Monday, March 14, 2016

FIUV representing the ancient liturgy could interpret Vatican Council with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism

The English Bishops, the Prayer for the Jews, and bad PR

An image from the Mass of the feast of St Gregory the Great, who threatened
excommunication for anyone attempting to force Jews to convert to Christianity.

The prayers mentioned on the LMS Chairman blog 1refer to the Jews needing to accept Jesus Christ as the Saviour according to the teachings of the  Catholic Church, in the Catholic Church  and not to Cristianity in general . It is not a reference to other Christian communities and churches.Since this prayer is said in the Catholic Church and Catholics affirm the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation (extra ecclesiam nulla salus).Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism. It is referring to Catholic Faith and not faith in Jesus according to the Lutherans, Jehovah's Witnesses etc.
This should be the position of the FIUV. Since this is affirming the traditional dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and it is also affirming Vatican Council II in agreement with the dogma EENS.This could be done by assuming that the  baptism of desire or blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, refer to invisible and not visible cases. Similarly being saved in imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3), elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8), seeds of the Word (LG 8) and a ray of that Truth (NA 2) all refer to hypothetical cases. This is common sense. We cannot know of any explicit exception to EENS and neither does Vatican Council II mention any.The Council does not mention any known exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS( unless there is a mix up between what is visible and invisible).
 So in Vatican Council II  hypothetical cases are not objective exceptions to the traditional ecclesiology on exclusivist salvation in the Catholic Church and other religions being false paths to salvation.The ecumenism of Vatican Council II is also one of return ( 'all' need 'faith', Catholic Faith).This is interpreting Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS with Feeneyism ( there are no known exceptions, past or present to the centuries old interpretation of EENS). It is a rejection of the theology of Cushingism ( there are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of EENS and they include the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, all without the baptism of water).
This is the theology of the Traditional Latin Mass. The ancient Mass was offered by Catholics who affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and did not consider the baptism of desire as relevant or an exception to EENS.How could it be an exception or relevant to EENS when we humans cannot know or see any such case in our reality?
 Yet this is not the theology of the Bishops Conferences in England and Wales or in Germany. They interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism.So Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the dogma EENS.They assume we can physically see or know people saved without the baptism of water. Upon this irrationality they have created a new theology which is not the theology associated with the ancient liturgy.
 Archbishop Kevin McDonald, Chairman of the Bishops Committee for Catholic Jewish Relations, Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales, interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism.If he chose Feeneyism  the Council  would be saying 'all' Jews need 'faith and baptism' for salvation. They do not have it.So according to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) they are all oriented to Hell with no known exceptions.Vatican Council II would be in agreement with the traditional ecclesiology based on the centuries old interpretation of EENS. However the English bishops, like the popes, do not use Feeneyism as a theology and so there is a hermeneutic of rupture with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc.
Archbishop McDonald refers to Nostra Aetate.2 There is nothing in Nostra Aetate to contradict the 'rigorist' interpretation of EENS. Instead Nostra Aetete 4 says Catholics are the new people of God. Catholics are the new Chosen People.
Since Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) says all need faith and baptism and NA says the Church is the new people of God, Jews need to formally convert into the Catholic Church ( with faith and baptism) to avoid the fires of Hell.So there is the Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews on Good Friday.
The FIUV representing the ancient liturgy should have chosen to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism and not Cushingism. In this way the appeal to the Jews would not be based on some vague Christology but on an exclusivist ecclesiology in the Catholic Church.This was the ecclesiology of the saints Robert Bellarmine, Francis Xavier, Maximillian Kolbe...
This is important 'for  clarity and consistency in Catholic Church teachings'.It means acknowledging that the present magisterium which promotes irrational Cushingism is a break with the pre Council of Trent magisterium which was Feeneyite.
How can the FIUV expect rank and file Catholics to accept the irrationality of the English bishops interpretation of Vatican Council II with reference to the Jews ?
-Lionel Andrades

A. Let Israel recognise in you the Messiah it has longed for; fill all men with the knowledge of your glory.

B. Let us pray also for the Jews: that our God and Lord may be pleased to shine the light of his face over them; that they too may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord as the Redeemer of all.

C. Let us pray also for the Jews: that Almighty God may remove the veil from their hearts so that they too may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord.
D. Christ, Son of David, fulfilment of the prophecies, may the Jewish people accept you as their awaited Deliverer [Messiah].

E. Let us also pray for the Jews: That our God and Lord may illuminate their hearts, that they may acknowledge Jesus Christ the Saviour of all men .                                                                                                                                                                                        


A note on the Bishops’ Conference resolution on the Good Friday Prayer for the Jews


In 1970, the Prayer for the Jews in the liturgy of Good Friday was revised so as to reflect and express the teaching on Judaism contained in the Vatican II document Nostra Aetate.
In particular it removed offensive references to the Jews and did not pray for the conversion of the Jews. This was in light of the fact that Nostra Aetate acknowledged the unique spiritual bond between Christians and Jews since it was the Jews who first heard the Word of God.
The 1970 Prayer, which is now used throughout the Church, is basically a prayer that the Jewish people would continue to grow in the love of God’s name and in faithfulness of his Covenant, a Covenant which - as St John Paul II made clear in 1980 - has not been revoked. By contrast the Prayer produced in 2008 for use in the Extraordinary Form of the liturgy reverted to being a prayer for the conversion of Jews to Christianity.
This caused great upset and confusion in the Jewish community since the Church seemed to be giving inconsistent messages.
The Bishops of England and Wales have now added their voice to that of German Bishops who have asked for the Prayer in the Extraordinary Form to be changed. Such a change would be important both for giving clarity and consistency to Catholic teaching and for helping to progress Catholic-Jewish dialogue.
Archbishop Kevin McDonald
Chairman of the Bishops’ Committee for Catholic-Jewish Relations