Thursday, December 16, 2021

In Traditionis Custode Vatican Council II is interpreted without the Rational Premise

 


When Pope Francis refers to Vatican Council II in Traditionis Custode it must be Vatican Council II interpreted rationally and not irrationally. Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally is heretical and schismatic. It is dishonest and unethical. It cannot be Magisterial since the Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake based upon a False Premise. The Holy Spirit would not use an irrationality to contradict the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

It is Magisterial to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This would be the interpretation of the Holy Spirit. Since the Council interpreted with the Rational Premise would be in harmony with the past Magisterium. There would be no heresy, schism and dishonest mistake. There would be the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition.

At Dijon, France the Latin laity must appeal to Pope Francis to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally  and call upon Bishop Roland Minnerath and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, to do the same.


They could appeal to Pope Francis to write his next encyclical with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc , would refer to only hypothetical and speculative cases in 2021.They are not personally known examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church. This is being rational. LG 8, LG 16 etc cannot be objective people in the present times, saved without faith and the baptism of water. Since such cases can only be known to God. The norm for salvation in the Catholic Church is faith and the baptism of water. So when we meet a non Catholic we know that he or she is oriented to the fires of Hell and is not an exception. There are no practical exceptions for us human beings. Vatican Council II supports the norm, the past ecclesiocentrism.

MESSAINLATINO, RORATE CAEILI

Now we have a rational and traditional choice on Vatican Council II yet all the Lefebvrist-traditionalist websites and blogs (Messainlatino, Rorate Caeili etc) interpret the Council irrationally like the liberals. So they cannot appeal to Pope Francis to re-interpret Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise and a traditional conclusion. With the common Fake Premise they contribute towards the present liberalism in the Church.

The traditionalist media supports the Lefebvrist interpretation of the Council, with the Fake Premise, but now we have a choice. We can choose to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and traditionally and appeal to the College of Cardinals to do the same.

Traditionis Custode must only be interpreted rationally and in harmony with the Deposit of the Faith, which does not change. So the Council is only Magisterial when the False Premise is not used to create an artificial break with Tradition.

When at the National Catechechetical Center, Italy (Jan 30.2021), Pope Francis said that Vatican Council II had to be accepted as he interprets it (with a false premise), the result had to be schism. There is a break with de fide teachings of the past Magisterium. To be Magisterial and non schismatic he would have to use the Rational Premise.

SCHISM WITH THE 'TRUE CHURCH'

With the Fake Premise we have schism with ‘the true Church’ represented by the Councils, Creeds, dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and other Magisterial Documents interpreted rationally. With the Fake Premise there is schism, irrespective of who uses it- cardinals, bishops, rectors or religious sisters.

This is an important point to note. Since the traditionalists did not bring it up when Pope Francis issued Traditionis Custode.He restricted the Latin Mass for the Ecclesia Dei communities. They have to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise and accept the nontraditional theological conclusion, upon which depends the New Ecumenism etc.

Even religious communities like the Dominicans, whose priests offer Holy Mass in English or Italian, have to use the Fake Premise. It is obligatory. Dominican priests cannot remain on the Angelicum faculty in Rome and be allowed to offer Holy Mass if they use the Rational Premise in public. The False Premise is obligatory for those who offer the Latin and Novus Ordo Mass. This message has not come out in the reports on Traditionis Custode.

Since the popes condone the common error of the False Premise, American foundations with the green light of the US bishops (USCCB) fund ecumenical studies at the Dominican Angelicum University, Rome, only for students who are non ecclesiocentric.Only those students can study at this pontifical university, who are dishonest and unethical and use a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II.

To reject the Athanasius Creed and to change the understanding of the Nicene and Apostles Creed, with a Fake Premise, is first class heresy, in the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendum Fidem) and the traditionalists are going along with it. It is schism in the Church. Pope Francis, in the Letter which accompanies Traditionis Custode,interprets Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise to create a fake rupture with Tradition and he calls it the work of the Holy Spirit.Rorate Caeili does not mention this.

Rorate Caeili (F.G) has reports critical of Archbishop Arthur Roche while this web blog interprets Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise, like Archbishop Roche.

Instead Rorate Caeili and Messainlatino should appeal to Pope Francis and Archbishop Arthur Roche to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. It should be acknowledged that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre made a mistake when he used the False Premise and we can move on from there. With the Rational Premise there will no more be ‘the new Magisterium’ of Archbishop Roche.

Don Pietro Leone writing on Rorate Caeili must know that times have changed. After 50 years we know that we are not obligated to use the Irrational Premise of Rahner, Ratzinger and Lefebvre.

The SSPX Resistance too has to change. They interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise like cardinals Sean O Malley, Walter Kasper and Raymond Leo Burke. Those who offer the Latin or Novus Ordo Mass and use the Fake Premise support the liberal theology in the Church. Traditionalism and liberalism do not depend upon the Latin Mass.

Fr. Serafino Lanzetta and Roberto dei Mattei are not proclaiming the Faith on Traditionis Custode and Vatican Council II and remain politically correct with the Left. Even Corrado Gnerre, a good apologist, does not interpet Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and tell the Franciscans of the Immaculate that they could do the same.

Karl Rahner, Joseph Ratzinger, Yves Congar, John Courtney Murray, Hans Kung and Richard Cushing interpreted Vatican Council II with the red right hand side irrational column. While Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall interpret Lumen Gentium 14 (baptism of desire) with the rational blue left hand side column and so their conclusion is traditional and non schismatic.

Wikipedia and the secular media must also choose the blue left hand side rational column to interpret Magisterial Documents in the Catholic Church. Now their narrative on Traditionis Custode and Vatican Council II is based upon the irrational red right hand side column.

We must know that the Nouvelle Theologique of Vatican Council II was not created by the Dominican Reginald Garangou Langride. It was created by some of the Council Fathers (1965) from the Fake Premise of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.

That Letter rejected the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and postulated unknown cases of the  baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as being known and objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.So EENS was made obsolete. The New Theology was outside the Church there is salvation.

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Traditionalists with their banners and placards outside the Nuncio’s office in Paris, could also say, ‘Pope Francis please interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise and come back to Catholic Tradition’. Press conferences could also bring out the appeal.-Lionel Andrades