Tuesday, April 23, 2013

Robert Sungenis

There you will find a better reason than Cardinal Kasper’s as to why Vatican II, which was led by the Holy Spirit just as the twenty councils before it, was divinely permitted to contain ambiguities. It is much deeper than what Cardinal Kasper is revealing. God allowed the ambiguities as a judgment against the Church for her sins.-Robert Sungenis
Understandable but how can the Holy Spirit teach a factual error ?

On the issue of other religions and ecumenism how could God make the present day objective error ?

How could God say that we can see the dead, we can name those non Catholics in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance, how can God say that those saved with 'elements of sanctification' are visible to the physical eye ?

Yet this is what the liberals and traditionalists are saying and so for them there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so Vatican Council II is a break with the past.

In a series of talks on the subject No Salvation Outside the Church available on Youtube Robert Sungenis has also said that every one needs to enter the Church except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. Except for these cases? Do we know any of these cases in 2013? Does any Magisterial text say that we know any of these cases ? Why do they have to be mentioned as exceptions?

So on the issue of other religions and ecumenism there is no rational basis for any ambiguity and yet we see so much of it.
So the fault is not with God it is with us.
We just have to correct the irrationality and Vatican Council II is traditional on the issue of other religions and ecumenism.
-Lionel Andrades

http://www.catholicintl.com/index.php/component/content/article/73-vatican/1201-cardinal-kasper-admits-to-intentional-ambiguities-in-vatican-ii


DID ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE AND CARDINAL WALTER KASPAR USE THE SAME WRONG PREMISE IN INTERPRETING VATICAN COUNCIL II ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/did-archbishop-marcel-lefebvre-and.html#links

SSPX (USA) falls for the Cardinal Kaspar canard
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/sspx-usa-falls-for-cardinal-kaspar.html#links


Catholic Culture : kettle calls the pot black
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/catholic-culture-kettle-calls-pot-black.html


How can the Holy Spirit teach error,Pope Francis ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/how-can-holy-spirit-teach-errorpope.html#links