Friday, May 12, 2017

Vaticano-FSSPX riconciliazione fallisce ancora una volta

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Vaticano-FSSPX riconciliazione fallisce ancora una volta.C'è una rottura nella riconciliazione del Vaticano-Fraternità San Pio X.Ancora una volta una lobby ha impedito.
Vescovo Bernard Fellay ha indicato che c'era un accordo sul prelatura personale senza fare domande.Un accordo con nessun condizioni.
Il tempo per accordo doveva essere fatta.Pensato che poteva essere 13 maggio o una data successiva.Arcivescovo  Guido Pozzo ha confermato che tutto andava bene.
Ora è tutto finito.
La Fraternità San Pio X(SSPX) ha ancora una volta di firmare un preambolo dottrinale riconosceranno il Concilio Vaticano II (Cushingite).Concilio Vaticano II (Cushingite) è una rottura con Tradizione.Questa rottura con la tradizione sarà implicitamente (o esplicitamente) accettate dal vescovo Fellay, se lui firma il documento.
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La stessa cosa succede durante il pontificato di Papa Benedict XVI.E 'stato anche detto in quello tempo che il Concilio Vaticano II non sarebbe una problema.Potevano semplicemente entrare nella Chiesa con riconoscimento canonico e un sacco di buona volontà.Ma prima della fase finale  è stato detto che la Fraternita San Pio X hanno dovuto accettare il Concilio Vaticano II II (Cushingite).
Anche, non c'era alcun commento da parte del Vaticano sul SSPX Capitolo Generale Dichiarazione 2012 sul dottrina .Il Capitolo Generale E affermato extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), senza la possibilità di salvezza al di fuori della Chiesa.Questa era Feeneyismo.E 'stato EENS in accordo con i missionari di 16 ° secolo.Questa era la dottrina di Lefebvristi che è stata respinta dal magistero liberale.
Ora, se il Vescovo Bernard Fellay firma il preambolo dottrinale, avrà affermare che  il Concilio Vaticano II- LG 16 LG 8, UR 3 NA 2 ecc - sono esempi di salvezza al di fuori della Chiesa.Il suo messaggio sarà che ci sia la possibilità di salvezza nota al di fuori della Chiesa.Questo è la Nuova Teologia.E sarebbe in contraddizione con il dogma fuori della Chiesa Cattolica non c'e salvezza.Sarebbe in contraddizione con la dichiarazione dottrinale della Capitolo Generale 2012.
Signifca che lui acceta il Concilio Vaticano II (Cushingite) come una rottura con la Tradizione.Lui anche sarebbe rifiutando l'alternativa; l'alternativa Concilio Vaticano II,che  è il Concilio Vaticano II (Feeneyite).E 'in armonia con il Sillabo di Errori di Pio IX  e il passato ecclesiologia della Chiesa.
Questa opzione ancora c'e per il Vescovo Fellay.Lui può scegliere di affermare il Concilio Vaticano II, ma non come interpretato dal cardinale Ratzinger / Papa Benedetto XVI, ma, come 'il laico in Roma'.In  questo modo può avanzare la riconciliazione se il Vaticano e le conferenze episcopali accettare il Concilio Vaticano II (Feeneyite).
La Fraternità San Pio X deve affermare il Concilio Vaticano II (Feeneyite) si può chiamare il Concilio Vaticano II, Pozzo, Lefebvre o qualsiasi altro nome. Possono simile chiamare il Concilio Vaticano II (Cushingite) con qualsiasi nome (Ratzinger, Marx o Kasper).Ci sono molti blog post sul Internet sul Feeneyismo e Cushingismo e argomenti correlati.
Con il Concilio Vaticano II (Feeneyite) LG 16, LG 8 ecc non saranno esempi di salvezza al di fuori della Chiesa.Non contraddire il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus perche loro sono  un riferimento ai casi invisibili e ipotetici e le persone non concreto. Solo le persone reale, conosciuto possono essere eccezioni allo dogma EENS.'Zero casi di qualcosa  non sono eccezioni allo dogma EENS', dice l'apologeta degli Stati Uniti, John Martignoni, che ha un programma sul EWTN.Don Stefano Visintin OSB, il Vice Rettore e passato Decano di Teologia dell'Università di Sant'Anselmo, e in accordo con Martignoni.
Con zero eccezioni all'EENS nel Concilio Vaticano II (Feeneyite o Pozzo / Lefebvre) ci sarà l'armonia con il dogma EENS (Feeneyite) e la vecchia ecclesiologia della Chiesa e anche il Sillabo di Pio IX sull'ecumenismo, non c'e  salvezza per i non cristiani, ecclesiologia passato,traditizionale teologia sul missione, non separazione fra Chiesa e Stato ecc.
La Fraternità Sacerdotale San Pio X (SSPX) incontrerà almeno il requisito dottrinale di Papa Benedetto quando affermando il Concilio Vaticano II con l'ermeneutico della continuità (Concilio Vaticano II, Pozzo / Lefebvre) e non un ermeneutico di rottura (con il Concilio Vaticano II, Cushingite / Ratzinger, Marx, Kasper).
Inoltre impedirà una divisione interna nella SSPX. Poiché la Tradizione è affermata, in particolare, l'ecclesiocentrismo esclusivista del passato, mentre la dichiarazione del Capitolo Generale Dichiarazione 2012 non viene contraddetta. Le conferenze episcopale negli Stati Uniti, U.K, Germania, ovviamente, possono andare nello scisma o semplicemente ribellarsi.
Il SSPX, tuttavia, risponderà all'obbligo di accettare il Concilio Vaticano II.-Lionel Andrades


May 12, 2017





 
 
 

SSPX-Vatican reconciliation fails once again

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There is a breakdown in the SSPX-Vatican reconciliation.Once again a lobby has derailed it.
Bishop Bernard Fellay announced that there was an agreement on a personal prelature with no questions asked.With no conditions.The date had to be announced.Some thought it could be May 13 or a later date.Archbishop Guido Pozzo confirmed all was well.
Now that's all ended.
The SSPX once again has to sign a doctrinal preamble  which will recognize Vatican Council II (Cushingite).Vatican Council II (Cushingite) is a break with  Tradition.This rupture with Tradition will be implicitly( or explicitly) accepted by Bishop Fellay, if he signs the document.
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The same thing happened during the pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI.
It was agreed at that time too that Vatican Council II would not be an issue.They could simply come into the Church with canonical status and plenty of goodwill.Then before the final step was taken the SSPX was told that they had to accept Vatican Council II ( Cushingite). Also there was no comment from the Vatican  on the SSPX General Chapter Doctrinal Statement 2012  which affirmed extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), with no possibility of salvation outside the Church.This was Feeneyism.It was EENS according to the 16th century missionaries.This was SSPX doctrine that was brushed aside by the liberal magisterium.
Now if Bishop Fellay signs the doctrinal preamble, he will affirm a Vatican Council II in which LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc  are examples of salvation outside the Church.So there is the possibility of known salvation outside the Church.This is the New Theology.It would contradict the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.It would also contradict the doctrinal statement of the SSPX General Chapter.It means that he accepts  Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) as a rupture with Tradition. He would also be rejecting the alternative, the alternative Vatican Council II,it is Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).It is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors and the past ecclesiology of the Church.
This option is still there for Bishop Fellay.He can choose to affirm Vatican Council II  but not as interpreted by Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict but like  'the layman in Rome'.In this way the reconciliation can advance if the Vatican and the bishops conferences accept Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).
The SSPX must affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which they  can call Vatican Council II, Pozzo,Lefebvre or any other name. They can similarly call Vatican Council II( Cushingite) by any other name( Ratzinger, Marx or Kasper).There are now a few hundred reports on line on Vatican Council II Feeneyism and Cushingism etc.
With Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) LG 16, LG 8 etc will not be examples of salvation outside the Church.They will not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since they will refer to invisible and hypothetical cases and not concrete people. Only concrete people can be exceptions to the dogma EENS.'Zero cases of something are not exceptions to the dogma EENS' says the U.S apologist John Martignoni, who has a program on EWTN.Fr.Stefano Visintin osb, the Vice Rector and former Dean of Theology of the  University of St. Anselm Rome agrees with him.
With zero exceptions to EENS in Vatican Council II( Feeneyite or Pozzo/Lefebvre) there will be harmony with the dogma EENS( Feeneyite) and the old ecclesiology of the Church and also the Syllabus of Errors on ecumenism, no salvation for non Christians, exclusivist ecclesiology on Mission,non separation of Church and state etc.
The SSPX will meet at least Pope Benedict's doctrinal requirement  that they affirm Vatican Council II with the hermeneutic of continuity(Vatican Council II,Pozzo/Lefebvre) and not a hermeneutic of rupture( with Vatican Council II,Cushingite/Ratzinger,Marx,Kasper).
It will also prevent an internal division in the SSPX.Since Tradition is being affirmed, in particular, the exclusivist ecclesiocentrism of the past while the General Chapter Statement is not being contradicted.
The episcopical conferences in the USA, U.K, Germany, of course, may go into schism or simply rebel.
The SSPX however, will be meeting the requirement to accept Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades




 MAY 12, 2017


Ecclesia Dei ask the Bishops Conferences to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/ecclesia-dei-ask-bishops-conferences-to.html

Lepanto Institute, CMTV , NCR interpret the Nicene Creed with Cushingism and this is first class heresy shared with Vatican cardinals and the popes

Dissident Rag Calls Church Militant ‘Not Authentically Catholic’

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by Trey Elmore  •  ChurchMilitant.com  •  May 11, 2017                                    

National Catholic Reporter has been asked twice to drop the word "Catholic" from its name

Sean Michael Winters, a blogger and columnist with notorious liberal outlet National Catholic Reporter (NCR), published a scathing follow-up on The Atlantic documentary piece published on this apostolate on May 9.
Lionel: He did not say that Church Militant TV(CMTV) like the National Catholic Reporter interprets Vatican Council II with irrational and heretical Cushingism instead of traditional and rational Feeneyism.Both of them are using the New Theology which is the basis for liberalism and modernism in the Church.
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In the piece, Winters spouts a barrage of ad hominem attacks about Michael Voris, including that Voris is "viciously extreme and extremely vicious" and that Voris is shown "spouting gibberish."
Lionel:Even though Michael generally uses the New Theology of Rahner and Ratzinger to interpret magisterial documents as a rupture with Tradition he affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
This is a common contradiction among CMTV, SSPX etc and so they are called extremists by the Left. They are told to read Vatican Council II interpreted with Cushingite philosophy, which really is not Catholic.
Instead of affirming Vatican Council II  in harmony with the dogma EENS Michael and the SSPX choose to be called extremists when it is they who can call the Left extremists and heretics, for denying Vatican Council II( F) and do not do so.
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He goes on to refer to gay-friendly clerics like Fr. James Martin, S.J., as "truthful, balanced and evangelical." He's referring to the same Fr. Martin whom this apostolate has highlighted for his public support of homosexual priests and who recently made headlines for his latest troubling remark online, where he said that there may be "gay saints in Heaven."

 
Examples of blogs for the NCR from Winters include the one in which he blasted the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for condemning the Supreme Court Obergefell v. Hodges decision legalizing so-called same-sex marriage, as well as a more recent blog where he asks if the pro-abortion D.C. Women's March "will become a movement," and laments the fact that organizers of the march didn't want pro-life groups participating.
Lionel: The National Catholic Reporter is a modernist, heretic media which denies the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II( Feeneyite). They support the same magisterial heresy spouted by the Vatican under political pressure.
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 He argues that the coalition will succeed only if it is more inclusive — omitting the more fundamental and important truth that to support abortion is evil in the first place.
Church Militant has previously reported on one of the many antics of the NCR in which it named two active homosexuals as its "persons of the year," whom they said provided a "faithful public witness as gay Catholics."
The first time NCR was publicly charged with error was in 1968, when Bp. Charles Helmsing, the fifth bishop of the diocese, said the following in his letter outlining the erroneous teachings coming out of NCR:
I have tried as their pastor, responsible for their eternal welfare and of those whom they influence, to guide them on a responsible course in harmony with Catholic teachings. When private conferences were of no avail, as is well known, I had to issue a public reprimand for their policy of crusading against the Church's teachings on the transmission of human life and against the Gospel values of sacred virginity and dedicated celibacy as taught by the Church.
Bishop Helmsing even made a point to clear up confusion among Catholics reading the letter, to provide an important distinction between erroneous understandings of editorial freedom versus the authentic Catholic understanding as taught by Vatican II.
At all times it was presumed that the policy of editorial freedom was none other than that legitimate liberty declared and defended by the Vatican Council II in its Declaration on Religious Liberty, further defined in the conciliar Decree on Social Communications, and, likewise, defended in the Constitution on the Church in the Modern World. It could not imply that pseudo-freedom from man's obligations to his Creator, Redeemer and Sanctifier in vogue under the standard of the 19th-century liberalism. It could not imply, as a conciliar declaration on religious liberty clearly states, freedom in the moral order.
The second time NCR came under fire from its local bishop was in 2013. Bishop William Finn, the immediate predecessor of the current bishop, James Johnston, Jr, wrote in a column the following about the NCR's continued disregard of Church teaching:
In a different way, I am sorry to say, my attention has been drawn once again to the National Catholic Reporter, a newspaper with headquarters in this diocese. I have received letters and other complaints about NCR from the beginning of my time here. In the last months, I have been deluged with emails and other correspondence from Catholics concerned about the editorial stances of the NCR: officially condemning Church teaching on the ordination of women, insistently undermining of Church teaching on artificial contraception and sexual morality in general, lionizing dissident theologies while rejecting established magisterial teaching and a litany of other issues.
Lionel: However like these bishops the National Catholic Register denies the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since they interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with Csushingism instead of Feeneyism and remain magisterial with heresy.These liberals have same doctrinal position as  Church Militant TV. For me, a Catholic lay man who interprets Vatican Council II with Feeneyism, Michael Voris is doctrinally as heretical as the National Catholic Register and Pope Benedict XVI.There is a rational and traditional choice before them but they all remain leftist on this issue, for whatever reason.
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If adherence to magisterial teaching is a meaningful definition of "authentically Catholic," an outfit like NCR, which has been told twice, by two separate bishops, 40 years removed from one another, to remove the word "Catholic" from its name, scarcely has two pennies to rub together, to borrow a phrase from Winters' piece.
Lionel: But what do  you do when the magisterium has made a theological mistake, when they violate the Principle of Non Contradiction when they also are at odds with the magisterium of the past ? Do you just support the heresy and apostasy ? This is being done by CMTV and NCR.
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For a piece that states in its headline that Church Militant is "not authentically Catholic," the article contains no reference to a magisterial document nor does Winters show specifically how Church Militant has denied magisterial teaching. The article contains zero references to the Catechism.
Lionel: Magisterial documents can be interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism.Cushingism is definitely 'not authentically Catholic'.CMTV is Cushingite.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church can be interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism and the conclusion would be different. Since the premise used in the interpretation would be different.
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Winters elsewhere in his article accuses this apostolate of undermining the authority of the Holy Father. We regularly receive emails and criticism for refusing to do exactly that.
The article contains no reference to a magisterial document nor does Winters show specifically how Church Militant has denied magisterial teaching.Tweet
Lionel: Winters is not in a position to show how Church Militant has denied magisterial teaching since he too like CMTV denies magisterial documents interpreted with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism. For example, the Syllabus of Errors is Feeneyite. It is contradicted by CMTV and the NCR.They both assume that there is salvation outside the Church.Since invisible- for- us baptism of desire, for example, would be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So with this new theology there is the foundation set for a new ecumenism etc.
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What Winters does offer in his piece is a description of his understanding of the nature and mission of the Catholic Church, which is at best vague and at worst a collection of poetic and hip-sounding platitudes aimed at his readers' emotions:
And the bishops need to consider how they can ensure that no one mistakes Church Militant for the authentic Church, which, day in and day out, cares for the poor, wrestles with the truth in humility, celebrates the sacraments and tries to build up the unity that arises from those sacraments and applies the medicine of mercy to a hurting world.
Lionel: Both the NCR and CMTV's concept of Mission is based on the New Theology, Cushingite theology.It is a break with Tradition, especially the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation( Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).It is a rupture with the old ecclesiology of the Church which has been eliminated with Pope Benedict's new theology which he made magisterial.He never corrected the error and CMTV and NCR have not informed him about it.
So when Pope Benedict in March 2016 said extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was for the missionaries of the 16th century neither CMTV or NCR corrected the objective heresy.Neither of them asked the emeritus pope to interpret the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation and Vatican Council II with Feeneyite theology. Then there would be no rupture with extra ecclesiam nulla salus was it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.
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In contrast, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC), referencing the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium (LG), describes the mission of the Church:
From this source, the Church, equipped with the gifts of its Founder and faithfully guarding His precepts of charity, humility and self-sacrifice, receives the mission to proclaim and to spread among all peoples the Kingdom of Christ and of God and to be, on earth, the initial budding forth of that Kingdom."
The CCC in section 767 also references the words of Our Lord in the Gospel of St. Matthew in its discussion of the Catholic Church's mission: "[T]he Church in her very nature is missionary, sent by Christ to all the nations to make disciples of them."
Lionel: Missionary according to Cushingite of Feeneyite theology? Cushingite theology is modernism.It is a heresy as widespread in the Church as during the Arian heresy.CMTV and NCR are Cushingites.
When the SSPX does not accept his Cushingite interpretation of Vatican Council II then CMTV wrongly says the SSPX is in schism.Instead they should ask the SSPX to accept Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and do the same.
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The Lepanto Institute has published a more complete list of the antics of the poorly named National Catholic Reporter, and Church Militant has likewise published a petition to the USCCB regarding the dissident newspaper.
Lionel: Presently the Lepanto Institute, CMTV and NCR interpret the Nicene Creed with Cushingism and this is first class heresy.It is also the first class heresy of the Vatican cardinals and popes and there is no correction from anybody.-Lionel Andrades
 

Ecclesia Dei ask the Bishops Conferences to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)

Image result for Photo of Guido PozzoEcclesia Dei must ask the bishops conferences to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) after clarifying that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism.I refer to the interpretations as Feeneyism and Cushingism.The SSPX and Ecclesia Dei can use other names.Instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) call it Vatican Council II (Pozzo) or Vatican Council II (Lefebvre).Call Vatican Council II ( Cushingite), Vatican Council II (Ratzinger), Vatican Council II (Marx) or Vatican Council II (Kasper).
Choose what you want to call it once you understand the principles.I call it Vatican Council II(F) in honour of the sacrifice of Leonard Feeney of Boston, faced with the magisterial heresy of the Archbishop, Richard Cushing and the pope and cardinals in Rome, during the pontificate of  Blessed Pius XII.
The old theology of Feeneyism for me, is based on invisible people not being visible and known in the present times.
The new theology of Cushingism is based on invisible people, people in Heaven, being visible and known in the present times e.g 2017.
The theology depends upon the premise.
Cushingism is a false theology since the premise is irrational.
The premise of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr.Leonard Feeney, was that invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance excluded the baptism of water and were visible- on- earth exceptions, to the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.
It's premise was that hypothetical cases of an unknown catechumen, who dies before receiving the baptism of water which he desired, was an objectively known exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
So in March 2016 Pope Benedict XVI confirmed this objective heresy in the daily Avvenire.He said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.There was a development of the dogma, he said, with Vatican Council II. He was heretically and irrationally referring to a Vatican Council II ( Cushingite).No one objected.No one said that a pope in manifest heresy could not be an emeritus pope.
This is the issue that the pontifical Ecclesia Dei and the Bishops Conferences must clarify.Can Vatican Council II be interpreted with Feeneyism and Cushingism and can the Bishops Conference and Ecclesia Dei choose Feeneyism?
The SSPX must also be clear in rejecting all this doctrinal ambiguity.They should sign a Doctrinal Preamble only affirming Vatican Council II(Pozzo/Lefebvre) and that too, only if the same is done first by Ecclesia Dei and the relevant Bishops Conference.-Lionel Andrades