Wednesday, June 6, 2012

CARDINAL RAYMOND BURKE AND THE FRANSCICAN FRIARS OF THE IMMACULATE ASSUME THAT THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS-SO DOES THE NEOCATECUMENATE WAY!

In an alleged Letter to the Vatican Secretary State the cardinal is critical of the New Catechumenate.Though the cardinal alongwith the Franscisan Friars of the Immaculate and the Neo Catecumenate are not willing to affirm the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

During the Neo Catecumenate Catechesis a boat is illustrated. The Catechist says that in the past it was thought that for salvation everyone needed to enter the boat. Now the Church does not teach this.I was present at this catechesis and as soon as I came to Rome I wrote to the leaders of the movement. I had a friend who was studying to be a priest at their seminary in Rome.

I don’t think anything was done since the Pope and the curia are not willing to affirm the dogma and they assume LG 16 is an exception to the dogma.

I spoke to priests and members of the movement in Rome and they still beleive that the Church does not say any more that every one needs to enter the boat for salvation.

They are in the same boat as Cardinal Raymond Burke and the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate when they offer the Traditional Latin Mass. They are not willing to affirm the dogma, the Nicene Creed (I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin) and Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14) and yet they offer Holy Mass.

To deny the Nicene Creed and a defined dogma is a mortal sin and definiteley an impediment in offering Holy Mass.It's first class heresy. Canon Law does not permit it.

There are some priests of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate who have the courage and honesty to say that the baptism of desire is only a possibility and not an exception to the literal interpretation of the dogma. Otherwise there is the same confusion as in the NeoCatechumenate Way.
-Lionel Andrades

1 comment:

George Brenner said...

Even the Baltimore Catechism places the possibilities for Baptism of Desire with humility to the judgement and mercy of God alone.

It reads in below that Baptism of Desire could occur only if it was "IMPOSSIBLE" to receive Baptism of Water. Impossible is a very strong emphatic word.



Q. 650. What is Baptism of desire?

A. Baptism of desire is an ardent wish to receive Baptism, and to do all that God has ordained for our salvation.

Q. 651. What is Baptism of blood?

A. Baptism of blood is the shedding of one's blood for the faith of Christ.

Q. 652. What is the baptism of blood most commonly called?

A. The baptism of blood is most commonly called martyrdom, and those who receive it are called martyrs. It is the death one patiently suffers from the enemies of our religion, rather than give up Catholic faith or virtue. We must not seek martyrdom, though we must endure it when it comes.

Q. 653. Is Baptism of desire or of blood sufficient to produce the effects of Baptism of water?

A. Baptism of desire or of blood is sufficient to produce the effects of the Baptism of water, if it is impossible to receive the Baptism of water.

Q. 654. How do we know that the baptism of desire or of blood will save us when it is impossible to receive the baptism of water?

A. We know that baptism of desire or of blood will save us when it is IMPOSSIBLE to receive the baptism of water, from Holy Scripture, which teaches that love of God and perfect contrition can secure the remission of sins ; and also that Our Lord promises salvation to those who lay down their life for His sake or for His teaching.

Q. 655. What do we promise in Baptism?

A. In Baptism we promise to renounce the devil, with all his works and pomps.