Monday, November 21, 2022

Young Germans must produce a video showing how Bishop George Batzing is dishonest

 


Young Germans must produce a video showing how Bishop George Batzing is dishonest. He is unethical when he chooses to use an Irrational Premise.With the Irrational Premise he confuses what it invisible as being visible. In this way he creates so-called practical exceptions.There are practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. He produces alleged objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( with no known exceptions) and the Syllabus of Errors( with no known exceptions).So there is a break with Tradition.

How can Bishop Batzing continue to interpret Vatican Council II with an Irrational Premise to create a rupture with Catholic Tradition? This is unethical even by secular standards. How can he be trusted on other issues, finances etc.?-Lionel Andrades


NOVEMBER 21, 2022

How can Bishop Georg Batzing continue to interpret Vatican Council II with an Irrational Premise to create a break with Catholic Tradition. This is unethical even by secular standards. How can he be trusted on other issues, finances etc.

 

How can Bishop Georg Batzing continue to interpret Vatican Council II with an Irrational Premise to create a break with Catholic Tradition. This is unethical even by secular standards. How can he be trusted on other issues, finances etc? - Lionel Andrades



MARCH 22, 2022

The German Federal Ministry of Information and the Education Ministry must ask Bishop Georg Batzing to correct the error. The Vatican diplomat in Germany must do the same. Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria must correct the mistake. The Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany must interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise.

 

Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference can take, the German Church back to the original teachings of the Church.

1.     He must not use a Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents (Vatican Council II etc.

2.     He must interpret Church Documents (Vatican Council II, Creeds, Catechisms etc) with a Rational Premise. This is Catholic and it is being honest.

 I interpret Church Documents with the Rational Premise.So there are no practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X, the Athanasius Creed and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), for me.

Now Vatican Council II is being interpreted with a Fake Premise by the German Bishops Conference and the German Synodal Way.

The Fake Premise is used by the German government, Lutheran, ecumenical and inter-faith organizations.

Bishop Georg Batzing uses the Fake Premise (invisible people are visible) instead of the Rational Premise (invisible people are invisible in 2022). He then chooses the False Inference ( invisible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church as referred to in LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are physically visible in 1965-2022). He does not choose the Rational Inference( invisible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water, are always invisible for us in these present times)

So with the Fake Premise the non-traditional conclusion is outside the Church there is known salvation and there are exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors etc. This is not the orthodox, and traditional conclusion of outside the Church there is no known salvation, LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases only. So there are no practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors, the Creeds and Catechisms and the dogma EENS in the present times. There is no break with Tradition.

The German Federal Ministry of Information and the Education Ministry must ask Bishop Georg Batzing to correct the error. The Vatican diplomat in Germany must do the same. Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria must correct the mistake.

The Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany must interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise.This is being ethical and Catholic.   -Lionel Andrades

MARCH 21, 2022

Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference can no more interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise

 

                                                                                                                                                          -Lionel Andrades

MARCH 21, 2022

Bettina Stark-Watzinger is the Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany : she could check the mistakes on Vatican Council II being taught at the schools, colleges and universities

 

                                                                                                                                              -Lionel Andrades

MARCH 16, 2022

The German Ministry of Education must interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ask the German Bishops Conference to do the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                      -Lionel Andrades





MARCH 13, 2022

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes : the German government and secular and Protestant organizations accept the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

 

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes.

Heresy and schism were mortal sins for the Catholic Church in Germany before the 1940ìs. Now with the False Premise, creating a new fake theology there is no doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church on the First Commandment. ‘I am the Lord your God, thou shalt have no other God but me’. There is also no more unity on the Nicene Creed and the Athanasius Creed.

For the German Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX were made obsolete with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with a False Premise.

So the German Synodal Way does not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since there are alleged  exceptions in Vatican Council II, when it is interpreted irrationally by the German cardinals and bishops.

This is also the irrational interpretation of German Head of States, Chancellors and Government offices.

Now the German government and German secular

and Protestant organizations accept the German Catholic cardinals and bishops’ fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 12, 2022


Is the German Synodal Way legal?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/03/is-german-synodal-way-legal_12.html






1 Athanasius Creed
















2.Nicene Creed








3.Apostles Creed





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SEPTEMBER 25, 2018

Repost : Will Cardinal Marx and the German bishops violate their Constitution and laws ?

 JULY 7, 2018

Will Cardinal Marx and the German bishops violate their Constitution and laws ?

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What happens when Cardinal Marx and the German bishops conference find out that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I)  can be interpreted as referring to only hypothetical cases and it is the same with Vatican Council II's LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc ?

VATICAN COUNCIL II NO MORE CONTRADICTS EENS
It would mean that Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church and the Protestants are out of the Church in general.They are on the way to Hell.They need to  convert into the Catholic Church as members for salvation.This is traditional Catholic doctrine not contradicted by Vatican Council II.Will the German bishops be able to affirm outside the Church there is no salvation?
Will they be able to ask Catholics who work in hospitals, schools and government offices  in Germany to do the same? Will they inform the Zionists in Germany that this is the doctrinal teaching of the Catholic Church before and after Vatican Council II?

LAY CATHOLICS WILL AFFIRM VATICAN COUNCIL II AND EENS
How will Cardinal Marx react when lay Catholics, or even priests and bishops, cite the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994) and Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) to affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), as it was known to the Magisterium and the missionaries in the 16th century?
Will he tell them that they must interpret BOD, BOB and I.I and also LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc  as referring to known people in 2018 saved outside the Church, saved without 'faith and baptism'?
Will he tell a lie?
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Will he inform the President of Germany that he personally knows of non Catholics, who will be going to Heaven or who are there in Heaven, even though they are not members of the Catholic Church?
Will he ask Catholics to say that they believe LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, GS 22 etc refer to visible people who are saved or will be saved, in the present times, outside the Church and so the dogma EENS is obsolete?
If there are Catholics who say that LG 16 etc do not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation, will he refuse to give them the Eucharist ?

PROTESTANTS ARE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH ACCORDING TO VATICAN COUNCIL II (AG 7) AND EENS(CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE 1441)
What about Protestants who are married to Catholics, will he tell them that they are outside the Church and their marriage is adultery and a mortal sin?
If Cardinal Marx is accused in a civil court of promoting deception and a lie will he deny it and defend himself?
Will he agree that it is a lie to say that BOD, BOB and I.I and in Vatican Council II LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to known people in the present times saved outside the Catholic Church? Will he claim that this is rational and honest?
Will Cardinal Marx and the German bishops violate their Constitution and laws and say outside the Church there is no salvation and the Catholic Church has the superiority and exclusiveness in salvation, according to Vatican Council II(AG 7)?


Will he agree with Cardinal Raymond Burke  and say other religions are not paths to salvation (AG 7-all need faith and baptism for salvation) and the one, true Church of Christ subsists in only the Catholic Church(LG 8), it is the Catholic Church(UR 3) ?
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Will he like Cardinal Angelo Amato call for mission based on Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14) ?
Or will he be ashamed to say that Vatican Council II(NA 4) says Catholics are the new people of God, the Chosen People?
Will Cardinal Marx and the German Bishops choose to deny Catholic doctrine and go into official schism ?
-Lionel Andrades
(First Saturday) 
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Lionel Andrades Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.  Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral. It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option. Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional? It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents. Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission) E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com Twitter : @LionelAndrades1 ___________________










 
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How can Bishop Georg Batzing continue to interpret Vatican Council II with an Irrational Premise to create a break with Catholic Tradition. This is unethical even by secular standards. How can he be trusted on other issues, finances etc.

 

How can Bishop Georg Batzing continue to interpret Vatican Council II with an Irrational Premise to create a break with Catholic Tradition. This is unethical even by secular standards. How can he be trusted on other issues, finances etc? - Lionel Andrades



MARCH 22, 2022

The German Federal Ministry of Information and the Education Ministry must ask Bishop Georg Batzing to correct the error. The Vatican diplomat in Germany must do the same. Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria must correct the mistake. The Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany must interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise.

 

Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference can take, the German Church back to the original teachings of the Church.

1.     He must not use a Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents (Vatican Council II etc.

2.     He must interpret Church Documents (Vatican Council II, Creeds, Catechisms etc) with a Rational Premise. This is Catholic and it is being honest.

 I interpret Church Documents with the Rational Premise.So there are no practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X, the Athanasius Creed and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), for me.

Now Vatican Council II is being interpreted with a Fake Premise by the German Bishops Conference and the German Synodal Way.

The Fake Premise is used by the German government, Lutheran, ecumenical and inter-faith organizations.

Bishop Georg Batzing uses the Fake Premise (invisible people are visible) instead of the Rational Premise (invisible people are invisible in 2022). He then chooses the False Inference ( invisible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church as referred to in LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are physically visible in 1965-2022). He does not choose the Rational Inference( invisible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water, are always invisible for us in these present times)

So with the Fake Premise the non-traditional conclusion is outside the Church there is known salvation and there are exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors etc. This is not the orthodox, and traditional conclusion of outside the Church there is no known salvation, LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases only. So there are no practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors, the Creeds and Catechisms and the dogma EENS in the present times. There is no break with Tradition.

The German Federal Ministry of Information and the Education Ministry must ask Bishop Georg Batzing to correct the error. The Vatican diplomat in Germany must do the same. Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria must correct the mistake.

The Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany must interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise.This is being ethical and Catholic.   -Lionel Andrades






MARCH 21, 2022

Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference can no more interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise

 

                                                                                                                                                          -Lionel Andrades

MARCH 21, 2022

Bettina Stark-Watzinger is the Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany : she could check the mistakes on Vatican Council II being taught at the schools, colleges and universities

 

                                                                                                                                              -Lionel Andrades

MARCH 16, 2022

The German Ministry of Education must interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ask the German Bishops Conference to do the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                      -Lionel Andrades





MARCH 13, 2022

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes : the German government and secular and Protestant organizations accept the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

 

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes.

Heresy and schism were mortal sins for the Catholic Church in Germany before the 1940ìs. Now with the False Premise, creating a new fake theology there is no doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church on the First Commandment. ‘I am the Lord your God, thou shalt have no other God but me’. There is also no more unity on the Nicene Creed and the Athanasius Creed.

For the German Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX were made obsolete with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with a False Premise.

So the German Synodal Way does not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since there are alleged  exceptions in Vatican Council II, when it is interpreted irrationally by the German cardinals and bishops.

This is also the irrational interpretation of German Head of States, Chancellors and Government offices.

Now the German government and German secular and Protestant organizations accept the German Catholic cardinals and bishops’ fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 12, 2022


Is the German Synodal Way legal?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/03/is-german-synodal-way-legal_12.html






1 Athanasius Creed
















2.Nicene Creed








3.Apostles Creed









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