Sunday, June 26, 2022

Traditionis Cusode : The bishops are not in unity with the Holy Spirit when they interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents with an Irrational and not Rational Premise. There conclusion has to be heretical and in schism with the past Magisterium.

 



Traditionis  Custode -  text with comments



APOSTOLIC LETTER

ISSUED "MOTU PROPRIO"
BY THE SUPREME PONTIFF

FRANCIS

«TRADITIONIS CUSTODES»

On the Use of the Roman Liturgy
Prior to the Reform of 1970

 

Official translation
 

Guardians of the tradition, the bishops in communion with the Bishop of Rome constitute the visible principle and foundation of the unity of their particular Churches. [1] Under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, through the proclamation of the Gospel and by means of the celebration of the Eucharist, they govern the particular Churches entrusted to them. [2]

Lionel: The bishops are not in unity with the Holy Spirit when they interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents with an Irrational and not Rational Premise. There conclusion has to be heretical and in schism with the past Magisterium.Bishop Roland Minnerath, the former bishop of Dijon, France was not in ecclesial unity with the popes of the past. Since they used only a Rational Premise to interpret Magisterial Documents. Minnerath was using the False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so there was a break with the Syllabus of Errors.

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In order to promote the concord and unity of the Church, with paternal solicitude towards those who in any region adhere to liturgical forms antecedent to the reform willed by the Vatican Council II, my Venerable Predecessors, Saint John Paul II and Benedict XVI, granted and regulated the faculty to use the Roman Missal edited by John XXIII in 1962. [3] In this way they intended “to facilitate the ecclesial communion of those Catholics who feel attached to some earlier liturgical forms” and not to others. [4]

Lionel : They were both interpreting Vatican Council II with the False Premise and so had to be in a rupture with the past excluisvist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. They had chosen division. There was only the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors etc).Pope John Paul and Cardinal Ratzinger did not tell Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre that Vatican Council II could be interpreted with the Rational Premise and the conclusion would be in support of Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Leftbvre was not informed.

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In line with the initiative of my Venerable Predecessor Benedict XVI to invite the bishops to assess the application of the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum three years after its publication, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith carried out a detailed consultation of the bishops in 2020. The results have been carefully considered in the light of experience that has matured during these years.

At this time, having considered the wishes expressed by the episcopate and having heard the opinion of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, I now desire, with this Apostolic Letter, to press on ever more in the constant search for ecclesial communion. Therefore, I have considered it appropriate to establish the following:

Lionel: I repeat - there cannot be ecclesiial communion based upon an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.The  False Premise creates division in the Church. A rational option is availale.Though it would be the end of theological liberalism. 


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Art. 1. The liturgical books promulgated by Saint Paul VI and Saint John Paul II, in conformity with the decrees of Vatican Council II, are the unique expression of the lex orandi of the Roman Rite.

Lionel : They are not the unique expression of the lex orandi. They are based upon Vatican Council II interpreted with a Fake Premise. It prodiuces a false rupture with the exclusivisit ecclesiology of the Roman Missal (1580).The unique expression is Vatican Council II (1965) interpreted with a Rational and not Irrational Premise. The popes from Paul VI to Francis have not chosen the Rational Premise.The irrational  interpretation of the Council will become obsolete. People have a choice.

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Art. 2. It belongs to the diocesan bishop, as moderator, promoter, and guardian of the whole liturgical life of the particular Church entrusted to him, [5] to regulate the liturgical celebrations of his diocese. [6] Therefore, it is his exclusive competence to authorize the use of the 1962 Roman Missal in his diocese, according to the guidelines of the Apostolic See.

Lionel : The 1962 Roman Missal is in harmony with the exclusivist ecclesiology of Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise. So this must be the lex credendi.It must be the norm at Mass in all Rites at every liturgy.



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Art. 3. The bishop of the diocese in which until now there exist one or more groups that celebrate according to the Missal antecedent to the reform of 1970:

§ 1. is to determine that these groups do not deny the validity and the legitimacy of the liturgical reform, dictated by Vatican Council II and the Magisterium of the Supreme Pontiffs;

Lionel: The validity of Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise is the only expression of the Holy Spirit. Vatican Council II interpreted with a False Premise cannot be Magisterial.It is human error.


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§ 2. is to designate one or more locations where the faithful adherents of these groups may gather for the eucharistic celebration (not however in the parochial churches and without the erection of new personal parishes);

Lionel: The 'faithful adherents of these groups ' must only affirm Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise.So they would be in harmony with the past theology of the Church.The popes and saints over the centuries, before 1949, only used the Rational Premise to interpret Church documents(Creeds, Catechisms etc) and doctrines( baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance etc).

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§ 3. to establish at the designated locations the days on which eucharistic celebrations are permitted using the Roman Missal promulgated by Saint John XXIII in 1962. [7] In these celebrations the readings are proclaimed in the vernacular language, using translations of the Sacred Scripture approved for liturgical use by the respective Episcopal Conferences;

§ 4. to appoint a priest who, as delegate of the bishop, is entrusted with these celebrations and with the pastoral care of these groups of the faithful. This priest should be suited for this responsibility, skilled in the use of the Missale Romanum antecedent to the reform of 1970, possess a knowledge of the Latin language sufficient for a thorough comprehension of the rubrics and liturgical texts, and be animated by a lively pastoral charity and by a sense of ecclesial communion. This priest should have at heart not only the correct celebration of the liturgy, but also the pastoral and spiritual care of the faithful;

Lionel : Bishops must encourage the faithful to interpret Vatican Council II ( ratiional ) as a continuity with the lex credendi of the past centuries.

With the past exclusivist ecclesiology intact, the faith and moral teachings of the Church of the past, are not contradicted.Vatican Council II interpreted rationally has a continuity with the faith and moral teachings of for example, the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.

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§ 5. to proceed suitably to verify that the parishes canonically erected for the benefit of these faithful are effective for their spiritual growth, and to determine whether or not to retain them;

Lionel: Parishes and groups which do not interpret Vatican Council II rationally and in harmony with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Roman Missal, are not to be encouraged. They do not have the lex orandi, lex credendi of the Catholic Church.It does not change. It is dishonest to choose a False Premise to create a False Break with the past.Pope Francis in Traditionis Custode is officially choosing the False Premise. It was the same with Pope Benedict in Summorum Pontificum.Pope Benedict did not choose the Rational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS according to the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.



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§ 6. to take care not to authorize the establishment of new groups.

Art. 4. Priests ordained after the publication of the present Motu Proprio, who wish to celebrate using the Missale Romanum of 1962, should submit a formal request to the diocesan Bishop who shall consult the Apostolic See before granting this authorization.

Lionel: The Missale Romanum of 1962 and earlier must still be the norm at Holy Mass. Since the New Missal with its new theology and new ecclesiology, has its foundation in Vatican Council II, irrational.It is the False Premise which creates the New Ecumenism and New Theology.There is no New Ecclesiology with the rational interpretation of the Council.

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Art. 5. Priests who already celebrate according to the Missale Romanum of 1962 should request from the diocesan Bishop the authorization to continue to enjoy this faculty.

Art. 6. Institutes of consecrated life and Societies of apostolic life, erected by the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, fall under the competence of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies for Apostolic Life.

Art. 7. The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments and the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, for matters of their particular competence, exercise the authority of the Holy See with respect to the observance of these provisions.

Lionel : They need to follow Vatican Council II ( rational ) and only recommend this interpretation of the Council. To recommend Vatican Council II ( irrational ) would be deceptive.-Lionel Andrades

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Art. 8. Previous norms, instructions, permissions, and customs that do not conform to the provisions of the present Motu Proprio are abrogated.

Everything that I have declared in this Apostolic Letter in the form of Motu Proprio, I order to be observed in all its parts, anything else to the contrary notwithstanding, even if worthy of particular mention, and I establish that it be promulgated by way of publication in “L’Osservatore Romano”, entering immediately in force and, subsequently, that it be published in the official Commentary of the Holy See, Acta Apostolicae Sedis.

Given at Rome, at Saint John Lateran, on 16 July 2021, the liturgical Memorial of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, in the ninth year of Our Pontificate.

FRANCIS

https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/motu_proprio/documents/20210716-motu-proprio-traditionis-custodes.html


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JUNE 26, 2022


Bishops have to permit the Latin Mass only for those who interpret the Council rationally and so support the 1962 Roman Missal: there now are two doctrinal interpretations of Traditionis Custode
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/06/bishops-have-to-permit-latin-mass-only.html

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DECEMBER 16, 2021




In Traditionis Custode Vatican Council II is interpreted without the Rational Premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/in-traditionis-custode-vatican-council.html








DECEMBER 18, 2021



There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II. Traditionis Custode chooses the wrong one
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/there-are-two-interpretations-of.html


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DECEMBER 19, 2021



Traditionis Custode creates division on the Eucharist it supports sacrilege and scandal when it changes the interpretation of Vatican Council II with a False Premise to produce political liberalism in the Church.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/traditionis-custode-creates-division-on.html






DECEMBER 18, 2021

Traditionis Custode uses the false premise. Catholics are not obliged to follow it. It is immoral and unethical.This is ecclesial division

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/traditionis-custode-uses-false-premise.html














Cari figli, mentre con materna preoccupazione guardo nei vostri cuori, vedo dolore e sofferenza

APPELLO DI DIO PADRE ALL' UMANITA'!

Bishops have to permit the Latin Mass only for those who interpret the Council rationally and so support the 1962 Roman Missal: there now are two doctrinal interpretations of Traditionis Custode






Brother Andre Marie MICM Prior at the St.Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire interprets Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and so his interpretation of Traditionis Custode would be different from that of Pope Francis and Cardinal Ladaria who use the False Premise.

Pope Francis’ Traditionis Custode should only be interpreted with generally acceptable reasoning. Otherwise it is dishonest and unethical.

Governments must only interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise. This must be the norm in educational institutions etc.


So the bishops have to permit the Latin Mass only for those who interpret the Council rationally and so support the 1962 Roman Missal.This is the only ethical option.

Students and teachers must only interpret LG 8,LG 14,LG 16,UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, as referring to hypothetical and invisible cases in the present times ( 1965-2022).

DOCTRINAL CONFUSION WITH TRADITIONIS CUSTODE

Presently there is confusion with Traditionis Custode. Bishops interpret LG 8,LG 14,LG 16, UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions for the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors. So they imply that LG 8 etc refer to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church (they would have to be known and visible to be exceptions). Invisible people cannot be exceptions.

For me LG 8 etc are not visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) and the baptism of desire (LG 14) in 2022.

So for the bishops (but not me) there are practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church (Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc).They are telling the world invisible people are visible.


This is not our human reality. Invisible people cannot be visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church last year or this year.

This is irrational and even non Catholics, including professors and politicians, are repeating this error at secular institutions.

The Federal Ministry of Education in Germany, Hungary, Poland and France, for example, must show the Catholic bishops and people at large that LG 8 etc refer to invisible cases in our reality, always. So always they are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church. This must be the official position of the Ministries of Education etc in different countries.


THIS IS A SECULAR ISSUE

This is a secular issue when invisible people are assumed to be physically visible and new philosophies and a theology is created based upon this objective error. The premise is irrational for everyone, irrespective of his religion or education.

A person could be free to believe what he wants but the government must not interpret Vatican Council II irrationally by confusing what is invisible as being visible and hypothetical as being objective and then projecting this objective mistake as being socially acceptable.

A pope is not Magisterial when he interprets Church Documents with a False Premise and knows that there will be a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Church, inspired by the Holy Spirit.

From the secular point of view an objective and factual error must not be accepted in the schools, universities etc.

HOLY SPIRIT CANNOT TEACH AN OBJECTIVE ERROR

  A recent stage of this dynamic was constituted by Vatican Council II where the Catholic episcopate came together to listen and to discern the path for the Church indicated by the Holy Spirit. To doubt the Council is to doubt the intentions of those very Fathers who exercised their collegial power in a solemn manner cum Petro et sub Petro in an ecumenical council, and, in the final analysis, to doubt the Holy Spirit himself who guides the Church.- Letter of Pope Francis which accompanies TraditionisCustodehttps://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/letters/2021/documents/20210716-lettera-vescovi-liturgia.html

 

Every Catholic and both the popes must accept Vatican Council II. They must only accept Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. The Holy Spirit cannot teach error. But Pope Francis does not accept Vatican Council II interpreted with a Rational Premise.

The Holy Spirit cannot guide the Church to use the False Premise, ‘the Red Column’ to interpret the Council.

When Pope Francis cited Vatican Council II (irrational) to justify Amoris Laetitia it was wrong.

When he cited Vatican Council II (irrational) to justify the Abu Dhabi Statement it was wrong.

When Pope Benedict cited Vatican Council II (irrational) to reject Traditional Mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Church, it was wrong.

MORTAL SINS THE SAME AFTER VATICAN COUNCIL II (RATIONAL)

Vatican Council II interpreted rationally takes the Catholic Church back to the old theology upon which was based traditional faith and morals. So we know that adultery, fornication, immodesty, abortion, contraception, homosexual marriages, pornography, concubinage, divorce, inter-faith marriages, drug abuse etc are still mortal sins and they take a person to the fires of Hell for all eternity. There is no change in the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church after Vatican Council II ( rational).The effect of these sins are removed from the soul through repentance in the Sacrament of Confession.

-Lionel Andrades












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June 25, 2022 "Dear children, I rejoice with you and thank you for every sacrifice and prayer, which you have offered for my intentions. Little children, do not forget that you are important in my plan of salvation of mankind. Return to God and prayer that the Holy Spirit may work in you and through you. Little children, I am with you also in these days when Satan is fighting for war and hatred. Division is strong and evil is at work in man as never before. Thank you for having responded to my call." 06/25/2022

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