Tuesday, January 31, 2012

REDEMPTORIST PRIEST SAYS WE DO NOT KNOW ANY CASE OF A PERSON SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE

Today morning I spoke with Fr.Giuseppe, an elderly Redemptorist priest in Rome and asked him if we can know of any case of a person saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance. He answered no.

Then I asked him if he knew  any one in invincible ignorance and who is saved. He did not know any such case, of course.

Then I mentioned the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and other magisterial texts which say everyone needs to enter the Church for salvation. I said there are no exceptions.

He remarked that a person though could be saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. I agreed with him that in principle we believe that this can be a possibility. I reminded him that he had just said that we do not know of any one saved with the baptism of desire etc. So how could they be exceptions?

Assuming this priest in the Redemptorist Church, where they have day time Eucharistic Adoration, said all Jews, Protestants and Orthodox Christians need to enter the Church for salvation.(See dogma Cantate Domino Council of Florence
http://catholicism.org/category/outside-the-church-there-is-no-salvation ). There could be protests against him by the Rabbi Ricardo Segni in Rome. Members of the ADL and B’nai Brit Italy could be phoning the Vatican offices. If this priest persisted with this official magisterial teaching there would be a campaign against him in the leftist daily newspapers in Italy. It is anti Semitism to be a faithful Catholic. There are hate laws which the Jewish Left can use against the Church.

So they control what is believed by a Catholic and which Church teaching can be  expressed by a priest.

The issue is not just being liberal or traditional it is following the law or giving offence created by the Jewish Left in Europe and abroad.-Lionel Andrades

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