Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Liturgical Abuse : Vatican Curia

'...give him a copy of the Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum, which obviously they would not and have never read, along with the Motu Propio Summorum Pontificum:
Here is what Redemptionis Sacramentum, advises us in the event we witness a liturgical abuse:

6. Complaints Regarding Abuses in Liturgical Matters

[183.] In an altogether particular manner, let everyone do all that is in their power to ensure that the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist will be protected from any and every irreverence or distortion and that all abuses be thoroughly corrected. This is a most serious duty incumbent upon each and every one, and all are bound to carry it out without any favouritism.

[184.] Any Catholic, whether Priest or Deacon or lay member of Christ’s faithful, has the right to lodge a complaint regarding a liturgical abuse to the diocesan Bishop or the competent Ordinary equivalent to him in law, or to the Apostolic See on account of the primacy of the Roman Pontiff.[290] It is fitting, however, insofar as possible, that the report or complaint be submitted first to the diocesan Bishop. This is naturally to be done in truth and charity. –from the website The Pinoy Catholic
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Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone were in communication with Sister Lucia at Fatima and had an important role in our understanding of the Third Secret of Fatima.

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican Secretary of State said Jews do not have to convert in the present times in a Letter to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel. This contradicts Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II. Cardinal Bertone also had called the attention of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel to a front page article in the L'Osservatore Romano written by Cardinal Walter Kaspar in which he stated Jews do not have to convert in the present time.The front page article (April 10, 2008) in the L’Osservatore Romano was written by Cardinal Walter Kaspar. It was presented to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel by Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican Secretary of State. It was approved by the Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI.The article said that Vatican Council II indicated that non Catholics can be saved. So Cardinal Kaspar concluded that Jews do not have to convert in the present times.Cardinal Bertone and Cardinal Kaspar offer Mass as usual with no public clarification.

Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco, President of the Italian Catholic Bishops Conference (CEI) on Sept 22, 2009 before two Jewish rabbis gave into pressure by them and issued a CEI directive which said that Jews do not have to convert in the present times. The Cardinal stated that he had the support of the Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Bertone and the Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI. There has been no contradiction from the Vatican. Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II which says all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation. He offers Mass as usual.

Cardinal William Levada, Prefect of the Congregation for Doctrine and Faith, Vatican never issued a clarification on Sept 22, 2009 when Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco quoted Cardinal Bertone saying that the Revised Good Friday Prayer was not for the conversion of the Jews and Jews do not have to convert.

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J, Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican assumes invincible ignorance and being saved with a good conscience (LG 16) are explicitly known exceptions to AG 7, Vatican Council II. He says that the Church no more teaches an ecclesiocentric ecclesiology or the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since Pope Pius XII in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 corrected Fr. Leonard Feeney. (Christianity and the World Religions 1997, ITC). If Pope Pius XIII or the cardinals believed that the baptism of desire was an explicit exception to the dogma, then they obviously made an objective, factual error. The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 however, Cardinal Ladaria does not admit, supported Fr. Leonard Feeney in the first paragraphs. It refers to ‘the dogma’, ‘the infallible teaching’. The text of the dogma , addressed to the Archbishop of Boston, indicates all Jews in Boston, and the rest of he world, need to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid the pains of Hell.Cardinal Ladaria offers Mass normally.

Cardinal Kurt Koch, President of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity and relations with the Jews, rejects the SSPX traditional position on Judaism and ecumenism. On May 16 at the Angelicum he indicated that Jews do not have to convert in the present time. He also contradicts AG 7 which indicates all people, Orthodox Christians and Protestants too, need Catholic Faith for salvation. He offers Mass as usual.

Pope Benedict XVI in Light of the World (Ignatius p.107) has repeated that Jews do not have to convert in the present times. This is contrary to Vatican Council II, the Nicene Creed (‘I believe in one baptism…), the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Bible (John 3:5, Mk.16:16 etc).
In his ‘one channel’ of salvation (p.107) Pope Benedict XVI suggests those who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church. This is fine. However he is implying every one does not have to convert into the Church for salvation. Since he assumes that those saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) are know to us and so are exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and to AG 7, Vatican Council II.

1. Pope Benedict XVI approved the article written on the front page of the L’Osservatore Romano by Cardinal Kaspar and sent to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel. The message was Jews do not have to convert in the present times. Also it was alleged that this was taught in Vatican Council II.

2. Pope Benedict approved the meeting of Cardinal Bagnasco with the two Rabbis when Bagnasco issued a directive of the Conference of Catholic Bishops saying that Jews do not have to convert in the present times. Bagnasco claimed that it had the support of the Pope.

3. The pope approved Cardinal Bertone’s claim to the Chief Rabbinate through a Letter, public, that we Catholics had a belief in Jesus. (That was about all). And that the Chief Rabbinate had read the article by Cardinal Kaspar which said Jews do not have to convert in the present times.

The pope and his Curia have accepted these heretical positions under pressure from Talmud Jews. Newspapers have reported threats from the Chief Rabbinate of Israel.Now they are trying to thrust it upon the SSPX bishops with threats of excommunication. They themelf in reality do not accept Vatican Council II.Bishop Richard Williamson and the other SSPX bishops are in agreement with AG 7, Vatican Council II on ecumenism, Judaism and other religions. They only ‘say’ they reject Vatican Council II when in reality their traditional Catholic values are those of Vatican Council II. They do reject the Koch-Ladaria version of Vatican Council II which is a break from tradition with their explicitly known invincible ignorance, a good conscience etc.

To deny the Bible (John 3:5, Mk.16:16), the Nicene Creed ('I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin'),Vatican Council II (AG 7), Dominus Iesus 20 etc is a grave sin. A Catholic priest, bishop, cardinal or pope needs to issue a clarification to remove the scandal and to personally receive absolution in the Confessional when they know about this sin.Until then, according to Canon Law and Ecclesia di Eucarestia  they are not to offer Holy Mass or receive the Eucharist.
-Lionel Andrades

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Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.

Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.-Lumen Gentium 16

Thursday, May 17, 2012
CARDINAL KOCH MOUTHS HERESY AT THE ANGELICUM UNIVERSITY: THROWS AWAY VATICAN COUNCIL II, BIBLE AND DOGMA

Pope Benedict XVI has rejected Vatican Council II (AG 7) in Light of the World p.107: Also Cardinals Bertone, Bagnasco, Koch and Ladaria. Yet three SSPX bishops could be excommunicated for only ‘saying’ they reject the Council

Wednesday, May 16, 2012
CONFUSED CDF MEETS TODAY

Friday, April 6, 2012
ANIVERSARY OF THE DENIAL OF THE FAITH BY THE MAGISTERIUM ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/aniversary-of-denial-of-faith-by.html#links
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Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.- Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.


Nostra Aetate does not contradict Ad Gentes 7
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/05/nostra-aetate-does-not-contradict-ad.html#links

CARDINAL REJECTS THE INFALLIBILITY OF THE POPE AND ACCUSES THE SSPX


False accusatons against the Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) are being made by Cardinal Walter Brandmuller. He rejects the infalllibility of the popes ex cathedra, when he rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He then accuses the SSPX of rejecting the infalliblity of the popes and Vatican Council I.

On the issue of religious liberty and other religions, the cardinal says Vatican Council II was a ‘developmnent of doctrine’ In other words the ex cathedra dogma said every one needs to convert into the Church for salvation but Vatican Council II, for the cardinal, says everyone does not have to.This would mean Vatican Council II (LG 16) contradicts itself (AG 7) and also the thrice defined dogma.

The text of Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 is included in the Council of Trent.Pope Pius XI referred to  ‘the dogma’ the ‘infalllible teaching’.(Letter of the Holy Office 1949).For the cardinal however defined dogmas ‘develop’.

German Cardinal Walter Brandmuller and Italian Archbishop Agostino Marchetto spoke to reporters May 21 after presenting a book they wrote with Father Nicola Bux, "Pope Benedict XVI's Keys for Interpreting Vatican II"  according to the Catholic News Service.

Strangely enough, the two most controversial documents" for the SSPX -- those on religious freedom and on relations with non-Christians -- "do not have a binding doctrinal content, so one can dialogue about them," the cardinal said.

Cardinal Brandmuller said that it must be kept in mind is the differing degree of acceptance and obedience Catholics owe to different types of church teaching, which range from absolutely embracing the teaching in the creed to accepting the principles of Catholic social teaching and trying to put them into practice in a variety of social and political situations, said the cardinal, who is the former president of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences.

The cardinal says the SSPX rejects the papal infallibility teaching of the First Vatican Council when it is really the Vatican Curia who assumes that the baptism of desire etc are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so also a negation of papal infallibility.They mean the pope was wrong for saying ex cathedra every one needs to convert into the Church when there are exceptions of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance for them.-Lionel Andrades

Regarding SSPX, Vatican officials discuss levels of church teaching May-21-2012

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202076.htm

We know there still is a problem. The SSPX like the Vatican assumes that there are exceptions of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance

There still is a problem. The SSPX bishops and many priests like their liberal counterparts and the Vatican Curia still assume that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

This is what I wanted to say to Bro. Anthony TOSF in a comment on the website Witness for Church and Pope .

The SSPX must realize that we do not know any case on earth of a non Catholic saved in invincible ignorance etc. Bro. Anthony realizes this.

So if there is any cardinal or bishop who makes this claim he is wrong.If the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 assumed that the baptism of desire etc are defacto, explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus then the Letter was wrong. I say IF, since the Letter mentioned ‘the dogma’ and the text of the dogma indicates all need to convert into the Church and there are no known exceptions.

If Pope Benedict XVI in Light of the World (p.105) assumes that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are exceptions then he is also wrong. This is an objective, factual error.

When the SSPX admits this problem in public it will mean that there is a now a new interpretation of Vatican Council II. Otherwise there is only heresy.Since the Nicene Creed says ‘I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin’ and the SSPX and the Vatican Curia says there is not one baptism but three.The dogma says every one needs to enter the Church the SSPX says yes, except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.

We still have a problem.
-Lionel Andrades