Thursday, January 23, 2020
Seminarians from the Eichstadt seminary study theology at the Catholic University of Eichstadt-Ingolstadt,Bavaria and they are taught to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.Students from the seminary of St. Willibrand have to interpret Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with a false premise and inference to study to become a priest.
Seminarians from the Eichstadt seminary study theology at the Catholic University of Eichstadt-Ingolstadt,Bavaria and they are taught to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.Students from the seminary of St. Willibrand have to interpret Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with a false premise and inference to study to become a priest.
For example, like Cardinal Reinhardt Marx and Bishop Gregor Maria Hanke, the faculty and students have to assume:-
1. The baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are examples of known salvation outside the Church in the present times(1965-2020) and so are practical exceptions to 16th century EENS.They would have to be known to be exceptions.Invisible people cannot be exceptions to the past ecclesiology and EENS
2. In Vatican Council II, invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are literal examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church and so are practical exceptions to EENS, an ecumenism of return and the past ecclesiocentric ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.
So there is an artificial rupture created with the Athanasius Creed. Outside the Church there is no salvation becomes outside the Church there is salvation. The Nicene Creed, Syllabus of Errors and Catechisms are re-interpreted wrongly to maintain the rupture with Tradition.
This is unethical and deceptive since Cardinal Marx and Bishop Hanke can interpret :-
1.BOD, BOB and I.I would refer to hypothetical cases only. They refer to speculative and theoretical cases only. They are not visible people saved outside the Catholic Church in 1965-2020.
2. LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc also refer to only hypothetical cases and are not personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times.
However the faculty and students at the Theological Department of the university and the seminarians at the Eichstatt seminary, are not allowed to use this rational approach.
Similarly vocations to the religious life have to interpret magisterial documents deceptively. The mandataum to teach theology is given only to those professors who use the deceptive and unethical method.
All religious communities are not allowed in the diocese of Munich to interpret Vatican Council II, EENS, the Creeds and Catechisms, rationally.-Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 23, 2020
Catholic University of Eichstätt-Ingolstadt, Bavaria under Cardinal Reinhardt Marx, interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a false rupture with EENS, an ecumenism of return and the past ecclesiology.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/catholic-university-of-eichstatt.html
JANUARY 22, 2020
Acies Ordinata : Cardinal Reinhardt Marx was not challenged to remove books on Vatican Council II and not give the mandatum to professors of theology at Eichstatt-Ingolstadt
JANUARY 20, 2020
It is unfortunate that young Catholics in Germany, have to re-interpret Vatican Council II,in an irrational and compromised version to keep the German church away from schism
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/it-is-unfortunate-that-young-catholics.html
JANUARY 20, 2020
Traditionalists who are in schism with the past popes on the Syllabus of Errors, the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB), invincible ignorance (I.I), the Athanasius Creed etc held an assembly prayer at Munich, Bavaria last Saturday against the 'schismatic' Cardinal Reinhardt Marx, Archbishop of Munich.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/traditionalists-who-are-in-schism-with.html
JANUARY 19, 2020
Catholic University of Eichstätt-Ingolstadt, Bavaria under Cardinal Reinhardt Marx, interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a false rupture with EENS, an ecumenism of return and the past ecclesiology.
At the Catholic University of Eichstätt-Ingolstadt , Bavaria under Cardinal Reinhardt Marx,they interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and so create a false rupture with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), an ecumenism of return and the past ecclesiology. With the error there emerges a before- -and-after- Vatican- Council- II theology.There is a also a false division with the Latin Mass-Novus Ordo Mass ecclesiology in Germany.
Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) ends this division. There is no more a pre and post Vatican Council theology since the Council is traditional.The ecclesiology at Mass in all rites is the same.Since there is no rupture with Tradition.
The Department of Theology at the Catholic University of Eichstätt-Ingolstadt must issue a statement correcting this error, with the approval of Cardinal Marx.
STUDENTS FORCED
Students must not be forced to interpret Vatican Council II assuming invincible ignorance cases are objective.They must not confuse what is invisible as being visible. This is a superficial and false way to read the Council.
VOCATIONS MUST BE FREE
Similarly vocations to the religious life in Germany must not demand that candidates interpret Vatican Council II with this irrationality to create an artificial rupture with Tradition, and only then they will be accepted.
RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES NOT RESTRICTED
Religiouis communities must be allowed to interpret Vatican Council without the false premise.
All the present books on Vatican Council II in the university library are now obsolete.They were written with the false premise.
UNIVERSITY LIBRARY BOOKS OBSOLETE
New books need to be wriiten based upon Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) and then there is no hermeneutic of rupture.Similarly the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 needs to be clarified.CCC 846 does not contraduct exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II (FEENEYITE)
In inter religious dialogue Cardinal Marx can no more follow Vatican Council II( Cushingite).
Non Catholics are oriented to Hell according to Ad Gentes 7 while LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc being invisible refer to invisible cases in 2020.They are not practical exceptions to Ad Gentes or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
There are no literal cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance to contradict EENS as it was interpreted in the times of the Astro Hungarian Catholic Empire.
I mentioned in a previous blog post that the
Acies Ordinata did not go on the offensive. They did not inform
Cardinal Marx that he does not interpret Vatican Council II with
Feeneyism.
So he and the present two popes are in schism with the popes over the centuries on on EENS, the
Athanasius Creed etc.They make invisible cases visible exceptions.
Cardinal
Marx and the faculty and students at the Catholic university and
seminary in Bavaria are also in heresy on the Nicene Creed, the past
ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They have thrown away the
Church's
faith teachings and this is a mortal sin.
He cannot use Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) as a precedent for making a change in society.
All
the books written on Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) promoted by the diocese need to be challenged as deception.Ask
Cardinal Marx to produce new books on the Council for young Catholics
and to remove the present books which are create a misunderstanding.
Cardinal Marx is unethical and
so are the German professors of philosophy and theology whom he has
approved at the Catholic University of Eichstatt-Ingolstadt in Bavaria.
When Pope Benedict was the Archbishop of Munich he also approved books
written with Cushingism. They are not Catholic and Cardinal Marx needs
to address this issue.He cannot knowingly support writings which Pope
Benedict calls a hermeneutic of rupture with the past.
ARCHDIOCESE OF MUNICH MISINFORMS
The
Archdiocese of Munich misinforms Catholics at in Germany on the
teachings of the Catholic Church. Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not
a
rupture with Catholic Tradition.These are the issues
that the Acies Ordinata did not bring up in Munich.
Similarly the German
priests and professors working at the Vatican and Italy must be
challenged on basic ethics and honesty.
What
about the case of the religious communities in Germany ? Why
must they interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and
inference to be accepted ? Why should a priest affirm Vatican Council II (
Cushingite) in Germany to be incardinated in Munich? Those who pay
Church tax are not obligated to tell a lie and then receive the
Sacraments. This is a legal issue.
FALSE MANDATUM TO TEACH THEOLOGY
Cardinal
Marx is not removing books on Vatican Council II even after being
informed.
He
is not holding back the mandatum to professors who teach Vatican
Council II with the false premise to create a rupture on the Council ,
even after receiving a notice.
Similarly the bishop in Regensburg and other German bishops can be systematically
challenged for spreading misinformation on Vatican Council II and the
teachings of the Catholic Church.
HOW DOES THE MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT RESPOND
How does the media, government and other organisations respond to the Catholic Church in Munich ? Is it with Vatican Council II with exceptions to EENS or does the Council have no exceptions to EENS ^
What is the policy on EENS- is it EENS with BOD, BOB and I.I being exceptions or not being exceptions.
EENS with exceptions implies that there are visible and known people saved outside the Church. It is assumed that there are literal cases of BOD, BOB and I.I for them to be practical exceptions to EENS. It would mean Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston made a mistake instead of the Holy Office(CDF) in 1949.
DECEPTIVE AND UNETHICAL
Claiming Vatican Council II has exceptions to EENS is deceptive and unethical.Similarly coercing the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney, the St. Benedict Centers to interpret LG 16(invincible ignorance) in Vatican Council II and CCC 847-848 ( invincible ignorance) as being exceptions to EENS is also deceptive and not Catholic.
CREDIBILITY OF OFFICES FOR CHILD PROTECTION IN MUNICH
The Offices for Child Protection and Safety of Minors in the Diocese of Munich are not going to be credible if they say EENS as exceptions and Vatican Council II has exceptions to EENS, when they cannot point out any in 2020.It means their reality of life is different from the rest of the German.
It is common sense. There are no physical bodies in Newton's time and space saved outside the Church, without 'faith and baptis'(AG 7). So Cardinal Marx cannot promote a false theology, which says there are and then change the interpretation of Vatican Council II and expect every one in Germany to follow the ruse.-Lionel Andrades
-Lionel Andrades
January 22, 2020
Acies Ordinata : Cardinal Reinhardt Marx was not challenged to remove books on Vatican Council II and not give the mandatum to professors of theology at Eichstatt-Ingolstadt
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/acies-ordinata-cardinal-reinhardt-marx.html
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The
unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but
dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over
the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of
water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the
baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or
more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and
ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic
Church'.
3. The
Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic
Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit
guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation
outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism
of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2,
GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of
salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)
in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for
Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with
their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With
the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It
affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible
ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics
saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a
hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris
Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were
all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive
salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted
EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past
ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without
the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the
necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
EXAMPLES OF THE HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN THE CATECHISM FOR THEM WHICH ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
1. 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257)
'2.all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body'(CC(CCC 846).
3. Those 'justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians'(CCC 818).
4. They are 'joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."(CCC 838).
5. 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims'(CCC 841).
1. 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257)
'2.all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body'(CC(CCC 846).
3. Those 'justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians'(CCC 818).
4. They are 'joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."(CCC 838).
5. 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims'(CCC 841).
EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II FOR THEM WHICH ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
1. 'elements of sanctification and truth'in other religions(LG 8),
2..'good and holy' things in other religions(NA 2),
3..'a ray of that Truth which enlightens' all men(NA 2),
4.'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3),
5.' people of good will in other religions'(GS 22),
6.' seeds of the Word'(AG 11),
7.'invincible ignorance'(LG 16),
8.'a good conscience'(LG 16) etc.
2..'good and holy' things in other religions(NA 2),
3..'a ray of that Truth which enlightens' all men(NA 2),
4.'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3),
5.' people of good will in other religions'(GS 22),
6.' seeds of the Word'(AG 11),
7.'invincible ignorance'(LG 16),
8.'a good conscience'(LG 16) etc.
OF BOSTON WHICH FOR THEM ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
1.Therefore,
no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely
established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or
withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.(We do not know who this person is in particular so it is a hypothetical case.)
2.In
His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one
to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's
final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution,
can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used
only in desire and longing.(We do not know any one in particular as such so this is a hypothetical case.)
3.Therefore,
that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that
he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is
necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.(
If there is any such person he or she would only be known to God. So
this passage is irrelevant to the dogma EENS. It cannot be an
exception.Since it is a reference to an invisible person for us.)
4.However,
this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but
when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an
implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good
disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to
the will of God.(This is a reference to an unknown catechumen)
5.For
in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between
those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and
those who are united to the Church only by desire.(
Again we have a theoretical and hypothetical reference. We do not know
who is united to the Church only in desire and will be saved.) -Lionel Andrades
TERMS EXPLAINED
TERMS EXPLAINED
Feeneyism: It is the old theology and philosophical reasoning which says there are no known
exceptions past or present, to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salus(EENS).There are no explicit cases to contradict the traditional
interpretation of EENS.It affirms traditional EENS like the missionaries
and magisterium of the 16th century.
Cushingism: It
is the new theology and philosophical reasoning, which assumes there
are known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS.There are
exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Church for
salvation.It wronly assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not
hypothetical but objectively known.In principle hypothetical cases are
objective in the present times.So it uses the false premise to reject
the traditional interpretation of EENS.
Irrational premise: It is assuming hypothetical cases are not hypothetical but instead are objective cases in the present times.
It assumes invisible and unknown people are visible and unknown in our reality.
Baptism of Desire ( premise-free): It
refers to the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen who desires
the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since
this is an invisible case in our reality it, the baptism of desire, is
not relevant to the dogma EENS.
Baptism of Desire (with the false premise): It
refers to the known case of a catechumen who desires the baptism of
water but dies before he receives it and is saved.A known person is
assumed to be known.
Invincible Ignorance ( premise-free): This
refers to the hypothetical case of someone allegedly saved without the
baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.Since
it is a hypothetical case it is not an exception to the dogma EENS.The
false premise was not used.
Invincible Ignorance (with the false premise): This
refers to the explicit case of someone allegedly saved without the
baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.Since
it is an exception to the dogma EENS it is assumed to be objectively
known in particular cases.This reasoning is irrational.
Council of Florence: One
of the three Councils which defined the dogma EENS.It did not mention
any exception.It did not mention the baptism of desire. It was premise-free.
Liberal theologians: They
re-interpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible
ignorance, as objective cases, known in the present times.They used the false premise.
Vatican Council II (with the premise):
It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II without the false premise.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer not to hypothetical but known cases in the present times. So Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the dogma EENS.
Vatican Council II ( premise-free):It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II without the false premise.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical cases, which are unknown personally in the present times.So Vatican Council II is not a
break with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, the
Nicene Creed ( premise-free),the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ
the King over all political legislation and the non separation of Church
and State( since all need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell).
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston:(with the false premise)
It
assumed hypothetical cases were defacto known in the present times. So
it presented the baptism of desire etc as an explicit exception, to the
traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS.It censured Fr.Leonard
Feeney and the St.Benedict Center.Since they did not assume that the
baptism of desire referred to a visible instead of invisible case.The
Letter made the baptism of desire etc relevant to EENs.From the second
part of this Letter has emerged the New Theology.It used the false premise.
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 ( premise-free). It means interpreting the first part of the the Letter without the false premise.Only the first part.It
supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.The traditional interpretatiion
of the dogma EENS does not mention any exceptions.However the second
part of the Letter contradicts the first part since it uses the false
premise.
Letter of the Holy Office ( with the false premise).The
second part of the Letter rejects the traditional interpretation of
EENS. Since it considers the baptism of desire ( with the premise) and
being saved in invincible ignorance ( with the premise) as being
exceptions to EENS (premise-free). In other words they are mistaken for
being visible and known cases when they really are invisible for us.It
wrongly assumes hypothetical cases are objectively visible and so they
are exceptions to the first part of the Letter.
Baltimore Catechism: It
assumed that the desire for the baptism of an unknown catechumen, who
dies before receiving it and was saved, was a baptism like the baptism
of water. So it was placed in the Baptism Section of the catechism. In
other words it was wrongly assumed that the baptism of desire is visible
and repeatable like the baptism of water or that we can administer it
like the baptism of water.The Baltimore Catechism is accepted with the confusion.It can be interpreted premise-free.
Catechism of Pope X: It
followed the Baltimore Catechism and placed the baptism of desire in
the Baptism Section.It can be interpreted as being premise -free. The
references to invincible ignorance etc have to be interpreted without
the false premise. So it does not contradict the dogma EENS( premise-free).
Nicene Creed ( with the premise): It
says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and means
there are more than three known baptisms when the false premise is used
in the interpretation. They are water, blood, desire, seeds of the Word
etc.This is an irrational but common understanding.
Nicene Creed ( premise-free): It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and means there is one known baptism the baptism of water.
New Theology: : (with the premise) It
refers to the new theology in the Catholic Church based on hypothetical
cases being objective in the present times.So it eliminates the dogma
EENS.With the dogma EENS made obsolete the ecclesiology of the Church
changes. There is a new ecclesiology which is a break with Tradition.It
is of course based on the false premise.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( with the false premise).It
refers to the dogma but with exceptions.All do not need to defacto
convert into the Church in the present times, since there are
exceptions.The baptism of desire( with the premise), baptism of blood(
with the premise) and being saved in invincible ignorance( with the
premise) are exceptions to dogma as it was known to the missionaries in
the 16th century.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( premise-free): It refers
to the dogma as it was interpreted over the centuries.There are no
known exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church, with faith
and baptism, to avoid Hell.Invisible for us baptism of desire, baptism
of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are not visible
exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Catholic Church
for salvation.
Catechism of the Catholic Church ( with the premise): CCC
1257 contradicts the Principle of Non Contraduction. Also CCC 848 is
based on the new theology and so is a rupture with the dogma EENS(
premise-free). So this is an interpretation of the Catechism with the false premise.
Catechism of the Catholic Church ( premise-free): CCC
1257 does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction since there
are no known exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for
salvation. There are no known cases in the present times of God not
being not limited to the Sacraments(CCC1257).
When
CCC 846 states all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the
Church,CCC 846 does not contradict the dogmatic teaching on all needing
to formally enter the Church.It is a reference to a hypothetical case
and not somebody known. CCC 846 does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which
states all need faith and baptism for salvation.
________________________
TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD(
Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the
baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved
and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible
ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven
without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG
8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true
Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the
baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved
and now in Heaven)
LG
16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith
and the baptism of water)
UR
3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the
unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith
or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to
someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA
2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside
the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with
good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth
which enlightens all mankind.
GS
22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is
saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and
baptism but with goodwill.
November 11, 2019
The Oxford University Press has produced many books on Vatican Council
II based upon a false premise. A deceptive rupture is created with
Catholic Tradition
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-oxford-university-press-has.html
Feeneyism: It is the old theology and philosophical reasoning which says there are no known
exceptions past or present, to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salus(EENS).There are no explicit cases to contradict the traditional
interpretation of EENS.It affirms traditional EENS like the missionaries
and magisterium of the 16th century.
Cushingism: It
is the new theology and philosophical reasoning, which assumes there
are known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS.There are
exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Church for
salvation.It wronly assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not
hypothetical but objectively known.In principle hypothetical cases are
objective in the present times.So it uses the false premise to reject
the traditional interpretation of EENS.
Irrational premise: It is assuming hypothetical cases are not hypothetical but instead are objective cases in the present times.
It assumes invisible and unknown people are visible and unknown in our reality.
Baptism of Desire ( premise-free): It
refers to the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen who desires
the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since
this is an invisible case in our reality it, the baptism of desire, is
not relevant to the dogma EENS.
Baptism of Desire (with the false premise): It
refers to the known case of a catechumen who desires the baptism of
water but dies before he receives it and is saved.A known person is
assumed to be known.
Invincible Ignorance ( premise-free): This
refers to the hypothetical case of someone allegedly saved without the
baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.Since
it is a hypothetical case it is not an exception to the dogma EENS.The
false premise was not used.
Invincible Ignorance (with the false premise): This
refers to the explicit case of someone allegedly saved without the
baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.Since
it is an exception to the dogma EENS it is assumed to be objectively
known in particular cases.This reasoning is irrational.
Council of Florence: One
of the three Councils which defined the dogma EENS.It did not mention
any exception.It did not mention the baptism of desire. It was premise-free.
Liberal theologians: They
re-interpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible
ignorance, as objective cases, known in the present times.They used the false premise.
Vatican Council II (with the premise):
It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II without the false premise.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer not to hypothetical but known cases in the present times. So Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the dogma EENS.
Vatican Council II ( premise-free):It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II without the false premise.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical cases, which are unknown personally in the present times.So Vatican Council II is not a
break with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, the
Nicene Creed ( premise-free),the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ
the King over all political legislation and the non separation of Church
and State( since all need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell).
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston:(with the false premise)
It
assumed hypothetical cases were defacto known in the present times. So
it presented the baptism of desire etc as an explicit exception, to the
traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS.It censured Fr.Leonard
Feeney and the St.Benedict Center.Since they did not assume that the
baptism of desire referred to a visible instead of invisible case.The
Letter made the baptism of desire etc relevant to EENs.From the second
part of this Letter has emerged the New Theology.It used the false premise.
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 ( premise-free). It means interpreting the first part of the the Letter without the false premise.Only the first part.It
supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.The traditional interpretatiion
of the dogma EENS does not mention any exceptions.However the second
part of the Letter contradicts the first part since it uses the false
premise.
Letter of the Holy Office ( with the false premise).The
second part of the Letter rejects the traditional interpretation of
EENS. Since it considers the baptism of desire ( with the premise) and
being saved in invincible ignorance ( with the premise) as being
exceptions to EENS (premise-free). In other words they are mistaken for
being visible and known cases when they really are invisible for us.It
wrongly assumes hypothetical cases are objectively visible and so they
are exceptions to the first part of the Letter.
Baltimore Catechism: It
assumed that the desire for the baptism of an unknown catechumen, who
dies before receiving it and was saved, was a baptism like the baptism
of water. So it was placed in the Baptism Section of the catechism. In
other words it was wrongly assumed that the baptism of desire is visible
and repeatable like the baptism of water or that we can administer it
like the baptism of water.The Baltimore Catechism is accepted with the confusion.It can be interpreted premise-free.
Catechism of Pope X: It
followed the Baltimore Catechism and placed the baptism of desire in
the Baptism Section.It can be interpreted as being premise -free. The
references to invincible ignorance etc have to be interpreted without
the false premise. So it does not contradict the dogma EENS( premise-free).
Nicene Creed ( with the premise): It
says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and means
there are more than three known baptisms when the false premise is used
in the interpretation. They are water, blood, desire, seeds of the Word
etc.This is an irrational but common understanding.
Nicene Creed ( premise-free): It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and means there is one known baptism the baptism of water.
New Theology: : (with the premise) It
refers to the new theology in the Catholic Church based on hypothetical
cases being objective in the present times.So it eliminates the dogma
EENS.With the dogma EENS made obsolete the ecclesiology of the Church
changes. There is a new ecclesiology which is a break with Tradition.It
is of course based on the false premise.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( with the false premise).It
refers to the dogma but with exceptions.All do not need to defacto
convert into the Church in the present times, since there are
exceptions.The baptism of desire( with the premise), baptism of blood(
with the premise) and being saved in invincible ignorance( with the
premise) are exceptions to dogma as it was known to the missionaries in
the 16th century.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( premise-free): It refers
to the dogma as it was interpreted over the centuries.There are no
known exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church, with faith
and baptism, to avoid Hell.Invisible for us baptism of desire, baptism
of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are not visible
exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Catholic Church
for salvation.
Catechism of the Catholic Church ( with the premise): CCC
1257 contradicts the Principle of Non Contraduction. Also CCC 848 is
based on the new theology and so is a rupture with the dogma EENS(
premise-free). So this is an interpretation of the Catechism with the false premise.
Catechism of the Catholic Church ( premise-free): CCC
1257 does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction since there
are no known exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for
salvation. There are no known cases in the present times of God not
being not limited to the Sacraments(CCC1257).
When
CCC 846 states all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the
Church,CCC 846 does not contradict the dogmatic teaching on all needing
to formally enter the Church.It is a reference to a hypothetical case
and not somebody known. CCC 846 does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which
states all need faith and baptism for salvation.
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TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD(
Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the
baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved
and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible
ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven
without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG
8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true
Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the
baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved
and now in Heaven)
LG
16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith
and the baptism of water)
UR
3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the
unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith
or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to
someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA
2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside
the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with
good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth
which enlightens all mankind.
GS
22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is
saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and
baptism but with goodwill.
November 11, 2019
The Oxford University Press has produced many books on Vatican Council II based upon a false premise. A deceptive rupture is created with Catholic Tradition
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-oxford-university-press-has.html
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