Thursday, March 16, 2017

The dogma which Pope Pius XII called an 'infallible teaching' has been set aside and there still is a new salvation doctrine in the Catholic Church which is a rupture with Revelation over the centuries

Let me sumarize  our latest discussion. Father Feeney and Cardinal Cushing  were BOTH wrong in the letter of 1949.  Father Fenney was wrong when he dismissed BOB< BOD and II as being IMPOSSIBLE  AFTER  death for ALL deceased individuals and said that there salvation was impossible.
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This is an interpretation.
Fr.Leonard Feeney accepted the possibility of a catechumen having a desire for the baptism of water and being justified.
Salvation would come when God would send a preacher to baptise him with water even after he dies.This is possible St.Francis Xavier tells us.
However either way it is still a hypothetical case. It is still speculation since we do not and cannot know of any such catechumen in real life.
So it is irrelevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is not an exception.
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  Cardinal Cushing was wrong when he said that his jewish non Catholic relatives would be saved by God. That is totally up to God for reasons unknown to us on earth.  There is No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church.
 AS far as BOB(baptism of blood),baptism of desire ( BOD)  and Invincible ignorance (II) are concerned, both BOB and BOD have been visible to Catholics after they have died.
Catholics in Heaven could see them? On earth they are unknown and not physically visible to any one.The Church does not say that any Catholic had the ability or charism to see people in Heaven, who were there without the baptism of water.

 They are saints as designated by the Catholic Church and in Heaven and most importantly are always Catholic.
If the Church; someone in the Church has said that a saint is in Heaven without the baptism of water,this would be speculation. Since physically no one on earth could see any such case.
So you see Lionel, this is why we need to teach  ALL  that the means to Salvation is within the confines of the Catholic Church outside which there is NO salvation.....
You contradict yourself. For you there are known cases of people in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire and blood and without the baptism of water and at the same time you say outside the Church there is no salvation.
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You are saying there are known exceptions to John 3:5 and Mark 16:16 while you are unable to name any one personally who is an exception without the baptism of water.
You do not support the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma as it was known to the 16th century missionaries while you assume some unknown person in the past, in the Church, saw people in Heaven with the baptism of desire or blood and without the baptism of water.Image result for Photo of St.Francis Xavier
This is contradictory.You contradict St.Francis Xavier, St. Robert Bellarmine, St.Ignatius of Loyola.

“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)

It does not mention any exception here. It does not refer to the baptism of desire or  blood as an exception.

“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (
Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)

Again there is no mention of the baptism of desire or any explicit exception.There is no  violation of the Principle of Non Contradiction by assuming invisible cases are visible and so they are objective exceptions to all needing 'to remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.'

So the confusion was brought into the Church with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which assumed invisible cases were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

This error was repeated in Vatican Council II by Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits.
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It was supported by the liberal theologians Fr.Karl Rahner s.j, Fr.Jacquis Dupuis s.j and Fr.Hans Kung S.j with the support of the liberal-Left media .

It was supported by the magisterium of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.This new theology based on a false premise is there in Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, two theological papers of the International Theological Commission etc.

It was endorsed in public last March 2016 by Pope Benedict XVI when he said that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was in the 16th century. He meant that Catholic doctrine and dogma had been changed. No one protested as they now protest over Amoris Laetitia.

Pope Benedict XVI  stated that there was a development of doctrine with Vatican Council II.He meant that with the New Theology, based on invisible cases of the baptism of desire etc not being invisible and which 'visibly' excluded  the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as it was known over the centuries was contradicted. It did not exist any more.This would have been appreciated by the Jewish Left.It would be in harmony with the agenda of the Masons, the one world religion people.With alleged known salvation outside the Church there is the new ecumenism.Protestants do not need to convert and Jews can be saved in their religion through Jesus and the Church without them having to know Christ or be members of the Catholic Church. This was the new theology of Cardinal Ratzinger.

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It is also the basis of a Theology of Religions expressed in Christianity and the World Religions issued by the International Theological Commission which cardinals Ratzinger and Ladaria approved.This was ITC's Christian Theology of Religious Pluralism which is the new theology approved by Pope Francis.The ITC paper  was contradicted by the CDF Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis S.j which probably Pope John Paul II asked Cardinal Ratzinger to issue.

So in the Catechism of the Catholic Church cardinals Schonborn and Ratzinger refer to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as an 'aphorism'.

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There was no mention in the Catechism (1995) about the injustice done to the priest from Boston. It was Cardinal Cushing who was in heresy and not Fr. Leonard Feeney.Cushing and the Rome magisterium suggested that there were exceptions to the dogma as it was known over the centuries when no one could name an exception in real life.There were professors at Boston College who lost their jobs when they were only being faithful to the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church and Jesuits were not faithful.They were denying the faith with an innovation.

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The dogma which Pope Pius XII called an 'infallible teaching' has been set aside and there still is a new salvation doctrine in the Catholic Church which is a rupture with Revelation over the centuries.This was a revolution in the Catholic Church by the hierarchy at the time of Fr.Leonard Feeney.-Lionel Andrades


March 16, 2017
Pope Benedict XVI and the other liberal theologians( Rahner, Kung etc) made an objective mistake. Based on bad philosophy they created a new bad theology

Gospel Reading today at Holy Mass on the Rich Man and Lazarus

March 16, 2017 

Thursday of the Second Week of Lent

Reading 1JER 17:5-10

Thus says the LORD:
Cursed is the man who trusts in human beings,
who seeks his strength in flesh,
whose heart turns away from the LORD.
He is like a barren bush in the desert
that enjoys no change of season,
But stands in a lava waste,
a salt and empty earth.
Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD,
whose hope is the LORD.
He is like a tree planted beside the waters
that stretches out its roots to the stream:
It fears not the heat when it comes,
its leaves stay green;
In the year of drought it shows no distress,
but still bears fruit.
More tortuous than all else is the human heart,
beyond remedy; who can understand it?
I, the LORD, alone probe the mind
and test the heart,
To reward everyone according to his ways,
according to the merit of his deeds.

Responsorial PsalmPS 1:1-2, 3, 4 AND 6

R. (40:5a) Blessed are they who hope in the Lord.
Blessed the man who follows not
the counsel of the wicked
Nor walks in the way of sinners,
nor sits in the company of the insolent,
But delights in the law of the LORD
and meditates on his law day and night.
R. Blessed are they who hope in the Lord.
He is like a tree
planted near running water,
That yields its fruit in due season,
and whose leaves never fade.

Whatever he does, prospers.

R. Blessed are they who hope in the Lord.

Not so, the wicked, not so;

they are like chaff which the wind drives away.
For the LORD watches over the way of the just,
but the way of the wicked vanishes.

R. Blessed are they who hope in the Lord.

Verse Before The Gospel
SEE LK 8:15

Blessed are they who have kept the word with a generous heart
and yield a harvest through perseverance.

LK 16:19-31

Jesus said to the Pharisees:
"There was a rich man who dressed in
 purple garments and fine linen
and dined sumptuously each day.
And lying at his door was a poor man named
 Lazarus, covered with sores,
who would gladly have eaten his fill of 
the scraps that fell from the rich man's table.
Dogs even used to come and lick his sores.
When the poor man died,
he was carried away by angels to the bosom
 of Abraham.
The rich man also died and was buried,
and from the netherworld, where he was
 in torment,he raised his eyes and saw 
Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
And he cried out, 'Father Abraham, have 
pity on me.
Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger 
in water and cool my tongue,
for I am suffering torment in these flames.'
Abraham replied, 'My child,
remember that you received what 
was good during your lifetime
while Lazarus likewise received what
 was bad;but now he is comforted 
here, whereas you are tormented.
Moreover, between us and you a great 
chasm is established
to prevent anyone from crossing
who might wish to go from our side
 to yours or from your side to ours.'
He said, 'Then I beg you, father,
 send him to my father's house,
for I have five brothers, so that he
 may warn them,lest they too come 
to this place of torment.'
But Abraham replied, 'They have
 Moses and the prophets.
Let them listen to them.'
He said, 'Oh no, father Abraham,
but if someone from the dead goes 
to them, they will repent.'
Then Abraham said,
'If they will not listen to Moses and 
the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded
if someone should rise from the dead.'"