way and Charismatic Renewal, can all affirm EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed when there are no exceptions to the Syllabus etc, mentioned in Vatican Council II( premise-free).

When there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to EENS, Pope Francis and Pope Benedict have to come back to Tradition. There is no other choice.-Lionel Andrades