Saturday, February 24, 2018

SSPX begin negotiations with Abp. Guido Pozzo : ask if Vatican Council II can be interpreted with the Lionel Andrades model.

The Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) should re-begin negotiations with Archbishop Guido Pozzo,Secretary of Ecclesia Dei,Vatican and ask him if the SSPX can accept Vatican Council II as interpreted by Lionel Andrades on the blog Eucharist and Mission(Lionel's Blog).
Tell Archbishop Guido Pozzo that Lionel's interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) is the same as that of the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012.
Howevever he considers Archbishop Guido Pozzo in heresy and in schism with the past popes and  Magisterium.


Pope Benedict confirmed this in March 2016(Avvenire).He said that EENS today, for him, was not the same as it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.For Lionel, EENS is the same as in the past since he re-interprets Vatican Council II differently.There are no exceptions mentioned in the Council to EENS for him, since LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc all refer to hypothetical cases, invisible people in the present times(2018).For Archbishop Pozzo they are not invisible but known people in the present times saved outside the Catholic Church.It's with this irrationality that he and Pope Benedict interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition and in particular the dogma EENS.
So Archbishop Guido Pozzo is using the same irrational premise approved by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj to interpret EENS and Vatican Council II.

Like  Pope Benedict, he creates a rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.So Pope Benedict and Archbishop  Pozzo will not affirm Feeneyite EENS or the Syllabus of Errors. Since Vatican Council II with the premise is a development for them. Also the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), interpreted with the irrational premise, is a rupture with EENS for them. For Lionel Andrades BOD, BOB and I.I are not a rupture with Feeneyite EENS since he does not use the irrational premise.Invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I cannot be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. The Holy Office 1949 and the Archbishop of Boston were wrong in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case. It was the courageous priest from Boston who was teaching orthodox Catholic doctrine, for Lionel.
The SSPX could begin talks with Archbishop Guido Pozzo and ask him if he could interpret Vatican Council II like Lionel Andrades .The conclusion would be in harmony with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the Nicene Creed and the past Catechisms including the present Catechism of the Catholic Church.The ecclesiology of the Church before and after Vatican Council II will be the same.
So the SSPX would be meeting Archbishop Pozzo's demand to accept Vatican Council II.
The SSPX could also ask Rome to come back to the faith as Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre wanted them to do so.Archbishop Pozzo and the popes must  also interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS as it as known to the Magisterium of the 16th century. 

They can use Lionel's model to go back to the old theology and traditional doctrines of the Church in harmony with Vatican Council II( premise-free).
So with Vatican Council II as a condition for reconciliation being met, the SSPX can be granted canonical recognition and a personal prelature.
Also the Conference of Catholic Bishops in Europe and the USA could be asked to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed,EENS, Syllabus of Errors and the Catechisms including the Council of Trent and that of Pope Pius X.They must choose the hermeneutic of continuity and not rupture.
This should be expected of all Catholics.This is a rational, traditional and non heretical interpretation. There is no schism with the past popes and Church Councils on EENS etc.-Lionel Andrades




FEBRUARY 24, 2018




Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j is in schism error needs to be recanted : Catholics have to affirm heresy and schism of the present Magisterium in the name of Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise to elicit a non traditional and heretical conclusion which is a break with the past Magisterium of the Church.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/sspx-begin-negotiations-with-abp-guido.html



FEBRUARY 23, 2018





Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j in schism : enforcing it on the whole Church
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-in-schism.html




FEBRUARY 24, 2018




The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF),Vatican has no objections if all Catholic religious communities affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise : information exclusively on Lionel's Blog


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of.html




Tell Card.Marx that you affirm Vatican Council II according to Lionel Andrades.There is no known salvation outside the Church. So Protestants cannot receieve the Eucharist (Graphics)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/tell-cardmarx-that-you-affirm-vatican.html






JULY 4, 2017


CDF asks SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism and reject traditional Feeneyismhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/cdf-wants-sspx-to-interpret-vatican.html



MAY 18, 2017


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No canonical status for the SSPX this year.Reconciliation talks have failed.Doctrine divides for a corrupt magisterium

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/no-canonical-status-for-sspx-this.html

MAY 12, 2017

Ecclesia Dei ask the Bishops Conferences to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) 

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/ecclesia-dei-ask-bishops-conferences-to.html


NOVEMBER 14, 2017

Once they correct this error the SSPX could tell Archbishop Guido Pozzo that they affirm Vatican Council II( premise free).
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/once-they-correct-this-error-sspx-could.html


OCTOBER 30, 2017

Double- speak continues with Ecclesia Dei and the CDF : Vatican Council II is not the real issue for the SSPX reconciliation
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/double-speak-continues-with-ecclesia.html


 OCTOBER 13, 2017

SSPX has to show Abp.Pozzo that 'the dogma of the faith' has not been lost : it's in harmony with Vatican Council II (premise-free)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-has-to-show-abppozzo-that-dogma-of.html

OCTOBER 12, 2017

Five months and no concrete dialogue between the SSPX and Ecclesia Dei on Vatican Council II (premise-free) and EENS(premise-free)
  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/five-months-and-no-dialogue-between.html

OCTOBER 4, 2017

SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II (Cushingite) : do not compromise like Card. Raymond Burke, Michael Voris and others  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-must-continue-to-reject-vatican.html 

AUGUST 29, 2017
SSPX can correct the Wikipedia error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II related to canonical status for them http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/sspxcan-correct-wikipedia-error-related.html




Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J uses the false premise : here is the proof!






Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is still in heresy :visible to us baptism of desire and invincible ignorance contradicts a defined dogma http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-secretary-of.html

THERE IS AMBIGUITY IN VATICAN COUNCIL II ONLY WITH THE FALSE PREMISE: THE COUNCIL IS TRADITIONAL OTHERWISE http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/there-is-ambiguity-in-vatican-council.html

Archbishop Di Noia's the Church is always right is becoming controversial: How can the Holy Spirit say that we can see the deceased saved?  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-di-noias-church-is-always.html#links
Tuesday, April 10, 2012
HOLY FATHER ASSUMES THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ARE KNOWN TO US: CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL I AND II
IF THE CDF DOES NOTHING WHOM CAN WE APPEAL TO, POPE FRANCIS ?: PUBLIC ERRORS BY VATICAN OFFICIALS INCLUDING THE CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/05/if-cdf-does-nothing-whom-can-we-appeal.html

January 13, 2013

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Repost : For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2018


For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes.

Church Militant TV(CMTV) and I, we both accept the baptism of desire(BOD). For me BOD is only theoretical and hypothetical.
So I affirm the BOD along with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Can CMTV say the same thing? No.
Since for CMTV, BOD refers to a known person saved outside the Church without the baptism of water.So visible-for-them BOD is an exception to Feeneyite EENS.It is BOD or Feeneyite EENS.Either-or.
But not for me.
I affirm BOD and I know that it cannot be a practical exception to EENS.
We cannot see or meet any one saved with BOD.
So this is the difference between CMTV and me when we both say outside the Church there is no salvation and there are only Catholics in Heaven.
Their understanding of EENS and BOD is different.
Baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) along with Vatican Council II(UR 3, NA 2, LG 8,GS 22 etc),all, refer to hypothetical cases in 2018.
Hypothetical cases do not contradict EENS for me. They are not a rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.
For CMTV,BOD, BOB and I.I  and Vatican Council II's UR 3, NA 3, LG 8, GS 22 etc  are non hypothetical.Concrete cases. Real people in the present times.They refer to  known people saved outside the Church.So this is how they become exceptions to EENS. Vatican Council II becomes a rupture with Tradition.There are exceptions to the past ecclesiology of the Church.
This is the irrational reasoning of the Cushingites.The dogma EENS says all need to enter the Church for salvation and CMTV with their Cushingite theology indicate that  there are exceptions.
So they will not outright say that all non Catholics with no known exceptions in 2018 are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they enter the Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).In other words all non Catholics in 2018 need to be members of the Church and live the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church, for salvation.
It is not possible for them to say this since they interpret EENS, Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Nicene Creed with Cushingite theology. BOD is an exception to EENS.Invisible people now in Heaven are visible on earth.Non Catholics saved are in two places at the same time, in Heaven and on earth where they are visible to Cushingites.With this false premise they create a hermeneutic of rupture.They violate the Principle of Non Contradiction.
I avoid this premise when I read Magisterial documents.So I also affirm these Church documents but my conclusions are Feeneyite.
For me it is Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.For them it is Vatican Council II(Cushingite) in a rupture with the past ecclesiology of the Church.
CMTV interprets Vatican Council II like the liberals, the two popes and the SSPX bishops.They affirm this interpretation of Vatican Council II with the SSPX.CMTV accepts the conclusion and the SSPX rejects it.Both use the same reasoning, Cushingite reasoning with the false premise.
For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes.
-Lionel Andrades


 FEBRUARY 19, 2018



I am referring to Feeneyism and Cushingism as explained on my blog.The fault does not lie with Vatican Council II in itself. It depends upon how you interpret the Council, whether you use Cushingism or Feeneyism. Cushingism results in the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-referring-to-feeneyism-and.html



FEBRUARY 19, 2018






Catholics maintain the schism of the two popes

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/catholics-maintain-schism-of-two-popes.html










FEBRUARY 19, 2018










As a Catholic I affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite-without the premise) in harmony with EENS(Feeneyite), for me the Nicene Creed simply says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and not three known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water in the Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/then-i-come-to-my-beliefs-as-cathollic.html




FEBRUARY 19, 2018




Bradley Eli at CMTV interprets EENS and Vatican Council II with Cushingism like the present Magisterium : Cushingism is irrational, non traditional, heretical and creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/bradley-eli-at-cmtv-interprets-eens-and.html



FEBRUARY 18, 2018






Who is going to challenge Cardinal Cupich and say there is no doctrinal change with Vatican Council ? Not Church Militant TV
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/who-is-going-to-challenge-cardinal.html



 FEBRUARY 18, 2018

There will not be mission for Michael Voris based on the traditional teaching of the Church supported by Vatican Council II and the Catechism(1994) since he chooses Cushingism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/there-will-not-be-mission-for-michael.html



FEBRUARY 18, 2018

In the old Vortex on Do Non Catholics Go To Hell?, prudent Michael Voris does not want to be called a Feeneyite: uses Cushingite theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/in-vortex-on-do-non-catholics-go-to.html



 FEBRUARY 8, 2018




Church Militant TV is interpreting the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingism and so are a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Church.This is doctrinal chaos.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/church-militant-tv-is-interpreting.html



FEBRUARY 8, 2018



Michael Voris and Church Militant TV are Cushingites like the rest of the Archdiocese of Detroit : they use the New Theology

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/michael-voris-and-church-militant-tv.html





FEBRUARY 18, 2018

You may hope that a particular person outside the Church is finally saved but this is not the same as knowing this in personal cases.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/you-may-hope-that-particular-person.html



FEBRUARY 18, 2018



Now please tell me are you saying that all non Catholics in the world in 2018 are on the way to Hell, with no known exception, unless they enter the Catholic Church with faith and the baptism of water? I say YES.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/now-please-tell-me-are-you-saying-that.html



EBRUARY 18, 2018




Blessed Pope Paul VI who is to be canonized approved a factual error in Vatican Council II and this cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/blessed-pope-paul-vi-who-is-to-be.html



FEBRUARY 16, 2018

The liberal theologians suggest that all do not need to enter the Church since there could be exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I( as if we could know of any) or someone could be saved at the last moment( as if we could know of someone) http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-liberal-theologians-suggest-that.html




FEBRUARY 15, 2018


The baptism of blood could never be an exception to EENS. Since it is known only to God and is a hypothetical case for us. It cannot be seen in the present times to be an exception

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/comment-catholic-dictionary-term.html

FEBRUARY 17, 2018

Would the German bishops go into schism?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/would-german-bishops-go-into-schism.html



FEBRUARY 17, 2018

The two popes and Cardinal Ladaria must be asked to affirm EENS (Feeneyite) and BOD(Feeneyite) and reject EENS(Cushingite) and BOD(Cushingite)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-two-popes-and-cardinal-ladaria-must.html




 FEBRUARY 15, 2018

Reinterpret Vatican Council II with these four links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/reinterpret-vatican-council-ii-with_15.html




FEBRUARY 17, 2018

6- To reinterpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949

HTTP://EUCHARISTANDMISSION.BLOGSPOT.IT/2018/02/TO-REINTERPRET-VATICAN-COUNCIL-II-AND_17.HTML




FEBRUARY 16, 2018


The liberal theologians suggest that all do not need to enter the Church since there could be exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I( as if we could know of any) or someone could be saved at the last moment( as if we could know of someone)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-liberal-theologians-suggest-that.html


FEBRUARY 17, 2018








I affirm baptism of desire(BOD) Feeneyite and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) Feeneyite.I do not reject BOD,baptism of blood (BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) which are always Feeneyite for me.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-affirm-baptism-of-desirebod-feeneyite.html




FEBRUARY 15, 2018





1-5 : To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office (1949) 1-5

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and_82.html



FEBRUARY 13, 2018




When choosing to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism observe the philosophical mistakes in the Council text

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/when-choosing-to-interpret-vatican.html

FEBRUARY 13, 2018

Feeneyism (according to L.A) is also important for the Schools of Evangelisation of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal Movement and for the catechesis done by the Neo Cathechumanal Way of Kiko Arguello
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/feeneyism-according-to-la-is-also.html



FEBRUARY 13, 2018

Bishop Bernard Fellay is a Cushingite like Archbishop Guido Pozzo and Augustine Di Noia. They need to switich to Feeneyism for the reconciliation
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/bishop-bernard-fellay-is-cushingite.html



FEBRUARY 13, 2018

I am a Feeneyite so the Catechisms are Feeneyite for me.Pope Benedict and Card.Ladaria are Cushingites. So the Catechisms are interpreted with Cushingism. Our conclusions are different.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-so-catechisms-are.html




FEBRUARY 12, 2018

Similarly for me Vatican Council II is Feeneyite.Now please do not cite LG 16 as an exception. It would be an exception for you since you are a Cushingite.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/similarly-for-me-vatican-council-ii-is.html

FEBRUARY 12, 2018



I am a Feeneyite in my theology and philosophy.So is the Catechisn of Pope Pius X, the Catechism of the Council of Trent and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994).They are all Feeneyite for me.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-in-my-theology-and.html



FEBRUARY 12, 2018




So now there is no doctrinal unity. Why should I say that invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to EENS and Card.Cushing, Abp. Lefebvre and Pope Pius XII were not in heresy? Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for his orthodoxy.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/so-now-there-is-no-doctrinal-unity-why.html



FEBRUARY 12, 2018




Pope Pius XII, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria were wrong and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct : apology from CDF long over due

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/pope-pius-xii-pope-benedict-and.html



 FEBRUARY 12, 2018

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Vatican(CDF) and Jesuits review the Fr.Leonard Feeney case : How could invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS?: The Magisterium made a mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/vatican-and-jesuits-review-frleonard.html


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JANUARY 17, 2018

I am a Feeneyite who does not reject Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-who-does-not-reject.html

FEBRUARY 17, 2018


I am a Feeneyite who does not reject BOD, BOB and I.I
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-who-does-not-reject-bod.html


FEBRUARY 17, 2018
I affirm baptism of desire(BOD) Feeneyite and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) Feeneyite.I do not reject BOD,baptism of blood (BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) which are always Feeneyite for me.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-affirm-baptism-of-desirebod-feeneyite.html

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