CARDINAL GERHARD MULLER : MISTAKES HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES AS BEING EXPLICIT IN THE PRESENT TIMES.
Lionel: Cardinal Muller projects invisible cases
of being saved in invincible ignorance as being objective exceptions for the
dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This was also the mistake of the Council
Fathers ( 1965). So they could be suggesting here that only those who 'know'( about Jesus and the Catholic Church and its importance for salvation of all ) are on the way to Hell. But traditionally the Catholic Church has taught that
those 'who know' and non Catholics in general are oriented to Hell without
Catholic faith and the baptism of water. All need faith and baptism for salvation
states Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.Outside the Church there is no salvation ( CCC 846 etc). So the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 845,846), Vatican Council II ( Ad Gentes 7), the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27 other religions are not paths to salvation) and the Athanasius Creed ( all need to be Catholic for eternal life) etc are not contradicted by Lumen Gentium 14.
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I don’t know if you can blame this on the Council so much as the emergence of a theological trend that emphasized the possibility of salvation of non-Christians. But the Church has always affirmed this, and it has never denied it. …The Council did say there are elements of grace in other religions, and I don’t think that should be retracted. I’ve seen them, I know them — I’ve met Lutherans and Anglicans who are saints.' - Archbishop Augustine di Noia ( 07/01/2012 ), Archbishop Di Noia, Ecclesia Dei and the Society of St. Pius X, National Catholic Register.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/archbishop-dinoia-ecclesia-dei-and-the-society-of-st.-pius-x/#ixzz3Q1Vx3byR
Lionel: How can possibilities of salvation known only
to be God be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesia null salus? How
can he judge which non Catholic is not in mortal sin and will go to Heaven even
though he is not a Catholic?
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BISHOP BERNARD FELLAY ASSUMES THEORETICAL POSSIBILITIES KNOWN ONLY TO GOD ARE EXPLICIT IN THE PRESENT TIMES AND RELEVANT TO EENS
The same declaration (LG, 8) also recognizes the presence of “salvific elements” in non-Catholic Christian communities. The decree on ecumenism goes even further, adding that “the Spirit of Christ does not refrain from using these churches and communities as means of salvation, which derive their efficacy from the fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church.” (UR, 3)Such statements are irreconcilable with the dogma “No salvation outside of the Church, which was reaffirmed by a Letter of the Holy Office on August 8, 1949". -Bishop Bernard Fellay (April 13, 2014 ) Letter to Friends and Benefactors no. 82http://www.dici.org/en/documents/letter-to-friends-and-benefactors-no-82/
Lionel: Bishop Fellay too assumes hypothetical cases
are objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He has
accepted the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office which has confused invisible cases
of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being
visible exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, defined by three
Church Councils. None of these Councils mentioned any exceptions. Bishop Fellay
does not call attention to the mistake in the 1949 LOHO.- Lionel Andrades
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Lionel: Bishop Fellay too assumes hypothetical cases
are objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He has
accepted the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office which has confused invisible cases
of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being
visible exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, defined by three
Church Councils. None of these Councils mentioned any exceptions. Bishop Fellay
does not call attention to the mistake in the 1949 LOHO.- Lionel Andrades
Here are the controversial passages again
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/here-are-controversial-passages-again.html
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