Monday, February 11, 2019

Minim Fathers at the Basilica of Sant' Andrea delle Fratte, Rome are irrational : 'the red is not an exception to the blue'

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 CATECHISM CLASSES
According to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church all need faith and baptism for salvation, all need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. But this is not being taught at in Catechism classes at the Basilica of Sant Andrea delle Fratte, Rome.

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."(17) Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II 
The passage in blue is in harmony with the old dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), an exclusive ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
The passage in red refers to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities, speculation.We personally do not know any one saved as such in 2019. So the passage in red is not an exception  to the passage in blue.But for the religious congregation founded by St.Francis of Paola, at the Basilica of St. Andrea delle Fratte where Alphonse Ratisbonne saw Our Lady, the passage in red is an exception to the passage in blue.
This is irrational.It would mean there is known salvation outside the Church. 

MIMIMS DO NOT PROCLAIM EXCLUSIVE SALVATION IN THE CHURCH 
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Since they wronGly assume that there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church, the Minim Fathers and Sisters do not say that everyone needs to be a Catholic for salvation and in Heaven there are only Catholics.
They separate Jesus from the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation.They want to proclaim the Kingdom of God without the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church. They are unable to say that all Christians in general, are oriented to Hell unless they enter and remain in the Catholic Church.
They do not say that the Church teaches in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, that all non Christians are oriented to Hell unless they enter  the Catholic Church with faith and baptism(AG 7, LG 14) in 2019.
But Ad Gentes 7 says all need to enter the Church for salvation. All includes those who know and those who do not know about Jesus and the Church.We do not know any one saved in invincible ignorance. We do not know any one 'made known by the Church's preaching' who will be an objective exception the dogma EENS or the Ad Gentes 7. All need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.If there is an exception it would only be known to God. The norm is faith and baptism. It is not invincible ignorance.
In the past there were no practical exceptions to to the dogma EENS (  Fourth Lateran Council (1215),Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam sanctam (1302): Cantate Domino, Council of Florence (1441), Catechism of Pope Pius X etc).
The Catholic Church teaches in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church that all non Christians are oriented to Hell unless they enter the Church with faith and baptism (AG 7, LG 14).There can be no known exceptions for us human beings. There are none in 2019.
But at Catechism classes the Minim Fathers will not teach that all non Christians are oriented to Hell unless they accept Jesus, enter the Catholic Church  with faith and baptism and live the teachings of this one, holy and apostolic Church, the only Church Jesus founded. 
 Instead they use false reasoning, a false premise and inference and then change the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church on exlusive salvation.This is deception. 'The red is not an exception to the blue'. Yet this is how they interpret magisterial documents.-Lionel Andrades


January 21, 2019

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Anniversary of Our Lady's apparitions to Alphonse Ratisbonne at the Basilica of Sant Andrea delle Fratte, Rome 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/anniversary-of-our-ladys-apparitions-to.html

January 19, 2019




Tomorrow is the 177th anniversary of Our Lady's apparitions to Alphonse Ratisbonne 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/tomorrow-is-177th-anniversary-of-our.html

January 22, 2019

 Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica (n.846) afferma l'interpretazione rigorosa e tradizionale dell extra ecclesiam nulla : Padri Minimi nella rottura con Alphonse Ratisbonne 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/catechismo-della-chiesa-cattolica-n846.html

Hell has fire and without faith and baptism you are going there.

Hell has fire and without faith and baptism you are going there.
-Teaching of the Catholic Church
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-L.A