Saturday, January 28, 2012

CATHOLIC DIOCESES OF WORCESTER, LOS ANGELES: THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE IS NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA OUTSIDE THE CHURCH NO SALVATION

A member of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in Los Angeles, California is reported as saying that they have not asked for canonical status in Los Angeles since they do not want to deny the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Sisters of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in Worcester it is said have been granted canonical status since they agreed to accept the teaching outside the Catholic Church No Salvation not as a dogma. They also agreed it is alleged to hold their interpretation of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.

General confusion still exists since bishops assume that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

They are not exceptions since they are known only to God. So in this sense they are irrelevant to the dogma. They could only be exceptions if they were explicitly known.

According to Peter Vere canonist all the communities of Fr.Leonard Feeney in Worcester uphold the understanding of the dogma as did Fr.Leonard Feeney i.e every one needs to enter the Catholic Church with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation (Ad Gentes 7). http://www.catholicism.org/downloads/Peter_Vere_SBC.pdf

There are no known exceptions of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance. They do not deny the baptism of desire which they accept is possible under certain conditions and is always known only to God.

Invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire being exceptions to the dogma is not part of the Deposit of the Faith. This theory originated in the 1940’s with the Archbishop of Boston Richard Cushing.

The dioceses of Worcester and Los Angeles could clarify, the obvious, for all Catholics, that there is no case of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance known to us and so they are not  relevant to the issue of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Also other Catholic religious communities in the dioceses could be free to uphold the centuries old interpretation of the dogma which Pope Pius XII called 'the infallible teaching'  (Letter of the Holy Office 1949) and accept, in principle, that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance etc is  known only to God.-Lionel Andrades
CAN EXISTING RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES IN CALIFORNIA AFFIRM THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND ALSO ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE AND BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2012/01/can-existing-religious-communities-in.html

JUSTICE IN CALIFORNIA