The SSPX interprets Vatican Council II and EENS with irrational Cushingism and not rational Feeneyism : The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican does the same

 

We can interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus with Feeneyism or Cushingism and the conclusion is different.

Feeneyism says invisible cases are invisible.

Cushingism says invisible cases are visible.

The St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire interprets Vatican Council II, the baptism of desire (BOD), being  saved in invincible ignorance (I.I) and the baptism of blood (BOB) with Feeneyism (invisible cases of LG 14, LG 16 etc are invisible for them). 

The SSPX and the sedevacantists interpret Vatican Council II and the BOD. I.I and BOB with Cushingism (invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 16 etc are physically visible. They are examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.  They are practical exceptions for EENS etc).

Cushingism changes the interpretation of the Creeds, the Catechisms and the dogma EENS. It is heretical and schismatic. It produces a new theology which says outside the Church there is known salvation in the present times. 

-Lionel Andrades

 APRIL 6, 2023

Irrespective of what the SSPX labels Feeneyism Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and it is in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions 

  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-sspx-website-has-to-be-corrected-on.html

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Leonard Edward Feeney (February 18, 1897 – January 30, 1978) was an American Jesuit priest, poet, lyricist, and essayist.

He articulated a strict interpretation of the Roman Catholic doctrine extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation"). He took the position that baptism of blood and baptism of desire are unavailing and that therefore no non-Catholics will be saved - Wikipedia 

unavailing : he meant there were no known and visible cases of the baptism of desire to contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

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Wikipedia

Feeneyism is a Christian doctrine, associated with Leonard Feeney, which advocates an interpretation of the dogma extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation") which is that only Catholics can go to heaven and that only those baptised with water can go to heaven. Feeneyism opposes the doctrines of baptism of desire and baptism of blood as well as the view that non-Catholics can go to heaven.

Feeneyism is considered a heresy by the Catholic Church; some Catholics refer to Feeneyism as the Boston heresy.

Lionel Andrades

Feeneyism is a Catholic doctrine, associated with Leonard Feeney and the Fourth Lateran Council (12159 and the Council of Florence (1442) which defined extra ecclesiam nulla salus as a dogma of the Catholic Church.  These Councils advocate an interpretation of the dogma extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation") which is that only Catholics can go to heaven and that only those baptised with water can go to heaven. If a non Catholic goes to Heaven he will be a Catholic there and not a non Catholic.

Feeneyism does not oppose the doctrines of baptism of desire and baptism of blood but considres them specualtive and hypothetical and known only to God, if they exist . So they do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , which says that in Heaven there are only Catholics.

Feeneyism is considered a heresy by the the Jewish  Left and their supporters in the Catholic Church who refer to to Feeneyism as the Boston heresy. Other Catholics refer to the Boston Heresy as the heresy of Pope Pius XII, Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits. They assumed unknown and invisible cases of the baptism of desire etc were visible and known exceptions for EENS according the the Church Councils in the Middle Ages.-L.ionel  Andrades

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Condemnation of Feeneyism[edit]

In a 1949 letter to Cardinal Cushing, Archbishop of Boston, the Holy Office condemned Feeney's teaching that only those formally baptized in the Catholic Church can be saved. The Holy Office affirmed that those baptized by their desire can be saved. This letter was sent by Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani to Cardinal Cushing. This letter stated among other things:^[9][10]

The same in its own degree must be asserted of the Church, in as far as She is the general help to salvation. Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to Her by desire and longing. However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God. These things are clearly taught in that dogmatic letter which was issued by the Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, on June 29, 1943, On the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ (AAS, Vol. 35, an. 1943, p. 193 ff.). For in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and those who are united to the Church only by desire.

— Letter of the Holy Office 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeneyism

 Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member

The dogma EENS of the Church Councils says that one needs to be a member of the Cathollic Church for salvation and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is here saying in this Lettter that one does not have to be a member. This is heresy. It is also schism with the Magisterium over the centuries.

The Letter also confuses invisible cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I as visible exceptions for the strict interpetation of EENS, of the Church Councils and Fr. Leonard Feeney. This is irrational. It is also unethical and dishonest. This is a scandal.- Lionel Andrades

 

 

Irrespective of what the SSPX labels Feeneyism Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and it is in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions

 

The SSPX website has to be corrected on many issues in which a factual error has been made.In any official statement they will have to acknowledge that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to only hypothetical cases.

1.In their interpretation of Vatican Council II, LG 8, 14, 16 etc are not only hypothetical cases. They are objective exceptions for the dogma  extra ecclesiam nulla salus, according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215). They are visible cases. In this way there is a rupture with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. If they were invisible cases they would not contradict the Council of Florence, Cantate Domino(1442) for the SSPX.

2.Their concept of Feeneyism on their website, is based upon the objective error in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre made a mistake when he accepted the 1949 LOHO and then also interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally.

The SSPX Angelus Press has published many books on Vatican Council II. They are all interpreted with the irrational( invisible people are visible) and not rational( invisible people are invisible, LG 16 refers to an invisible case in 1949) premise.

This includes the books of Archbishop Lefebvre, like Against the Heresies etc. -Lionel Andrades

https://sspx.org/en/about-feeneyites

https://sspx.org/en/errors-feeneyites

https://sspxpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Feeneyism.pdf

St.Maximillian Kolbe as an editor held the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and not that of Bradley Eli and Christine Niles

 

St.Maximiilian  Kolbe was an editor for a magazine which sold in Poland in overwhelming numbers. The people needed the Faith and he fed them. Church Militant TV needs to do the same. The saint in the 1930s held the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and not that of Bradley Eli and Christine Niles.

Michael Voris must follow St.Maximillian Kolbe  so that CMTV’s viewers may grow.

Catholics must see that CMTV  is holding the standard while the ship is being rocked by various forces. 

There are control-labels  like Anti Semitism etc  which now prevent Michael  from speaking the truth about the Faith, especially the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which we now know is not contradicted by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally.

Vatican Council II interpreted rationally does not contradict the Fourth Lateran Concia (1215) on EENS.This is the Catholic Faith and it must be proclaimed whatever the cost.This was the Faith of St. Maximillian Kolbe before the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office was issued.

The priority must be to proclaim the Faith and not provide employment and sustain careers.

If the forces against CMTV are too strong in the present times, don't let the ship sink without shouting the Faith- even like a last gasp. .Shout it from the house tops. Let it be a shreik. 

Church Militant TV has not done this over the years. Their approach was to take the middle road and please the liberals and the important people, who allowed them to stay as a media.

CMTV must stand - at least for some time - like a martyr who knows he is going to die- and this is his last shout, his last chance to proclaim the Faith. What CMTV has not proclaimed all these years is : salvation in Jesus in the Catholic Church alone and this is  supported by Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Correct the CMTV position on Vatican Council II and go down like the Vendees.

Catholic viewers and non viewers will know that Michael Voris represents them.Others of course will hate CMTV because they know  that they have to give up a career, a privelege or a life.

But this was also the choice before St. Maximillian Kolbe too.As an editor he did not water down the truth on salvation to please any particular group of people.

CMTV must do the same at this hour, which could be the Final Hour, the end times, for people in general. - Lionel Andrades

APRIL 5, 2023

Michael Voris, Bradley Eli and Christine Niles have theologically not made an impact in the Church, they somehow ‘have not connected’, they are ‘not coherent’. They fall back on the liberal theology of Pope Benedict and call it ‘magisterial’. They confuse what is invisible as being visible and then conclude that there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/michael-voris-bradley-eli-and-christine.html

SALVATION AND THE CHURCH

by Bradley Eli 

LUKE 13:23: 'LORD, ARE THEY FEW THAT ARE SAVED?'

The Catholic Church infallibly teaches the truth that "Outside the Church, there is no salvation." The Church isn't saying here that only Catholics go to Heaven but that all graces needed for salvation originate in Christ and pass through His Mystical Body, the Church.

Lionel: The Catholic Church is saying here that there are only Catholics in Heaven. If there are non Catholics who are going to Heaven, in Heaven they will only be Catholic. 

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Section 846 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms that this dogma does mean "All salvation comes from Christ the head through the Church, which is His body."

Lionel: Yes all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church, which is His Body and all need to enter the Catholic Church with faith and the baptism of water for salvaton ( Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14, Catechism of the Catholic Church 845, 846, Fourth Lateran Council (1215) etc).

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Those unable to know this truth have what's called invincible ignorance. A little Jewish girl who dies at the age of 6 might be such a person.

Lionel : Yes there could be someone in invincible ignorance and these cases would only be known to God. For us humans they are theoretical and speculative cases. They are invisible in our reality. So they are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Council of Florence 1442).

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Of these, Pope Pius IX in his 1863 encyclical, Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, wrote:

It is known to Us and to you that they who labor in invincible ignorance of our most holy religion and who, zealously keeping the natural law and its precepts engraved in the hearts of all by God, and being ready to obey God, live an honest and upright life, can, by the operating power of divine light and grace, attain eternal life, since God ... will by no means suffer anyone to be punished with eternal torment who has not the guilt of deliberate sin.

Lionel: Yes and we cannot project this case of invincible ignorance as an exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). It was known to Pope Pius IX that these are theoretical cases and not objective exceptions for the dogma EENS.That these are hypothetical cases is common sense. It was known through the centuries.

 It was only in 1949 in the Letter of the Holy Office (CDF) that a mistake was made. It was assumed that invincible ignorance was a visible case.Bradley Eli makes this mistake. This is the common  formation- error in the seminaries and universities all over the world.

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As cited in Denzinger §1677, Pius IX adds:

But, the Catholic dogma that no one can be saved outside the Catholic Church is well known; and also that those who are obstinate toward the authority and definitions of the same Church, and who persistently separate themselves from the unity of the Church, and from the Roman Pontiff, the successor of Peter, to whom "the guardianship of the vine has been entrusted by the Savior," cannot obtain eternal salvation.

Lionel : The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office was placed in the Denzinger by the liberals. It was put there along with its objective mistake.

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Vatican II repeats this admonition in Lumen Gentium §14: "Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved. ... Not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged."

Lionel :  Yes whoever knows and does not enter is oriented to Hell. But it does not mean that we know of any one in particular who will go to Heaven outside the Church, with invincible ignorance. All people in general need Catholic faith and the baptism of water for salvation (AG 7). All. Those who know and know who do not know need to accept Jesus in only the Catholic Church for salvation ( to avoid Hell ).

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The SSPX is still not issuing an official statement on their error on Vatican Council II.

 

The SSPX is still not issuing an official statement on their error on Vatican Council II. They must also acknowledge that they were in error with the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston. They keep ignoring what I write. This is a major error. It means going back to Tradition and the Latin Mass and correcting the mistake made by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the popes and the cardinals. - Lionel Andrades

Tradition does not change : SSPX secure

 

Tradition does not change : SSPX secure

All the bishops and priests of the SSPX made a mistake. All the books and magazines of the community in general are in error it is confirmed.But because the SSPX follow Traditon they are safe. Tradition does not change.  - Lionel Andrades

Father Federico Montani the SSPX priest from Albano does not affirm the Catholic Faith rationally and he tells the faithful at Mass to also not to do so.

 

Father Federico Montani the SSPX priest from Albano will come on Sunday morning after Easter to offer the Latin Mass at the SSPX St. Catherine of Siena chapel in Rome. He will not affirm the Catholic Faith rationally and he tells the faithful at Mass to also not to do so. These are the controversial points, he will not affirm.

1. The Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). This Council did not mention any exceptions for the dogma EENS.The SSPX priest must endorse this Council.

2. LG 8,14 and 16,UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are always only hypothetical cases in 1965-2023.They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church. They are not practical exceptions for EENS.The SSPX priest must accept LG 8 etc as being only hypothetical cases.

3. There are no objective cases of people saved with the baptism of desire (BOD) or in invincible ignorance(I.I) in our reality. We cannot meet or see someone saved with the BOD and in I.I.

So BOD and I.I are not practical exceptions for EENS in 1949-2023.The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney made an objective mistake.The SSPX priest must clarify his position on this point.

-Lionel Andrades

APRIL 4, 2023

The SSPX priest in Rome is afraid to affirm the Catholic Faith in public and he is telling the faithful to also not proclaim it : impediment for offering Holy Mass

 

The SSPX priest is afraid to affirm the Catholic Faith in public and he is telling the faithful also to not proclaim it. He is afraid to endorse the following three points.

 

1.     The Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442) defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no exceptions. It has to be accepted. It is a de fide teaching of the Catholic Church.

2.      Lumen Gentium 8, 14 and 16, Nostra Aetate 2, Gaudium et Specs 22, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, etc refer to invisible cases in 1965-2023. So they do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

3.     The baptism of desire, being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of blood, all without the baptism of water, are physically invisible cases in 1949-2023. So they are not practical exceptions for the dogma EENS. They are not exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.

It is the same for the priests in the main line Church where Mass is offered in Italian. They too need to affirm these three points otherwise they change the interpretation of the Creeds etc. This is an impediment of offering Mass in the vernacular or in Latin.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-sspx-priest-in-rome-is-afraid-to.html

FEBRUARY 27, 2023

SSPX priest is unethical on Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/02/sspx-priest-is-unethical-on-vatican.html