Sunday, January 13, 2013

THE LAST SECRET DOCTRINAL TALKS WERE BASED ON A FALSEHOOD



The last doctrinal talks between the Society of St.Pius X and the Vatican were secret.It was fraudulent also.


They were secret so that Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J could present new doctrine based on explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors.

The error of Cardinal Ladaria is not secret on the website of the International Theological Commission(ITC). Neither is it secret on the ITC/ Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) approved book Documenti which is available in the Pontifical University libraries in Rome.


Cardinal Ladaria was presenting the dead man walking theory which makes the Council modernist and a break with Tradition.


So for Cardinal Ladaria, the Secretary of the CDF, after Vatican Council II there were all new teachings in the church. They call it a development of doctrine.The basis for this development of doctrine; these new doctrines, is that implicit salvation is explicit and so an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He says this clearly in the ITC papers.I am repeating the ITC statement.(Christianity and the World Religions 1997 and The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die without being baptised Baptism).


This interpretation of Vatican Council II, in which implicit salvation is considered to be explicit, is the ADL, Masonic interpretation of the Council.It was presented to the SSPX during the 'doctrinal talks'.


This is organised fraud. May be Cardinal Ladaria was innocent and ignorant.However the talks were based on a falsehood.-Lionel Andrades

BISHOP BERNARD FELLAY COULD HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE THEOLOGY OF THE NOVOS ORDO MASS AS EVIL

The Traditional Latin Mass held before 1940 had the ecclesiology of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The Traditional Latin Mass now offered in Rome does not have this ecclesiology.Their theology is influenced by the false premise.

The Priestly Fraternity of St.Peter (FSSP) is welcomed in new parishes and dioceses since like the priests who offer the Novus Ordo Mass, they believe there are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They were formerly in the Society of St.Pius X. This was their formation. So for them Vatican Council II contradicts itself; LG 16 versus AG 7.Vatican Council II is also a break with the past.

It is this new theology which accompanies the Novos Ordo Mass, which Bishop Bernard Fellay strongly criticized. So did Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

The SSPX website recognizes that the Novus Ordo Mass is the Sacrifice of Jesus and acknowledges this point with respect.

The present ecclesiology/theology of the Novus Ordo Mass, its homilies, are Protestant.So perhaps in this sense Bishop Fellay means the Novos Ordo Mass is 'evil'.

Catholics who attend the Novus Ordo Mass accept Protestant theologies on salvation, modesty, sin. If they believed in the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus all this could change.   Protestants are on the way to Hell according to Vatican Council II (AG 7) unless they convert before death.-Lionel Andrades

SSPX RECONCILIATION POSSIBLE IN THREE STEPS


The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) priests in Rome could agree to a three point reconciliation with the Vatican on the subject of 'other religions'. They would agree with Step 1 that there is no implicit salvation visible.They have already agreed on this point. So  no implicit salvation mentioned in Vatican Council II is visible and explicit for us.

On Step 2.they would agree that Lumen Gentium 16 (with invincible ignorance) does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.So in a meeting with Ecclesia Dei there would be an agreement on these two points.

Since there is nothing in Vatican Council II, known to Ecclesia Dei or the SSPX position, which contradicts Ad Gentes 7, the Council does not contradict the traditional teaching on other religions.Both groups can make an announcement of an agreement on this subject.

This means that they both agree Step 3 that Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

When Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, it does not contradict the traditional teaching on ecumenism.AG 7 indicates Protestants, Pentecostals etc need to enter the Church for salvation.They do not have Catholic Faith.

Once there is an agreement on the subject of 'other religions', religious liberty is not an issue.Dignitatis Humanae refers to religious liberty in a state with a secular Constituion. This de facto situation is accepted by the  SSPX and the Vatican. However since they affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus they have a moral duty to proclaim the Catholic Faith. DH mentions this, with respect to other religions.

The last SSPX-Vatican secret talks were on failure since Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Secretary and Bishop Charles Morerod O.P,were using the dead are visible prmise.This was the basis for their theology of religions, ecclesiology of communion and ecumenism of return.

The SSPX priests in Rome say that the dead who are saved are not visible to us.So there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are not exceptions.They are exceptions to nothing.So in three simple steps there could be a reconciliation between the SSPX and the Vatican.-Lionel Andrades

ECCLESIA DEI PLEASE WORK OUT THE RECONCILIATION OF THE SSPX IN THREE SIMPLE STEPS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/ecclesia-dei-please-work-out.html